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RE: Timelines #1 Featuring Beast Wars.
Just noticed this is on this week's shipping list. IIRC this is the direct market edition of this years Botcon comic. Official TF convention comics usually give me the screaming heebies jeebies yet I know I will be unable to resist should I see it on a shelf.

Besides, anything is better than 'Reaching the Omega Point'.

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Old post 21/11/06 at 07:44 PM Reply #2
I pre-ordered this from Steve Bax when it was announced; I'm willing to give any new TF comic a fair chance. Except any of those rotton GIJOE crossovers.

Now remind me, what was the Reaching the Omega Point comic about again?


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Old post 21/11/06 at 09:30 PM Reply #4

This isn't the Constipation of the Spiders thread, Ralph.



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Old post 21/11/06 at 09:55 PM Reply #5
It should be.

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Old post 21/11/06 at 10:36 PM Reply #6
Constipation of the Shokaract.

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Old post 21/11/06 at 11:01 PM Reply #7
Reaching the Omega point was a mixed bag of text stories and comic strip see the Botcon Archive. I think Glen Hallit was directing it to the extent it went from mediocre fanfic to near-gibberish.

This years Botcon comic was okay, little ambigious on some details, but overall an okay Pre-Beast Wars story that crammed in this years Botcon toys. I'm buying the direct market edition as it has some extra content (profiles and the like).

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Old post 22/11/06 at 07:08 PM Reply #8

Read it now. It's a hell of a lot better than con comics of old in that it is actually readable without wanting to wash my brain out with soapy liquid. Fanwank is mostly confined to the last page. The characters voices are spot on albeit the story is nothing special and doesn't really add anything to Beast Wars as by halfway through it became apparent this was pretty much just an extended prologue to episode 1 rather than a full blown prequel as such. It's a competant read though, and certainly infinitely better than IDW's Beast Wars comic though I can't say I'm champing at the bit for a #2 further down the line.



As for extra content, well unless the story has been expanded, all there is up the back are 3 profiles, which are extremely banal and 3 sketches from one of the artists. In all honesty, if folk have the con edition, I wouldn't recommend splurging out for the direct market edition just for that. I think the cover may be new, it's rather mediocre though.



So, overall, it was ok but not an essential read.



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Old post 24/11/06 at 12:02 AM Reply #9

I've got a load of them in stock if anyone's after a copy. I have to say I rather liked the last page. Fanboy or otherwise from an art point of view its a good rendition of Razorclaw and Divebomb. I wonder how these two feel about the Decepticons nicking their Predacon name? As someone who's not particularly Beast Wars knowledgable can anyone explain why the bots and cons became Maximals and Predacons?



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Old post 24/11/06 at 05:37 PM Reply #10
It was... not too bad. From what I've read of the other repaint fanzine comics it was much better in all fairness.

It still felt like they were trying to cram a bit too many characters in, though (esp Tigatron, Airazor, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw). And were the in-shadow Maximal Council meant to be anyone we know?
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Old post 24/11/06 at 05:44 PM Reply #11
I picked this up yesterday and found it to be, in a word, cringeworthy. The storyline was going to be obvious from the get-go, but it seemed like the characters had turned into caricatures of themselves. Even I, slow as I usually am at these things, saw the final page "big reveal" coming a mile off. Oh, it was bad. Glad others seem to have enjoyed (or at least not hated) the book, though. I'm hesitant to say too much against it with a chap who's trying to sell them posting in the same thread

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Old post 24/11/06 at 06:02 PM Reply #12

LOL thanks Nick! I'm sure people will pick it up if they want to judge for themselves - or give it a wide berth if they are unsure. Worst case scenario they'll make a colourful doorstop.



Mind you I've shifted a dozen or so in the last 24 hours so somebody out there must like it. Can anyone answer my question - why is it that the bots and cons decided to rename themselves as Maximals and Predacons? Also where are the G1 cast pre-Beast Wars and is this Megatron the same character from G1? I've read elsewhere that Primal is not Optimus.



As you can see, I'm still a novice where Beast Wars is concerned.

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Old post 24/11/06 at 07:17 PM Reply #13
"Mind you I've shifted a dozen or so in the last 24 hours so somebody out there must like it. Can anyone answer my question - why is it that the bots and cons decided to rename themselves as Maximals and Predacons? "

The show never explained where the names Maximals and Predacons came from - leaving it very much an "open" issue. The way the show framed it, it was less a case of Autobots and Decepticons becoming Maximals and Predacons than Maximals and Predacons being "descended" from Autobot and Decepticon. My personal theory is that at some point in the process of technological and social evolution that led to the downsized characters of Beast Wars two splinter factions arose from within the Autobot and Decepticon ranks which out-competed the Autobots and Decepticons in evolutionary terms and eventually replaced them. But where those particular names arose from was never dwelt upon in the series.


"Also where are the G1 cast pre-Beast Wars"

With one exception (which is a spoiler for the end of S2) it is never addressed. Bob Forward and Larry Ditillo took the view that the era of the original Transformers iteration was one that had all but vanished into legend. They used the analogy that the original Optimus Prime and Megatron were to the Maximals and Predacons much like figures in Arthurian mythology are to us. (That's part of the reason that what we learn of the original "The Transformers" cast and events in Beast Wars doesn't completely fit with either comic or cartoon continuities - they took the decisions to treat those as versions of the legend, which might be at subtle variation with historical truth).

"is this Megatron the same character from G1? I've read elsewhere that Primal is not Optimus."

Neither of them are the same character. Although BW Megatron seems to have been inspired to take his name by the history of the original Megatron.

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Old post 24/11/06 at 10:03 PM Reply #14

Thanks for putting me in the picture Karl. I'm a bit sceptical about the theory of the Autobots and Decepticons being weeded out by an evolutionary process, because being cybernetic they would surely go on indefinitely replacing parts as they age, unless they meet a sticky end on the battlefield. As we know from the likes of Xarron (and numerous other characters who existed pre-Ark launch and are still around) they can go on for litterally millions of years. It seems a stretch to think they could disappear in a matter of centuries.



Your point about downsizing is an intriguing one. It brings to mind what McDonut was setting up in Micromasters, an evolution towards downsizing for the purposes of conserving dwindling energy stocks. Has TMUK addressed the phasing out of Autobots and Decepticons and replacing them with Maximals and Predacons?



Also I recall in the TF Universe/Wreckers books that G1 characters were present alongside the Beast Wars cast. Granted that a lot of them were kicking around because Unicron had transported them across time and space to fight in his arena, but they had the likes of Rodimus Prime and Trailbreaker along side Beast Wars cast. So I figured there were still bots and cons around in the BW era.

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Old post 24/11/06 at 10:12 PM Reply #15
TMUK has addressed the downsizing aspect in the excellent Telefunken by James Roberts which if memory serves me is available over at The Underbase.

I know the Transformers are a cybernetic race but the Autobots and Decepticons being supplanted by the Maximals and Predacons is quite a viable prospect. As technology marches on the components used in successive batches or generations of robots is going to become more and more advanced and the older Transformers wouldn't necessarily be compatible and the components they use would eventually become obsolete so no spares could be made and given time they would be outmoded and die out. The concept of circuitburn also comes into play when the brain modules are just so old they start to deteriorate and eventually burn out.

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Old post 24/11/06 at 10:15 PM Reply #16
"Also I recall in the TF Universe/Wreckers books that G1 characters were present alongside the Beast Wars cast. Granted that a lot of them were kicking around because Unicron had transported them across time and space to find in his arena, but they had the likes of Rodimus Prime and Trailbreaker along side Beast Wars cast. So I figured there were still bots and cons around in the BW era."

Fair enough. I can't recall whether I've actually read any of those to be honest, so my answer was confined strictly to the show itself. Clearly the secondary media has muddied the water somewhat.

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Old post 28/11/06 at 09:36 AM Reply #17
"Has TMUK addressed the phasing out of Autobots and Decepticons and replacing them with Maximals and Predacons?"

Kind of.

All four "races" (for want of a better term) exist at the same time, but obviously not harmoniously.

Someone get this man a copy of Martin's TMUK DVD!

By the way, I got that issue last week (thanks, Steve!) and to sum it up in one word: nuts. In two words? Really nuts.

I got as far as the Tigatron/Airazor "flirting" scenes and couldn't read any further. I imagined sparks flying (quite literally!) when those two started dry humping each other and so couldn't go on.



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Old post 28/11/06 at 10:42 AM Reply #18
My copy arrived this morning (cheers Steve) and I gotta say it was a bit of a turd. Art was decent enough in some places but the story was godawful.

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Old post 28/11/06 at 06:19 PM Reply #19

Martin's attempt to summarise the evolution of Maximals and Predacons in TMUK:



In 1994 (G2 #6) Megatron stole the Creation Matrix from Optimus Prime. In addition to creating the Rotor Force and Laser Rods, he experimented on captured Earth animals (including dinosaurs from the Savage Land), altering the DNA of some of them to grow them to a large size (normal TF size, not down-sized), and implanting new TF brains and transformation mechanisms in them. The experiments were a failure, the new Beast Warriors too wild, and they were blasted off into space. They were guided by an unknown force to the planet YaJurus, a strange world populated also by Earth animals, again some of them of unusually large size.



The Cybertronian Empire began to Cyberform the planet, but stopped and withdrew when the Beast Warriors transformed and attacked them. One of the Imperials, a rebel named Dorsal, was left behind and re-engineered himself as a Beast Warrior, now called Carchas. He shot down the other Imperial ships and used their crews to create several more new Beast Warriors (including Tripredacus). He also infected many YaJuran animals and changed them into Beast Warriors, and yet more Beast Warriors were born by Megatron's Beast Warriors inter-breeding with animals.



More than 300 years later, Star Saber's forces returned to YaJurus and found it populated entirely by these (normal TF size) Beast Warriors. All Megatron's original BWs were dead, if not killed, then through ageing. The only BWs who had not aged were Carchas and the few BWs who were originally Cyberformers as opposed to starting out as animals.



Carchas made a deal with Star Saber's generals to share all the science he had done on YaJurus in the intervening centuries in exchange for them supporting his continued use of the planet as his personal laboratory. He began by sending the Tripredacus three to Cybertron on his behalf, along with many preserved BW corpses, among them the original Optimus Primal, BW Megatron, Dinobot, Tarantulas and others.



Star Saber obtained Micromaster technology from the Autobots circa 2000, and had gone Micromaster mad, he really liked them. Before long he had combined Micromaster technology with Carchas's BW forms. In 2359 he Cyberformed the planet Earth and populated it with down-sized BWs very different in nature to those on YaJurus, most of whom believed it to be the real Cybertron, though a few such as the Tripredacus three knew the score. Some of the population were modelled on the deceased YaJuran BWs (among them, many of the crew of the Axalon and Darkside).



The real Cybertron started being overrun by BWs when a few of the ones from Earth with special powers (Shokaract, Cataclysm and Antagony) turned up there in the year 2388. Over the following centuries, the Autobots and Decepticons either died, departed into deep space or retired to J'nwan, so that in the early 32nd Century only Swoop remained.



I wouldn't say BWs were more advanced than Autobots and Decepticons, just different. Autobots and Decepticons are superior in many ways: they have full design control when re-engineering their bodies, rather than relying on the whims of re-formatting processes, and they can all operate underwater. On the other hand, their self-healing abilities are more limited.



Whew! That'll do for now. Fill in the gaps, will you, Graham?



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Old post 28/11/06 at 08:14 PM Reply #20

Bravo Martin, that is impressive and very informative.



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Old post 28/11/06 at 11:05 PM Reply #21

I whole heartedly agree. Thanks for doing that Martin. My next question is how can I get hold of one of these CDs Graham mentioned?

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Old post 29/11/06 at 07:23 AM Reply #22

I distributed about twenty of the most recent comprehensive DVD editions free a few weeks back in the hope that they would gradually spread of their own accord through TMUK by osmosis. Read this thread for details.



I'll give it another few weeks and then see if I need to do a second run.



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It's alright Martin, I've spoken to Steve and will have a shiny copy heading his way soon enough.

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Old post 29/11/06 at 12:42 PM Reply #24

Returning to the comic in question... I thought it was ok, the art gets better as it goes along (why does anyone give Dan Khanna money to draw strips these days?!), dialogue is ok, and the oft-commented-on last page does rather make you slap your forehead in disbelief. So yeah, cheesy and average, better than previous Botcon efforts. I had another look at the Wreckers comic on-line, damn near made my eyes bleed.

However it pales in comparison with some of the stuff IDW have put out lately - isn't it time we gave Spotlight: Shockwave a medal for being the best thing, like, ever?
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It's alright Martin, I've spoken to Steve and will have a shiny copy heading his way soon enough.

Cheers, Andy. I feel guilty for being such a lazy sod, nobody else relies on goodwill to photocopy and pass on their fanzines. Still, so long as the burden on each individual kind person is relatively small I can live with my guilt.



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Returning to the comic in question... I thought it was ok, the art gets better as it goes along (why does anyone give Dan Khanna money to draw strips these days?!), dialogue is ok, and the oft-commented-on last page does rather make you slap your forehead in disbelief. So yeah, cheesy and average, better than previous Botcon efforts. I had another look at the Wreckers comic on-line, damn near made my eyes bleed.

However it pales in comparison with some of the stuff IDW have put out lately - isn't it time we gave Spotlight: Shockwave a medal for being the best thing, like, ever?


The biggest problem the comic had (apart from a pretty banal story) was the shifting in not only the art but the colouring. The inker on the first page needed to be introduced to a ruler. Never been that big a fan of Khanna's work, it's usually competent but pretty lifeless. The next inker picks up the pace a little bit and then we get onto some much better art from Marcelo Matere.

The shift in colouring is pretty noticeable as well, from pretty flat colouring to an approach similar to the DW era. I always find that pretty jarring when reading a comic. The colouring and lettering should be constant throughout (unless the story calls for some effect that can only be achieved by changing them) in order to keep the feel of a story.

The issue is much better than most of the official con comics I've read so far (didn't read last year's) but so far behind what we are getting with IDW it's not even funny.

A medal for Spotlight Shockwave? Nah - a national holiday would be much more fitting!

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It's alright Martin, I've spoken to Steve and will have a shiny copy heading his way soon enough.

Cheers, Andy. I feel guilty for being such a lazy sod, nobody else relies on goodwill to photocopy and pass on their fanzines. Still, so long as the burden on each individual kind person is relatively small I can live with my guilt.



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Old post 30/11/06 at 06:23 PM Reply #28

Well then, I'll try doodling some pics suitable for your Ultimate Guide project at the weekend. One Quintesson Overlord wearing Godbomber armour and toy-mode Ironhide/Ratchet action scene coming up.



Come to think of it, the TMUK BW summary above is half-way to being a decent text item.



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Old post 29/04/07 at 11:37 PM Reply #29
I went on a whirlwind tour of the midlands yesterday, and spent a few hours in Derby. Derby is a wonderful place, filled with all kinds of cheap nik-naks. There's a market stall (which had annoyingly closed early) that sells 2-4 month old magazines for just £1 each. It also has a fantastic Forbidden Planet shop (most likely a Another World store in a past life) that operates on the notion that people will buy something if you sell it at a semi-reasonable price. They were selling Classics Ramjet for an acceptable £11.99, Masterpiece Prime with voice box for £50 and Japanese Micromaster trains for £1.99 each. However, the real reason that I'm posting this here and not in the toy forum is that they were also selling IDW's Transformers Cybertron paperback for £6.50.

The Cybertron 'Balancing Act' paperback contains a complete collection of stories printed in the 2005-06 convention comics. The story revolves around Sentinel Maximus with appearances from non-show characters, such as Ramjet, Nemesis Prime (Big Convoy repaint), Dark Scorponok and Tank Unicron. There are also appearances from the convention exclusive combiners, though they don't do much. The plot is pure fanwank, combining characters from multiple continuities in EXCITING!! and EXPLOSIVE!! situations, that make little sense. It requires extensive understanding of the Cybertron series, as well as a passing familiarity with cartoon G1, Beast Wars, RiD and the DW Armada storyline. Anyone familiar with the Revenge of the Sith movie may also recognise certain events. The dialogue is equally convulted. In the short space allocated to each character, the plot is often set aside for winding monologues on the nature of evil, that set aside subtle development in favour of hitting character traits with a very large hammer. Unicron receives another upgrade to his abilities, being presented as a mechanistic satan who is responsible for the evil thoughts and actions of every species in the universe. However, the dialogue is generally true to the character and contains some nice touches. RiD Optimus Prime and Magnus, in particular introduce some much needed humour, yet avoids the pitfall of descending into slapstick.
The pencils and colouring are well done, containing an amazing level of detail in every panel. Prepare for action scenes containing multiple explosions. IDW's colour cartridges must have been replaced several times, as a result of the overuse of orange and yellow. However, the limited scripting often made it difficult to understand a scene. I found myself reading the dialogue, then looking at the image to try to understand its purpose.

Overall, it's great to see another TF continuity in print and it was worth the £6.50 that I paid for it. However, anyone expecting a coherent plot structure will be extremely disappointed.
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Overall, it's great to see another TF continuity in print and it was worth the £6.50 that I paid for it. However, anyone expecting a coherent plot structure will be extremely disappointed.

You got a great price there regardless of the story quality. Diamond's wholesale price is £6.50 and that's before the store factors in any delivery costs and mark-up.

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IIRC the US price is $10, so I wouldn't really expect it to be sold for much more than £6.50 over here, unless some strange £1=$1 system is in operation.

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Old post 30/04/07 at 09:36 PM Reply #32
Yah, the retail price is £6.50, not the wholesale price. That depends on how much money you give Diamond.
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Old post 30/04/07 at 10:15 PM Reply #33
That was my assumption, how wrong I was. I figured it would be £5 from Diamond and I could sell on my website at £7 with postage, packaging and paypal fees included among that. Having put it for sale at that price I found out Diamond wanted £6.50 a comic.

It's the same story with TPBs which I also find have a extraordinarily high wholesale cost. The choice for the retailer is either shave the profit margin to nothingness or order less copies (as you know you're not likely to sell many). Cheaper prices = more sales, but the likes of Diamond don't get it.

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Yah, the retail price is £6.50, not the wholesale price. That depends on how much money you give Diamond.

No, the wholesale price is £6.50 from Diamond. I should know, I paid it.

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Old post 01/05/07 at 09:18 AM Reply #35
It's purple prose of the highest order. The art is not too bad, although there are stories with two inkers with distinct styles and it doesn't gel at all. Colouring is pretty decent especially the issues done by Espen Grundetjern. Lettering is pretty much amateur hour and fonts change from chapter to chapter as does the style of balloons.

As Gareth said if you didn't know much about Cybertron and RID and the previous convention comics you'd be a little stuck. RID Magnus and Prime have the most enjoyable scenes in the entire book. Vector Prime and Ramjet both reek of Sunstorm. Skyfall is entirely surplus to the story requirements and need not have even been included.

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It also has a fantastic Forbidden Planet shop (most likely a Another World store in a past life) that operates on the notion that people will buy something if you sell it at a semi-reasonable price. They were selling Classics Ramjet for an acceptable £11.99, Masterpiece Prime with voice box for £50 and Japanese Micromaster trains for £1.99 each.

It did indeed used to be Another World, although I'm struggling to recall if it was ever that in it's current location. As I type I'm thinking it was rebranded maybe six months prior to the move. In any case following it becoming a Forbidden Planet, it lost the fantastic Video Game imports, but kept most of everything else that made it so great. I've grabbed some pretty good bargins from there myself and I'm always sure to check it out. Unlike the one in Hanley, which when I was growing up--and it was actual FANTASY World back then--I thought was the best shop ever. Following the change it is now just rubbish, with little choice at high prices.
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Old post 01/05/07 at 10:53 AM Reply #37

Apparently Skyfall/Landquake had been supposed to be the focus of the story, but vague hints to an obscure origin (wow - rare for a fanclub toy that!) have been hinted. It was suggested the next storyline will be more focused on them, but given the classics dimension I wouldn't advise any holding of breath.
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No, the wholesale price is £6.50 from Diamond. I should know, I paid it.

That's not what we paid, I think, shall check it tomorrow. The discount you get from Diamond depends on how much money you spend with them, but it shouldn't be 0% on IDW stuff.
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Old post 01/05/07 at 10:33 PM Reply #39
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Unlike the one in Hanley, which when I was growing up--and it was actual FANTASY World back then--I thought was the best shop ever. Following the change it is now just rubbish, with little choice at high prices.


Arrghhh!! Don't get me started on the Hanley store. I spent hours in there when they were located towards the rear of the Hanley shopping arcade, browsing the Megadrive games and comics. The shop was tiny, dark and gloomy, but I loved it. They moved it into a bigger store around the corner, when the shopping arcade was marked for rennovation, and for a time it was fantastic. However, I went in there before Christmas and was shocked that I couldn't buy any TF comics. The guy behind the counter claimed they only received 6 issues of each TF comic and often sold them all in less than an hour. Ridiculous!

I visited FP London during my lunch break today and noticed they are also selling the Cybertron book for £6.50. I guess the price is standard across all of their stores.
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Old post 02/05/07 at 07:39 AM Reply #40
I re-read TF Timelines 'Dawn of Future's Past' last night (what does that mean, exactly?). It was ok on the first read but doesn't really stand up to re-reading, does it?

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Old post 02/05/07 at 08:45 AM Reply #41
I enjoyed some of the larger, clearer panels of artwork of "Balancing Act". I also enjoyed some of the colouring.

I did not enjoy the script or dialogue. It was wooden, overly loquacious and... and... damn, I need to borrow the writer's well-thumbed thesaurus, I seem to have lost my perspicacity*!

I can't comment on the characterisation because there was none apparent to me.

I did not understand the story at all.

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Old post 02/05/07 at 02:26 PM Reply #42

It was Ok but prose was indeed indigo - "boot of justice" came from nowhere I think

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Old post 02/05/07 at 02:35 PM Reply #43
I thought "Boot of Justice" was the best line in the entire book.
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Old post 05/06/07 at 12:28 AM Reply #45
Watching Ralph read that trade - bloody hilarious!!

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Old post 05/06/07 at 07:56 AM Reply #47
Wasn't it to your tastes, Ralph?

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Old post 05/06/07 at 10:52 AM Reply #48
It took him two attempts to read it through the first time and he tried to do it a second time.

Great stuff!

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Old post 05/06/07 at 04:39 PM Reply #49
It's absolute horseshit. The only thing that saves it from being interred within the Hall of Infamy that includes 'Reaching the Omega Point' and 'Micromasters' is that it has better art.

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Old post 05/06/07 at 08:28 PM Reply #50
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It took him two attempts to read it through the first time and he tried to do it a second time.


I managed one read through it, and I was grimacing in pain for most of that. It has been a long, long time since I have encountered storytelling that poor or dialogue quite that painful.

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It does have one astounding feature though: it allows the reader to travel back through time. I felt like it was 2003 and I was reading a Dreamwave comic.

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Old post 06/06/07 at 08:18 AM Reply #52
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It's absolute horseshit.


Now this is the kind of quote I would like to see on a DVD cover or the back of a TPB.

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Old post 06/06/07 at 07:35 PM Reply #53
I am available for hire. My hourly rates are good value. Just ask Andu.

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Old post 08/07/07 at 08:48 PM Reply #54
I read Timelines #2 (aka this year's Botcon comic) earlier, courtesy of our very own scots Nick.

It...it...there are no words.

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Old post 08/07/07 at 10:05 PM Reply #55

I don't believe you. I bet there's a whole host of four-letter ones.
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Old post 08/07/07 at 10:12 PM Reply #56
And you gave me a pound for it! Mwahahahahahaha!

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Old post 09/07/07 at 07:35 AM Reply #57
You evil swine!

I thought you had given up your comic too easily!

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Old post 09/07/07 at 11:08 AM Reply #58
There's a sucker born everyday! Nick, now that you are free of it perhaps you could describe the contents/horror?
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Old post 09/07/07 at 11:56 AM Reply #59
All of a sudden, I REALLY want to read this horror.
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Old post 09/07/07 at 12:07 PM Reply #60

I may speak for us all in wanting to know more about this comic, with a full plot description and full graphic detail of what Ralph thinks of each & every page.
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Old post 09/07/07 at 12:12 PM Reply #61
I seem to have wiped it from my mind. I think the premise was 'what if someone who had only seen the cartoon and only knew its characters tried to write Marvel issue #81'. I remember Grimlock could fly and Elita-one was suddenly a ninja. And, you know, existed. Also Ultra Magnus and Springer spontaneously forgot they had both spent years on Earth and acted like they had never been there before. The most interesting bit was when the Gobot showed up. Seriously.

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Old post 09/07/07 at 12:33 PM Reply #62
I knew it was going to be shit from the previews I know I am going to hate it when I read Ralph's copy on Friday but I know when it comes out I will end up buying it.

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Old post 09/07/07 at 01:29 PM Reply #63
I'm not letting anyone read it on Friday before having at least 3 pints of booze first.

I read it sober. Sober! Oh, the tears.

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Old post 13/07/07 at 02:14 AM Reply #64
I made Andu read it. Ah ha ha!

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We wait for Andy's reaction with baited breath!

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The thread title's a bit long now isn't it? Maybe we should just rename it Fun Publication's Thread of Horrors.
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Old post 13/07/07 at 09:43 PM Reply #67
It's the biggest piece of shite I have ever read in comic form. Lip service at best to it's comic origins by a lazy bastard writer who cannot be even arsed to do even the most cursory of research.

FUCKING WANK!!

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Old post 13/07/07 at 10:09 PM Reply #68
Dammit! Now I need to track down a copy to see for myself!

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Old post 13/07/07 at 10:26 PM Reply #69
Don't. It's the absolute worst TF comic EVER. I was near apoplectic with rage at the fucking weak-ass lazy fucking story and the art deteriorated with each passing page.

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Old post 13/07/07 at 10:39 PM Reply #70
It is extremely poor. The art, as Andy says, gets worse by the page. The staging of the battle scenes varies between inept and downright unintelligble. The plotting is... well, is there a verb that conveys a sense of less than loose? And the dialogue is downright horrible - to the extent that there is a moment where a missing explanation point means that a speech bubble conveys a completely different tone that that which I think was intended. (Punctuation - it matters, it really does).

I am fortunate that there was someone available to explain what appear to be significant plot points, because the actual comic is less than interested in doing so.

Not the worst thing I have ever read, but far and away from anything I would recommend anyone else read.

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The thread title's a bit long now isn't it? Maybe we should just rename it Fun Publication's Thread of Horrors.


Done!

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Old post 14/07/07 at 04:06 PM Reply #72
This comic was a true marvel. The art gripped me from start to finish. Never before has the sheer experience of gazing upon such art made me want to cry pure tears of frustration that it was not twice as long. This combined with the astounding leaps of logic and extremely subtle plotting of the storyline alongside dialogue I could never match lead me to whole-heartedly recommended this comic for recylcing.
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Old post 14/07/07 at 04:19 PM Reply #73
My favourite bit is when the writer realised he'd run out of pages so they all went home for tea. Well except for Bugbite, he had no home to go to and felt very sad behind is happy smiling face.

Briliant!

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I'm still puzzled by how Dreadwind was able to see an invisible Mirage!
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I'm more puzzled by the slim possibilty that 'Forest Lee' is a real person and not a pen-name.

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With each post, this comic seems more and more intriguing to me. I must check it out.

How much should I drink?
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As much as you can possibly take. And beyond!

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It's the biggest piece of shite I have ever read in comic form. Lip service at best to it's comic origins by a lazy bastard writer who cannot be even arsed to do even the most cursory of research.

FUCKING WANK!!

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:30 AM Reply #79
Right. Let's get on with the eviscerating of this rag of shite.

Kicking off with the start, they seem to be going with Marvel US continuity and avoiding the UK stories altogether as Springer and Magnus have never been to earth before. Huffer is present on their ship as it heads to earth. Now his last appearance was when he was killed by Starscream during The Underbase saga and was in a life support pod in the Ark which crashed in NORTHERN CANADA. Snarl is on the ship and still in his Action Master mode (see how they totally get the comic continuity)

We get to Earth and the current Autobot base called Autobase there is an offhand reference to Barnett (Walter Barnett of I.I.I. fame)see how they totally get the comic continuity). We then see Prime in classics mode (no mention of his Nucleon enhanced action master form, the same with Grimlock). Jetfire is on earth in his classics mode (along with Huffer his last appearance was when he was killed by Starscream during The Underbase saga and was in a life support pod in the Ark which crashed in NORTHERN CANADA.) no explanation of how and why.

We then see Mirage in his classics form with no explanation of how (since his last his last appearance was when he was killed by Starscream during The Underbase saga and was in a life support pod in the Ark which crashed in NORTHERN CANADA).

I do hope you are spotting a theme here kids.

Grimlock flies off and Mirage follows him (as we all know all the Autobots in the comic can fly.

Cut to Starscream now in his classics mode in a scene with Bugbite, Weirdwolf, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Dreadwind, Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust. Now Starscream is as was said in his classics mode. Now his last apperance was in his normal mode and he was in the Ark when it crashlanded in NORTHERN CANADA. No explantion or hint as to how he survived and what happened to his form, after all he was splashed with Nucleon when Ratchet caused him to hit the Nucleon pump. As you can see Forest Lee is knee deep in the rich and diverse story heritage of the Marvel comic run. Oh and Grimlock ripped off the arms of Dreadwind's nebulan Hi-Test because we all know in the comics Optimus Prime would have let that happen without any repercussions don't we.

Cue some interminable bollocks about Bugbite and co, being part of Bludgeon's group and they are looking to see Megatron. Cut to The Ark. Not a complete write off but embedded in a mountain much like it was in the Transformers animated show. Now excuse me for a moment while I go into a bit of a rant here.

NOW WHAT IS THE FUCKING DEAL WITH THIS. It's not like there is any bloody ambiguity about the Ark's destination it lay partially submerged in a snowdrift missing massive chunks of it due to it's crash and the explosion that took out two of it's engines. Now if the pictures weren't enough there was a text box that explicitly states NORTHERN CANADA. If you are going to do something following on from the comics it helps to actually read the fucking things.

Anyway in the Ark - Megatron now in classics mode is sitting on a throne and in the background in one panel is the prone form of Ratchet. Savour it as he never appears again and he looks in much better condition than he did during his final appearance in US#78. Now comes the only good bit of the comic, Megatron has Shockwave's severed head wired up and uses him to give him some tactical assistance.

The story moves along with Bugbite using cerebro shells to control the jets in order to get to Megatron while the Autobots - Grimlock, Magnus, Huffer, Aleeta One, Springer and Snarl move to attack Megatron's base to get Bugbite and co. Complete clusterfuck ensues Autobots win and bug outm Bugbite is killed by megatron after revealing he is from a parallel universe and that events in this one caused the deaths of millions on his. He is going to kill the Decepticons and the Autobots and take materials back to rebuild his. But then Megatron kills him.

Issue ends with Magnus and co. heading back into space to take care of Bludgeon's crew.

All in all a fantastic pile of shite that is without a doubt the single worst issue of a Transformers comic ever from anyone.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:37 AM Reply #80
Dammit now you've made me want to reread it.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:40 AM Reply #81
Step away from the comic book. Our staff will be on hand shortly to sanitize the item and to carry out mandatory post traumatic stress counciling.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:44 AM Reply #82
Yeah, but I'm still not clear what you really thought of this comic.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:46 AM Reply #83
Don't make me angry Ralph or every fictionary drawing I do from now on will be Longtooth.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 11:49 AM Reply #84
It is not I who make you angry. It is you, torturing yourself with memories of the Timelines #2 comic. Don't buy the diamond direct market release. Just say no!

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Old post 16/07/07 at 12:00 PM Reply #85
Now I MUST read this comic!!!!

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For the love of God, no! Hang on, I shall get my copy out and reproduce some dialogue to stop you!

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Old post 16/07/07 at 12:04 PM Reply #87
Don't do it Ralph! Spare them!
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Old post 16/07/07 at 12:07 PM Reply #88
Ultra Magnus: "So this is Earth. Never thought I'd see it in real life. All that uneven terrain must be a beast to maneuver in."

Springer: "Well, Grimlock's there. It'll be good to see old tall, violent and scary."

Dreadwind: "Hi-Test hated me more than anyone. He let Grimlock tear his arms off just so he wouldn't have to be binary bonded to me anymore."

And I'm only on the third page.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 12:07 PM Reply #89
So, a US comic continuation by someone who never read them.

What I like about the Botcon fiction is the effort they put in...
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Ultra Magnus: "So this is Earth. Never thought I'd see it in real life. All that uneven terrain must be a beast to maneuver in."


Doesn't this version of Earth have any roads?

Ralph, I need more dialogue!!

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Don't worry! The locals "have paved and graded" a lot of it.
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Old post 16/07/07 at 02:29 PM Reply #92
They could and should have just made this an alternate season 3. And by could and should I mean it is and it just needs renaming.

As a writer if your gonna come along and jettison that many events you have to produce something worthwhile.

I do like Dreadwind in it........ sorry

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Ultra Magnus: "So this is Earth. Never thought I'd see it in real life. All that uneven terrain must be a beast to maneuver in."


Doesn't this version of Earth have any roads?

Ralph, I need more dialogue!!


Because you demanded it! :

Ultra Magnus (onboard Autobot ship): "Tyrannitron is still onboard somewhere. Huffer, since you volunteered to stay here, don't let him eat anything important. And watch their ship. If it so much as twitches in the direction of hyperspace, you blow in into as many pieces as you can."

Dreadwind (to other jets and Bug-Bite): "I knew I shouldn't have left Darkwing behind. At least he sort of likes me. Not like you jerks."

Weirdwolf: "Who hisses and spits, some kind of door snake?"

Weirdwolf: "For Decepticon bait, we wait and wait."

Weirdwolf: "Smell something there I do. Perhaps the oil of an Autobot or two?"

Elita-1: "Mimetic alloys in my skin help me fade into the background. HAH!"

Elita-1: "My teacher could dissassemble an alloygator with one strike."

Elita-1: "Remember the colour change skin?"
Ravage: "Aagh!"
Elita-1: "It can take on other properties to*. For instance, reflecting and even enhancing a simple laser to dazzle your night-adapted optics. Night, night, kitty."

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Old post 16/07/07 at 06:40 PM Reply #94
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Huffer is present on their ship as it heads to earth. Now his last appearance was when he was killed by Starscream during The Underbase saga and was in a life support pod in the Ark which crashed in NORTHERN CANADA.

We then see Mirage in his classics form with no explanation of how (since his last his last appearance was when he was killed by Starscream during The Underbase saga and was in a life support pod in the Ark which crashed in NORTHERN CANADA).


To be be fair (and a bit pedantic) those aren't really faults. Huffer's last appearance was in 'Totalled!' amongst the crowd of Autobots watching Blaster and Grimlock's battle, and whilst Mirage appears in the Underbase saga he wasn't shown to be deactivated by Starscream. He was blown to bits by Octane during the battle with the Decepticons in the Arctic. Later someone who looks a bit like Mirage (though thanks to the nightmare combination of Delbo's art and Yomtov's colouring it is very unclear if it is or not) can be seen transforming behind Hoist on the Brooklyn Bridge, though whoever it is isn't shown to be deactivated, and since Ratchet was on the bridge and escaped unscathed that 'Bot could have too.



Neither Autobot was one of Starscream's confirmed kills, and although they were both probably dead at the time both Huffer and Mirage (and for that matter Jetfire) could have been amongst those reactivated by the Nucleon since we were never given a complete list of those who Grimlock revived. A few Autobots (eg Hound) who were deactived during the Underbase saga and not shown amongst those Grimlock revived at the end of G1 showed up in G2, showing that we didn’t see everyone who got revived by the nucleon. Their bodies weren’t necessarily still onboard the Ark, in fact the only two Transformers confirmed to still be in life pods after Shockwave stole the Ark were Ratchet and Megatron. If G2 can get away with including characters like Mirage Classics should be able to as well.



Still, if offered a choice of reading the Classics comic or being punched in the face, I’d opt for the punch. Convention comics give me the chills *shudders*


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Old post 16/07/07 at 06:49 PM Reply #95
I think my comments in person to those attending Botcon on this speak volumes about the standard of the writing. Its just wince-inducingly bad.

Unfortunately the fanclub magazine is by the same writer (apparently its not a pen-name). Its pretty bad and astoundingly silly to shoe-horn into any Marvel continuity.
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Old post 16/07/07 at 07:07 PM Reply #96
When fans go to Botcon they expect to leave with a souvenir to remind them of the day.

Do they do T-shirts there by any chance that says 'I went to Botcon 2007'?

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Old post 16/07/07 at 07:20 PM Reply #97
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Still, if offered a choice of reading the Classics comic or being punched in the face, I’d opt for the punch. Convention comics give me the chills *shudders*



After reading the dialogue as transcribed by Ralph, I just punched myself in the face.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 07:47 PM Reply #98
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Ultra Magnus (onboard Autobot ship): "Tyrannitron is still onboard somewhere. Huffer, since you volunteered to stay here, don't let him eat anything important. And watch their ship. If it so much as twitches in the direction of hyperspace, you blow in into as many pieces as you can."

Dreadwind (to other jets and Bug-Bite): "I knew I shouldn't have left Darkwing behind. At least he sort of likes me. Not like you jerks."

Weirdwolf: "Who hisses and spits, some kind of door snake?"

Weirdwolf: "For Decepticon bait, we wait and wait."

Weirdwolf: "Smell something there I do. Perhaps the oil of an Autobot or two?"

Elita-1: "Mimetic alloys in my skin help me fade into the background. HAH!"

Elita-1: "My teacher could dissassemble an alloygator with one strike."

Elita-1: "Remember the colour change skin?"
Ravage: "Aagh!"
Elita-1: "It can take on other properties to*. For instance, reflecting and even enhancing a simple laser to dazzle your night-adapted optics. Night, night, kitty."

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Arggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! No more! Make it stop!!! Please!!!

The worst thing is after finding this all very amusing the other day, I went and ordered myself a copy. Ahhhhh what have I done?
arghghhhhhhhhhhhhahaaahahh..........................
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Old post 16/07/07 at 08:04 PM Reply #99
Despite all of the bad reviews of the comic I might still buy* it and consign it straight to a comic book bag**

* The word 'buy' in this post is a rough translation of the term 'waste my money on'

** The words 'comic book bag' in this post is a rough translation of the term 'quarantine'

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Old post 16/07/07 at 08:11 PM Reply #100
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Still, if offered a choice of reading the Classics comic or being punched in the face, I’d opt for the punch. Convention comics give me the chills *shudders*



After reading the dialogue as transcribed by Ralph, I just punched myself in the face.


If I have put you off ordering either the Botcon edition or the direct market edition (whenever it comes out) I will have done you good.

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Old post 16/07/07 at 08:22 PM Reply #101
I have a raw steak over my black-eye thus rendering me without good depth perception! I cannot utilise my mouse! I cannot order this comic!

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Old post 16/07/07 at 08:46 PM Reply #102
It's for the best in this case. Should your eyesight be restored and you wish to order a Transformers comic, it would be better to order a TF comic you already have but with a cover you don't have. Or a nicely printed trade. Or a random back issue of any other TF series. Or that new TF comic from Titan. Or make your own.

Do not order Timelines #2! I am already weeping for Dave.

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Old post 25/07/07 at 01:59 PM Reply #103
Aarrghhhggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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Old post 25/07/07 at 03:03 PM Reply #104
It arrived then?
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Old post 25/07/07 at 03:15 PM Reply #105
So its worth buying a copy then???

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Old post 25/07/07 at 06:11 PM Reply #106
It's just a mess, it really is. As noted they've disregard huge swathes of previous material and there doesn't seem to be any need for it. Why the fuck does Ultra Magnus have to be visiting Earth for the first time? So we can have that opening discussion about terrain? G2 is ignored - why? The story is set (according to the text story) 15 years after US#80, why not a similar number of years after G2#12 instead? What have we gained here from ignoring it? The crashed Ark as a Decepticon base IN THE WRONG FUCKING PLACE!

Hot Rod is called Rodimus now - or maybe he's Ho-Rodimus and the gap between hyphen and R was a mistake. Whoever the fuck he is, he's been beaten up pretty bad in some event that happened before this issue began involving Devastator. This is not relevant to the rest of the issue and is not addressed again. What a waste of panels.
Despite Grimlock being in charge of his own group of "Decepticon Hunters" Mirage decides it's trouble if he chooses to wander off after getting a message. Eh? So he flys after him. Somehow he loses him. Eh?
The two page Elita One (why?) vs. Ravage is just wrong. The Autobots burst in at the end and shoot up a load of computers because....nope no idea. They recover Mirage but leave Ratchet because...nah sorry don't know that either.

Dire. Absolute shite. I'm getting another drink.
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Old post 25/07/07 at 06:25 PM Reply #107

Sounds like I'll have to wear some latex gloves and a radiation suit before I even touch the comic.

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Old post 25/07/07 at 07:00 PM Reply #108
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Dire. Absolute shite. I'm getting another drink.


Now I really have to track down a copy of this!!!

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Old post 25/07/07 at 08:36 PM Reply #109
Huge piles of the Diamond edition are sitting in my local FP. Usually you have to pick up IDW TF (other than the reprints) comics on the Wednesday they come out as they sell out really fast. These have been sitting there for a week now.

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Old post 25/07/07 at 09:30 PM Reply #110
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Now I really have to track down a copy of this!!!


Make sure you have painkillers to hand. Or possibly alcohol. This comic has the capacity to inflict harm on anyone and everything it its vicinity.

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Old post 25/07/07 at 09:32 PM Reply #111
The Diamond edition is even worse! It has an exclusive (terrible) text piece which explains how the Last Autobot created the mini-cons.

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Old post 25/07/07 at 09:45 PM Reply #112
Completely pointless. They don't need a new storyline. They're just a new wave of G1 micromasters.

How can you hate the comic? It contains a meta reference to the Gobot Vs Transformers brand battle of the 1980s and a Gobot as a bad guy. It's post-modern tosh at its finest!

In related news, the Transformer Club promises to publish an all-new story on their web site today.
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Old post 25/07/07 at 10:28 PM Reply #113
Another thing wrong with it, the lettering font randomly changes a few times throughout. Bloody annoying it is too.

Oh yeah that text story in the Diamond edition is bloody awful...

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Old post 26/07/07 at 07:40 AM Reply #114
You bought it, didn't you?

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Old post 26/07/07 at 07:51 AM Reply #115
You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

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Old post 26/07/07 at 07:53 AM Reply #116
As Gareth reported above the text story is now online to download as a PDF:

www.transformersclub.com/_images/MiniConStory.pdf

I was under the impression that only members would be able to read it, but I had no problems saving it.

Not had a proper read yet, but the illustrations look good.


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Old post 22/08/07 at 07:02 PM Reply #117
For one heart-stopping moment in FPG today, I thought copies of Timelines #2 had sold, but no, they had been pushed behind the Thunderbolts comics. Phew.

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Old post 22/08/07 at 07:33 PM Reply #118
I had brought this comic (or should that be monstrosity) 2 weeks ago but had put off reading it until two days ago for fear of my eyes bleeding. I finally decided to confront my fears on Monday and read it after consuming several cans of beer and wound up with only mild trauma. The Transformers Classics toyline is one of my favourite toylines and I'm horrified that they had to debut in such depressing story. Hot Rod is actually Rodimus Prime and it isn't mentioned how Shockwave came to be a disembodied head. Surely the writer hasn't mixed the future set Marvel UK stories up with the present day (at the time) Marvel US stories but has used the recent Classics toyline to bring it up to date in some way.

And now for a sneak peak at Issue 3 of Timelines. Ultra Magnus accidently steps on Forest Lee which infuriates Megatron as it was his master plan in the first place to portray the Autobots as characterless abominations so that all other humans would turn against them.

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Old post 23/08/07 at 07:37 AM Reply #119
At least you had beer.

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Old post 23/08/07 at 09:30 AM Reply #120
It just makes me shudder thinking about it. I still haven't summoned the will to read the free download.
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Old post 23/08/07 at 07:18 PM Reply #121
I have not been brave enough to try the download story either.

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Old post 23/08/07 at 07:25 PM Reply #122
I did download it and that's as far as I got.

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Old post 17/09/07 at 07:35 PM Reply #124
I think on the 5th of November, we should burn all our Fun Publications comics. I shall donate my copy of Timelines #1 to the cause.

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Old post 17/09/07 at 08:05 PM Reply #125
Sounds like fun.

Will we be covered in tar and feathers?


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Old post 17/09/07 at 08:22 PM Reply #126
If you like.

We must all take photos and/or videos of the burnings.

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[Andy Turnbull]

In all fairness this is one thread we could have lost and all felt better about ourselves. Thanks to Tony we got a look at one of the recent Classics strips at Scotcon. Good lord it was bloody awful stuff.

Andy

[The Doctor]

It is retained to remind us all of our folly.

-Ralph

[The Doctor]

Some exciting news for fans of Fun Publications

-Ralph

[Bogatan]

In defence (why I dont know) of this comic it ties into the release of Nightbeat (club exclusive -Energon Hotshot) and this will be the first comic theyre produced that doesnt need a cast of 20 jammed in. They might be able to attempt that thing, what do you call it......... plot. Maybe even character developement.

I'm also excited about Sludge being in it for some reason.

As to the use of Energon Hotshot as anything but landfill padding, well different thread.

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I'm just looking forward to the moment when Andy Turnbull learns of the existence of Timelines #3 as he was such a fan of Timelines #2 and I know 'Forest Lee' is his favourite comics writer.

-Ralph

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> Thanks to Tony we got a look at one of the recent Classics strips at Scotcon. Good lord it
> was bloody awful stuff.

Yes, er, sorry about that! But it was for your own good. I had to give you all more motivation to produce good fanfic as long as drivel was available. I have restored balance in the Universe.

- Tony

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Gasp. A peek into the Hub before this Hub! The dark year of 2006!

-Ralph