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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 11, 2020 9:55:38 GMT
A new telling is the only way to go, though does present itself with problems, but I'd like this to do well. I'd also like to see IDW pull the finger out and give some of the other continuities some attention.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 11, 2020 10:02:52 GMT
Growing up as Transformers fans in the UK trained us well to be able to deal with two different versions of the same story - and this one should be easier, since they're not running concurrently.
Whilst the TV show can probably never be topped, that doesn't mean there's not room for a decent comic. I was remembering that when I first heard of the concept of Beast Wars I thought it was nonsense, and wasn't particularly interested. And then I saw the show, and it was good - and that's all that matters. It just has to be good.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 11, 2020 10:05:34 GMT
Is this actually an ongoing or mini? The press blurb is unclear.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 11, 2020 10:06:46 GMT
Oh I agree, but it's some of the more trenchant and vocal BW fans that come to mind. Whatever the flaws are of previous attempts at BW comics, almost all valid criticism was drowned out by the morons howling that it wasn't the show, and having seen how far online discourse has degraded since then...well I have concerns.
But I would kill for a post BM continuation - not immediately after but allowing for the dust to settle, because making them all technorganic in my mind introduces much shorter lifespans, and that would make for an interesting backdrop to tell tales.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 11, 2020 10:07:37 GMT
Is this actually an ongoing or mini? The press blurb is unclear. -Ralph I think like all comics now, it will be presented as an ongoing before being announced as a mini and cancelled at 12 issues or so. I don't want this, but it's my prediction. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 11, 2020 11:07:19 GMT
WHERE'S MY BIOCOMBAT VARIANT?
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Post by Toph on Oct 11, 2020 11:37:04 GMT
How I understood it, it starts as a couple one shots or something, then launches as a full ongoing.
I really like the idea following the basic plot, while doing things the show couldn't due to resources. Such as additional characters, and more complexity.
One of the issues though with BW, is that G1 has had so many reboots that they can get away with new takes on the characters. They can make Chromedome an ex-cop neuro surgeon or whatever. They can have Cyclonus be a grouchy old warrior in love with a peppy little Tailgate. They can make Bumblebee into a grim, hardened warrior who's seen everything. In fact, they need to because it's the last way they have to keep it fresh.
But BW doesn't have this. It's been a quarter century since this part of the franchise has been used in a meaningful way.
Terrorsaur still needs to look and act like Terrorsaur. Cheetor still needs to look and act like Cheetor.
It doesn't need to be the show, but it still largely needs to be the same set of characters we remember.
Which is why the inclusion of the batgirl excites me. New characters from the start allows for the new things that this reboot needs. If they keep the original show characters on point, new and previously toy only characters create an entirely new dynamic with them.
So long as they don't go overboard and have 100 characters running around like "The Gathering."
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 11, 2020 14:51:59 GMT
I just don't want a retread of the Vok and the whole we don't know it's Earth, Agenda et al. Keep the characters as we know them and do something different.
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Post by Toph on Oct 11, 2020 15:26:21 GMT
Agreed
I do hope the "we don't know this is earth" angle is dropped immediately if not very soon. (It wouldn't bother me if it's for a few issues while everyone's still disoriented).
Because the only reason that even existed was because the showrunners didn't know it was earth until they decided on it.
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Post by Kingoji on Oct 11, 2020 16:53:15 GMT
If Burnham has half the grasp on these characters as he does on the Ghostbusters, there's nothing to worry about there.
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Post by KnightBeat on Oct 11, 2020 18:56:46 GMT
But I would kill for a post BM continuation - not immediately after but allowing for the dust to settle, because making them all technorganic in my mind introduces much shorter lifespans, and that would make for an interesting backdrop to tell tales. Same here. Or even a re-imagined Beast Machines story that expands upon the original premise, without the budget constraints of late 90s/early 2000s CGI. I re-watched Beast Machines recently and was surprised how well it had aged. If you edited episodes to focus upon the core story arc, replaced the late 90s techno, and found a way to upscale everything, it could work as a low-budget Netflix mini-series today. Disclaimer: I've just finished watching the Netflix Siege series and my expectations for TF TV shows has dropped considerably. |
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Post by Kingoji on Oct 12, 2020 17:10:35 GMT
In celebration!  |
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Post by Benn on Oct 12, 2020 17:36:00 GMT
This is why I don't trust dentists
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 12, 2020 18:31:52 GMT
Which one is the dentist and which one is Ralph??
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 22, 2021 18:44:25 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 3, 2021 13:02:50 GMT
Issue 1 is out today.
Nice art and colours from Josh. Hard to judge the story just now as it's still in mostly familiar show territory, expanded a bit and focused on a few character dynamics - it feels like Beast Wars. The backmatter alludes to an Ultimate Comics approach being in people's minds and I would say this is a fair assessment.
Enjoyable and I'll stick around for a while longer.
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Post by Nigel on Feb 4, 2021 17:24:55 GMT
I enjoyed the first issue. The script was quite fun, and felt quite a fresh take on Beast Wars. I found it a nice contrast to the Transformers ongoing which, to me, started by retreading old ground, in a dreary fashion. I found the art quite fun, too, though Burcham does come across to me here as a poor man's Roche. As for the "Beast Wars 25 Years" emblazoned on the cover, I never can quite get my head around that!  Well, okay, 23 years in the UK - I still very clearly remember discovering and promptly buying Beast Wars in Woolworths in January 1998 while home from university - the Primal bat / Megatron crocodile set. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 7, 2021 12:26:45 GMT
I wouldn't say a poor man's Roche, his style has always been a more cartoony Geoff Senior and having worked with Nick for years, I dare say a few things have been absorbed.
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Post by Nigel on Feb 8, 2021 17:32:32 GMT
I can see your point, but it looks more Roche than Senior to me, especially the A cover, which I thought was Nick's when I first saw it in Previews. That said, Nick has himself said that he was influenced by Geoff Senior.
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Post by The Doctor on May 17, 2021 20:25:38 GMT
I have lost track of the new BW comic. Is there a trade on the horizon?
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 19, 2021 17:24:28 GMT
December 2021 for issues 1 to 6.
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Post by Nigel on Jan 24, 2022 20:14:40 GMT
I was catching up on my comics a few days ago and what do I find in the Beast Wars letter page? A missive from our very own Llama God! (I agree, I also feel old with all those "I remember Beast Wars as a kid" letters.)
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Post by KnightBeat on Jan 29, 2022 10:34:28 GMT
It's the end
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 14, 2022 22:50:24 GMT
First two trades and the annual in my holiday reading pile.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 3, 2022 12:04:08 GMT
...which I never got around to! Book 3 is now here!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 28, 2022 21:08:06 GMT
Read book 1 today. Hmmm. I really love the look of it but the story feels little more than a pointless retread of the show. Not sure what the point of it is and I was a bit bored. If I hadn't already bought volumes 2 and 3 I would have stopped there.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2022 13:00:10 GMT
Volume 2 read. It continues to look gorgeous but still feels pointless as a reboot. It isn't different enough though Skold is a good new character. Most of this could still fit within the original TV show though. Bit of a head-scrtacher. It's not bad, I just am struggling to see a defining reason why this is a reboot.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2022 14:39:52 GMT
And in volume 3...it just stops. Um. Er.
Well, yes, hmmmm.
Looks lovely though.
-Ralph
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Well, okay, 23 years in the UK - I still very clearly remember discovering and promptly buying Beast Wars in Woolworths in January 1998 while home from university - the Primal bat / Megatron crocodile set.