Beast Wars

[Benn]

Nor have I!

I have owned very few BW toys, actually.

[Shockprowl]

Whereas I... Have owned Tigerhawkguy.

[Llama God]

Apologies, I didn't check the board yesterday on account of not checking the board yesterday.

But Mr. Phil is quite right - I have never purchased a Tigerhawk. And indeed, never saw one in the shops here, so would have been unable to anyway, even if I'd wanted to. Which I did. (Whether I would have been allowed at the time though is a whole other question.) The only place I ever saw him on sale was in a small toyshop on the Greek island of Skiathos. Which was very random. I should've pounced then, but, for hinted reasons, didn't.

I actually own very little Beast Wars, on account of not having much spare money when the line was actually out. It was released during my university years, so most of my money went on that. But I've been slowly picking up a few more over the years; the 10th Anniversary sets helped to fill a lot of holes. Maybe one day I'll get around to owning a Tigerhawk. But for now I'm happy with my nice, fresh Tigatron...

[The Doctor]

I have owned very few BW toys and currently only have the Universe repaint of Primal. I like the BW media/characters a great deal but not a fan of the toys. The Primals were good and, er, can't think of any other good ones. Um, the bat/crocodile 2-packs. Um. Think that's it.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Did you not own Tigatron's repaint Razorclaw? I had some memory you did but might have been confusing it with the Grape Ape.

[Philip Ayres]

May 9, 2019 6:44:03 GMT Llama God said:

I actually own very little Beast Wars, on account of not having much spare money when the line was actually out.

Whereas I own most of it.....

I did own all of it, bar con exclusives, at one point. Flogged loads pre wedding, regretted and rebought as much as possible. Most of what remains absent will probably not get replaced thanks to rarity (Metals Ravage £££££) or fragility (BW Grimlock GPS :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( )

May 9, 2019 6:44:03 GMT Llama God said:

It was released during my university years, so most of my money went on that.

For me it was out during first real job: living at home, plenty of money, mobile to go and seek stuff out.....

To this day it's a favourite toy line. It's Japanese iterations, the first TF toys to be available in Japan when the internet made getting them possible, were fab - first filling in the gaps in the UK range, then some mad repaints and finally some brilliant new toys.

May 9, 2019 6:44:03 GMT Llama God said:

But I've been slowly picking up a few more over the years; the 10th Anniversary sets helped to fill a lot of holes. Maybe one day I'll get around to owning a Tigerhawk. But for now I'm happy with my nice, fresh Tigatron...

So what do you own? And indeed what has anyone else got?

[Dezzeh]

I used to own the full set of US/UK releases. minus recolours because that is a thing that still bothers me a little to this day (I like one of each mould, though obvs red haze..). I also had most of BWII. But alas, 19 year old me sold them all I'm now down to one small shelf. I shall dig up some images later as I am working from home today any way.

[Toph]

Oi, I wish Metals Jaguar hadn't been lost.
I remember Hasbro really wanted to release it as part of the 10th Anniversary line. It would have been the third figure in the third wave, with Primal and Megatron.
But they said the tooling was completely MIA.

I honestly think that might be the only BW mold worth rebuilding from scratch.

[Llama God]

Gods yes, I'd love a Metals Jaguar. If only I'd know about it closer the time. And had money. Bizarre that the tooling is missing though, given that there was a Botcon Tigatron that was a repaint of that mold. Unless they lost the mold at that time..?

As to what Beast Wars I *do* own, well...

Ultra Optimus Primal: 20th birthday present, my first, and it got me back into Transformers. And quite rightly, too.
- Airazor: Bought with some spare cash at the Beatties in the Gateshead Metrocentre.
- Transmetal Rhinox: A Valentine's present, back when it seemed things were good.
- Transmetal Megatron: 21st birthday present, from the same ex. Funny how things go.
- Transmetal Optimus Primal: Bought with birthday money.
- Quickstrike: Think that was the last TF my ex bought me, after realising she hated my hobby. We stuck together for four or five more years anyway.
- Rampage: Christmas present.
- Terrorgator: Bought on clearance in Woolworth's. Picked it because it looked great. And it is.
- Torca: Bought on clearance at Argos. Because it's ridiculous.
- Optimal Optimus: Bought when half-price at Toysaurus. Also contained the first episode of Season 3 on VHS, which was the only way to get it. And the only way that my ex allowed me to spend my money on it. No I don't have pent up issues, why're you asking?
- 10th Anniversary Cheetor: Picked up by my friends when they were on honeymoon. Good friends, clearly.
- 10th Anniversary Rattrap: Ditto.
- 10th Anniversary Rhinox: Ditto.
- 10th Anniversary Dinobot: Ditto.
- 10th Anniversary Tarantulus: Ditto.
- 10th Anniversary Waspinator: Ditto.
- 10th Anniversary Transmutate: Thanks to all of the above.
- Basics Optimus Primal and Megatron: From eBay, when I started to become properly completist.
- Orcanoch: From eBay, years later, when I started to become REALLY completist about my Optimii.
- Arachnid: Bought with Orcanoch, because why not?
- Tigatron: My final and most recent purchase, of just two weeks ago.

And I think that's it. I've got some Beast Machines figures too, and a Big Convoy. But yeah, as you can see, at the time itself I was only able to pick up a handful. I've made up for it in my collecting of other lines since... *looks at lounge floor and weeps*

[Philip Ayres]

May 9, 2019 9:46:51 GMT Llama God said:

Gods yes, I'd love a Metals Jaguar. If only I'd know about it closer the time. And had money. Bizarre that the tooling is missing though, given that there was a Botcon Tigatron that was a repaint of that mold. Unless they lost the mold at that time..?

Metals Ravage is the first toy I recall being boom, gone, silly money. Everything else BW Japan was easy to get, but the tail end of BW Metals..... Not so much. Ravage was an extra release - he doesn't have the standard C-D numbering IIRC......

When was Metals? Between Neo and Car Robots?

Really regret selling my Ravage.

[Toph]

It's kinda hard to say in hindsight when metals was. Because Neo started using the Spark Crystals that the Transmetal 2s used.
I think metals came between seasons three, and Beast Machines. Because BM and CR ran at the same time.

And there was quite a bit of time between Botcon Tigatron's release and BW10.

[Stomski]

Metals Ravage can't go for that much can it?

*goes to eBay*

Oooookay.

*goes to BW box in the garage*

Noooo, you must stay with me you beautiful bastard.

I know Phil sold me Japanese Tigatron and Beast Machines Deployer repaints... was it me that took your Ravage off your hands too?

[Philip Ayres]

May 9, 2019 10:58:24 GMT Toph said:

It's kinda hard to say in hindsight when metals was.

Metals was 1999 post Neo.

tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars:_Transformers_(cartoon)#Super_Robot_Lifeform_Transformers:_Beast_Wars_Metals

tfwiki.net/wiki/Japanese_ID_number_list#Beast_Wars

[Philip Ayres]

May 9, 2019 11:21:36 GMT Stomski said:

I know Phil sold me Japanese Tigatron and Beast Machines Deployer repaints... was it me that took your Ravage off your hands too?

May well have been!

[Philip Ayres]

May 9, 2019 10:58:24 GMT Toph said:

And there was quite a bit of time between Botcon Tigatron's release and BW10.

BC Tigatron is 2001 tfwiki.net/wiki/Tigatron#BotCon2001

BW 10th Anniversary was 2006 tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Beast_Wars_10th_Anniversary

[Toph]

And there was an armada retool there in between them.
So plenty of opportunity for the Ravage tools to get misplaced.

They may have been filed wrong because of Tigatron.

[The Doctor]

May 9, 2019 7:12:59 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Did you not own Tigatron's repaint Razorclaw? I had some memory you did but might have been confusing it with the Grape Ape.

No. I know the repaint you mean and like the madness of it but have not had it.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Confusion in my mind....

The molded faction symbol annoys me on the evil universe version!

[Toph]

The evil universe version was still a maximal in origin, though.

[Pinwig]

I can play this game!

Pinwig's BW collection (all original purchases):

1996

Ultra Optimus Primal
Polar Claw
Cheetor
Rhinox
Rattrap
Megatron
Scorponok
Tarantulas
Waspinator
Terrorsaur

1997

Ironhide (Magnaboss)
Prowl (Magnaboss)
Silverbolt (Magnaboss)
B'Boom
Bonecrusher
Ram Horn (Tripredacus)
Sea Clamp (Tripredacus)
Cicadacon (Tripredacus)
Inferno
Transquito
Jetstorm
Manterror
Retrax

Others

Silverbolt (Fuzor) (sealed)
Optimus Primal (Transmetal) (sealed)
Optimal Optimus (Transmetal)
Megatron (Transmetal) (sealed)
Megatron (Transmetal 2) (sealed)
BWII Megastorm

[Llama God]

May 9, 2019 12:05:32 GMT Toph said:

And there was an armada retool there in between them.
So plenty of opportunity for the Ravage tools to get misplaced.

They may have been filed wrong because of Tigatron.

Thanks for that, 3H...

Oh yeah, I also forgot to say that I also picked up Magnaboss at some point post The Dark Times. But now I have.

[Shockprowl]

Me now! Me now!

Optimus Primal
T-Rex Megatron
Inferno
Insecticon
Powerpinch
Razor crab guy
Drillbit
Iguanus
Purple Finback guy
Red Terrorsaur
Longrack
Razor East
Rattrap
Clawjaw
Turtle guy
Stegosaurus guy
Guiledart
Spittor

A Transmetal-type Ravage. I don't think it's the expensive one you're all talking about. Got cold Chrome on him.

Magnaboss

Magmatron

Grey Owl Prowl
Black Owl Prowl

The kids love 'em. We all play with them frequently.


I had double, triple, that at one point, but streamlined. All bought as an adult. Totally passed me by as a younger person. Didn't like them in fact. It was only when I joined The Hub that I saw The Light.


They're just darn good toys.

[Philip Ayres]

May 10, 2019 6:43:03 GMT Shockprowl said:

A Transmetal-type Ravage. I don't think it's the expensive one you're all talking about. Got cold Chrome on him.

Tripredicus Agent?

tfwiki.net/wiki/Ravage_(G1)/toys#TM2

If you ever want to move it on, then Lmk!

This is Metals Jaguar:

tfwiki.net/wiki/Ravage_(G1)/toys#Beast_Wars_Metals

[Shockprowl]

Yes Tripredacus Agent is my guy! Superb figure. He and the Owl Prowl's are the only Transmetaks I have, so they stand out and often have different origin stories to the others in games...

[Dezzeh]

Ok, dug my BW dudes off of the bottom shelf. Let's see here:

Optimal Optimus
Magnaboss
Tripredacus
Clear Convoy
Optimus Monkey Primal (animation colours version)
Lio Convoy
Galvatron
Big Convoy
Magmatron
Ultra Mammoth
Tigerhawk
TM Optimus
TM1 Megs
Tigatron (10th anni version)
Silverbolt
Stampy
TM Terrorsaur
TM Waspinator (big fave)
TM Airrazor
TM Scavenger
TM Cybershark
TM Cheetor
TM Tarantulas
TM2 Cheetor

I could use a few more it seems!

[Benn]

Beast Wars... I own

Rattrap
TM Tarantulas
TM Rattrap
A Japanese Optimus Primal that came witha DVD, maybe Robotmasters?
Um.
Generations Rattrap
Generations Rhinox
Generations Waspinator

I might have Razorbeast and Snarl somewhere. I know they have both been in my possession.

And that's it.

[Toph]

I don't own:

BW-
Rhinox
Tarantulas
Jetstorm
Lazorbeak
Retrax
Tripredacus Agent
Transmetal Rhinox (god that thing's ugly)
Metals Jaguar
Telemocha Volfang
Fox Kids TM Tarantulas
Fox Kids Cheetor
Fox Kids Dinobot
Fox Kids TM Airazor
Fox Kids TM Rhinox (still ugly)
UK Video Spittor
UK Video Clawjaw
US Video Airazor
US Video Razorclaw
Convobat
Megaligator
Black TM2 Prowl
White TM2 Dinobot

BWII (only listing things not identical to the US counterparts)
Drillnuts
Dirgegun
Diver
Ikard (grail)
Gimlet
Black Lio Jr
White Lio Jr
God Neptune
Autostinger
Autojetter
Autocrusher
Autolauncher
Gigastorm
Megastorm
Moon
Any LioConvoy variant

BWN-
Break (grail)
Bump
Survive
Guildart
Saberback
Crazybolt
Randy
Hardhead
Killer Punch
Ratorata
Elephorca
Drancron

This is my list of what I don't have, because it's shorter than listing what I do.

[Toph]

May 10, 2019 7:11:52 GMT Shockprowl said:

Yes Tripredacus Agent is my guy! Superb figure. He and the Owl Prowl's are the only Transmetaks I have, so they stand out and often have different origin stories to the others in games...

Wow, most people I talk to list the TM2 Cheetor mold as one of the worst toys ever made. (I don't think it's anywhere that bad, but neither is it my favorite)

[Philip Ayres]

I'm rather fond of it, TM2 Cheetor was one of the first toys I ever trans Atlantic traded for. I can see what they're trying to do here, with a distorted cheetor with robot parts bursting through.

[Philip Ayres]

May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT Toph said:

Transmetal Rhinox (god that thing's ugly)

I've never minded TM Rhinox. There's worse toys out there. Speaking of which ....

May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT Toph said:

Fox Kids TM Rhinox (still ugly)

An absolute car crash of a recolour. Several of the FK toys give it competition but this is probably the worst.

May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT Toph said:

UK Video Spittor
UK Video Clawjaw (both of these are on my holy grail list)

Do you want us to keep an eye out? I probably ought to find a pair for myself as I was he one that broke news of their existence to an unsuspecting world.

May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT Toph said:

Ikard (grail)

Toy-Fu gets at least one every year.

May 10, 2019 10:39:14 GMT Toph said:

Break (grail)

Has this got difficult to obtain?