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Post by blueshift on Apr 6, 2016 18:42:55 GMT
It's not about the toy! It's about the fun activity of putting a toy together and painting it!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 6, 2016 18:45:42 GMT
7 CW Deluxe: 4 in Predacus (Nosecone, Fireflight, Rook & Breakdown) Terrorsaur = Air Raid Ratchet = First Aid Which leaves one free for our Unit/Under 3 from Streetwise with Tigatron using the same toy mould as Predacus Ravage Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the custom mould generally been used as another toy too? |
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 6, 2016 18:51:23 GMT
Is the only custom part in this the head? anything else been remoulded?
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Post by blueshift on Apr 6, 2016 18:51:50 GMT
Pretty sure it's just the head
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 6, 2016 18:52:31 GMT
BAAAAHHHH!!!! BILE AND STOMACH CRAMPS TO THAT! I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THEIR WORK FOR THEM MATRIX-DAMNIT!!!!! It's not about the toy! It's about the fun activity of putting a toy together and painting it! *thinks* Naahhh. I like my action figures pre-arranged for me! But, ok, as a fun little activity.... whatevs'.... Not looking good for a third set of Autobot CW figures, is it...? |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 6, 2016 18:53:41 GMT
Whose shirts do you wear? |
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Post by Kingoji on Apr 6, 2016 18:54:10 GMT
I suspect things have changed since those numbers were released.
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 6, 2016 18:55:50 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 6, 2016 18:57:40 GMT
Whose shirts do you wear? Usually whoever the last band I saw live was. Today? Trivium! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 6, 2016 18:59:02 GMT
Good answer!
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Post by blueshift on Apr 6, 2016 18:59:33 GMT
That's the back of his head? Apparently there is also a fan-made enigma of combination in the class. |
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 6, 2016 19:01:24 GMT
No not the back of the head, the bit that looks like a roof.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 6, 2016 19:05:31 GMT
I assume that's the roof
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 6, 2016 19:07:58 GMT
Gah! Yes but is it a remoulded new roof, or is it just the existing roof!!! Or is it even a roof at all?!
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 6, 2016 19:12:48 GMT
Define 'roof'?
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Post by Toph on Apr 6, 2016 19:39:17 GMT
.................. that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.... It's a great idea! Though I gather it has turned less into 'people who want to know how to customise and deco figures' and more 'people piling in who want another exclusive toy to sell on ebay' for the most part due to the toy itself being exclusive rather than using an existing one. That's EXACTLY what it's turned into. The custom class usually sells out within hours, though the fastest time, it once sold out in MINUTES. It's almost always the exact same group of people, every year, too. People I know for a fact knew most, if not all the ends and outs of customizing, because they were always showing off customs they made. When the class began, it was a true custom class. Hasbro supplied a retail toy, unpainted, and unassembled. You put it together in class, to teach you not to be afraid of takibg them apart, and how to manage the pieces so you don't lose them, and how best to remember putting them together. Unpainted, so they didn't waist time stripping paint off them. And the decoes applied were quick and simple alterations to the existing retail toy. Turning it from one character, into another. The original custom class figure was Cybertron Scrapmetal, altered into Prebeast Inferno. Simple, quick, and easy. No exclusive to miss out on if you didn't make the class, and nothing you couldn't make at home, if you felt there was a gaping hole in your collection. It was about the fundamental basics of customizing. Teaching people who had no skills, how to get started in a setting with zero intimidation. "fans" started bitching that the toy wasn't special enough. So FP started running special colors, with G2 Sideswipe being the worst offender. FP never listened to fans over anything. Why they chose with THIS, I don't know. I know I got dogpiled on the TFCC boards and nearly run out, that I didn't deserve to go to the class because I was fighting to have the class made more fair, and lock out the same people who go every single year and take up seats. (Nothing extreme, just if you made it in one year, you were locked out the next) I was also told that if I didn't have a fast enough net connection, I didn't deserve to go because that meant I "didn't want it bad enough." Fuck I hate that club. |
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Post by nevermore on Apr 6, 2016 19:55:06 GMT
Is the only custom part in this the head? anything else been remoulded? Well, strictly speaking, the head isn't "remolded" or "custom", it's just the alternate head sculpt designed for the First Aid body from the get-go, which was just never put into use before. When the class began, it was a true custom class. Hasbro supplied a retail toy, unpainted, and unassembled. You put it together in class, to teach you not to be afraid of takibg them apart, and how to manage the pieces so you don't lose them, and how best to remember putting them together. Unpainted, so they didn't waist time stripping paint off them. And the decoes applied were quick and simple alterations to the existing retail toy. Turning it from one character, into another. The original custom class figure was Cybertron Scrapmetal, altered into Prebeast Inferno. Simple, quick, and easy. No exclusive to miss out on if you didn't make the class, and nothing you couldn't make at home, if you felt there was a gaping hole in your collection. It was about the fundamental basics of customizing. Teaching people who had no skills, how to get started in a setting with zero intimidation. Custom Class Scrapmetal already had the Cobybot alternate head that was never put into use on a Hasbro retail toy (only on an exclusive figure from an expensive and limited Japanese multi-pack). |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 6, 2016 20:05:23 GMT
Which in itself is a desirable reason to have it.
In fact NONE of the BC custom toys have been standard retail toys:
2006 2 x Scrapmetal inc Codybot Head
2007 Overkill from Classics Grimlock, but different to the Universe Overkill
2008 Nightbeat from Timelines Nightbeat
2009 Thunderclash from BC Thunderclash
2010 G2 Sideswipe from Universe 2 Sideswipe
2011 Minerva from Animated Arcee
2012 Shattered Glass Longarm/Shockwave from RTS Jazz
2013 Blastcharge Strika Drone from Warpath
2014 Primal Prime from Cybertron Optimus Primal
2015 Galva Convoy from T30 Orion Pax
2016 Ratchet from CW First Aid
Of those only Nightbeat is exactly the same plastic colours as another toy.
G2 Sideswipe should have made it to wider retail. The Longarm/Shockwave MIGHT have done OK at retail but is more suited to a more widely available exclusive: It's just too cool a multiple homage to be that limited!
The rest I've been not remotely tempted by!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 6, 2016 20:10:35 GMT
But I'll agree with the general sentiment that it's a convention activity that's rather shifter it's focus and lost it's original purpose.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 6, 2016 20:18:47 GMT
Had to do quite a bit of surgery: talk about the Ratchet Botcon toy and the custom class here please!
If you want to talk about it's impact on CW then the CW thread is what you want!
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Post by Toph on Apr 6, 2016 22:49:53 GMT
I never felt that the custom class shouldn't give a nice extra bonus, IE an extra head that hasn't been used anywhere else.
Just that the custom class should not be used as an outlet for a major exclusive.
Also, the Cody head wasn't an incentive. No one running the class had any clue they were getting it. Turned out it was gangmolded, and came along for the ride.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 6, 2016 22:56:58 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Apr 6, 2016 23:37:05 GMT
I never felt that the custom class shouldn't give a nice extra bonus, IE an extra head that hasn't been used anywhere else. Just that the custom class should not be used as an outlet for a major exclusive. Coming in quite late to this (shit - is that the time?) I agree. As someone who in the last year has started dabbling in customising figures for shits and giggles, I can see the appeal of a class to teach those skills. It's fun. But that is now not what this is. Having a character like Ratchet appear as the customising class character is less of a fun modifcation, more a "fuck you for not being there". |
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Post by blueshift on Apr 7, 2016 5:56:15 GMT
Reflector with transparent repaint as Flash Sentry
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 7, 2016 7:08:18 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 7, 2016 7:13:43 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 7, 2016 7:15:33 GMT
A Sentry figure for Shockprowl! Ho ho!
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Apr 7, 2016 7:24:35 GMT
AIRAZOR AIRAZOR AIRAZOR I NEEEEEEEEED HEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!
-hyperventilates and dies-
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Post by Benn on Apr 7, 2016 7:25:04 GMT
more a "fuck you for not being there". For a few years now I've felt that Botcon's exclusives as a whole have been either a "Fuck you for not being here" or a "Fuck you for being here with not enough money" I guess a lot of that is down to the American-centric nature of the whole thing. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 7, 2016 7:49:46 GMT
AIRAZOR AIRAZOR AIRAZOR I NEEEEEEEEED HEEEEEEEEER!!!!!! -hyperventilates and dies- Slipstream was made from Windblade: you do not need that mould in your life no matter what name it has or how nice it looks. |
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