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Post by Benn on Oct 1, 2016 19:27:37 GMT
Episode four is down.
The plot thickens, and the addition of censoring and excising the records is an interesting one. Certainly makes you awant to come back and see what's going on with that...
A good, fun, set of episodes to kick things off. Colin is damn good in his verbal sparring, that's my favorite bit so far, I reckon. More so than the short-lived invasion!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 1, 2016 19:32:56 GMT
I have put Pinwig's words through my Spectral Analyser and can reveal that when decoded they mean: 'I LOVE THE VALEYWARD. HE IS THE BEST.'
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 1, 2016 19:57:26 GMT
I would do, if his character made any sense whatsoever!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 1, 2016 20:27:48 GMT
His character makes perfect sense. As Urzu will discover.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 1, 2016 20:50:18 GMT
That reminds me. I must report to the Big Finish thread.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 8, 2016 10:41:28 GMT
Today we are watching the fifth part of Trial, Mindwarp www.dailymotion.com/video/x2o33rq_mindwarp-pt-1_shortfilmsThis is one of those stories that I think gets a bad rap. I never had a problem understanding it or thought it was quite confusing, but then again, the novel of it was one I'd keep getting out of the library when little! It's interesting that the trial both doesn't work and does in this part. The first half is the characters in the court watching TV all exclaiming "F*ck me this is tedious" which doesn't sell the drama, but then the Valeyard actually starts to make a coherant arguement about how the Doctor is clearly just needlessly throwing himself and his friends into the path of danger when he doesn't know the situation, which is actually an interesting point. This feels like the entire thrust of the episode actually. There's a lot of emphasis on the Doctor pushing the idea of THE ADVENTURE above his companion's pleas and being generally tone deaf to this. And then Colin Baker is all "Hurr hurr brickyard" |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 13:11:19 GMT
Mindwarp is unusual to me in that a lot of Doctor Who stories have a great first half, an episode of not a lot, and a weak end. This one is the other way round. The whole story builds toward the finale, which for once really pays off. The first episode is pretty weak, I think. For a 'Doctor investigates a new world and by the first cliffhanger has become involved in the plot' it's just a series of meetings - the mutant, then Dorf, then Sil. I'll post proper thoughts when we reach part 4! I was trying to remember when it was we knew for sure that Peri left in this story, but having flicked back through some DWMs from the time, it was in Gallifrey Guardian in the April '86 issue that she would do eight eps then Bonnie Langford would take over. So we must have been expecting her departure when this story kicked off, but maybe not the manner of it? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 8, 2016 13:21:07 GMT
The manner was a big, BIG shock. IIRC it was closed studio, no feed, in a similar manner to Earthshock to prevent people finding out.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 8, 2016 16:58:12 GMT
Young Ralph was pretty shocked at the time. It's one of my strongest childhood TV-related memories.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 8, 2016 17:01:23 GMT
Don't forget there are some people in this thread (Urzu!) who have not seen it all yet, so no naughty spoilers!
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 18:59:58 GMT
I think because I've seen that story periodically since, I have no discernible memories from the original broadcast. It's all kind of melted together. {Spoiler}Not like the end of Blake's 7, which I didn't get to see again until I got one of Horizon's dodgy VHS copies many, many years later. That one is forever burnt into my retina. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 8, 2016 19:15:41 GMT
I can, I remember the pink sky effect causing the picture on our TV to distort
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Post by blueshift on Oct 8, 2016 19:17:30 GMT
I don't think I saw it on broadcast.
There's a very real possibility that the very first Doctor Who story I ever saw was Time and the Rani, as my mum keeps on going on about it, and I have dim memories of Paradise Towers!
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 19:21:08 GMT
Blimey <screams>, baptism of <screams> fire <screams> there then. <screams>
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 8, 2016 21:45:24 GMT
My first memory of Who is of the Cybermen bursting through the space freighter walls in Earthshock as they wake up.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 21:50:28 GMT
Mine's the Daleks bursting through the wall at the end of Destiny 1.
Must be something about bursting through walls being memorable!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 8, 2016 21:52:59 GMT
It's how to impress a young mind!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 22:00:18 GMT
I now feel sad that Blueshift's first memory of Doctor Who doesn't involve wall bursting, just Bonnie Langford being thrown in a lake. Screaming.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 8, 2016 22:08:15 GMT
Her bubble does burst though!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 8, 2016 22:12:59 GMT
My first Who memory is Adric on that web in Castrovalva being "tortured" by the Master.
Andy
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Post by Benn on Oct 9, 2016 19:28:07 GMT
Brian Blessed and an Alien in the same show? My weekend has been made.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 9, 2016 19:30:42 GMT
Brian Blessed and an Alien in the same show? My weekend has been made. I never realised how absolutely crap the monster in this one was. Kudos to the director for refusing to shoot it. Do we ever get any sort of full body picture of the Raak in production material? It must rank as one of the most obscure monsters ever. |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 9, 2016 19:32:29 GMT
I now feel sad that Blueshift's first memory of Doctor Who doesn't involve wall bursting, just Bonnie Langford being thrown in a lake. Screaming. My mum talked about the Rani's ball traps in the same breath that she'd talk about the yeti in Web of Fear. When Kate O'Mara moved to Taunton, my mum took to carrying around a postcard of Time and the Rani in case she ever bumped into her (she did once but did not think of the postcard idea then!) As you can imagine I grew up with a very high opinion of the Rani |
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Post by Benn on Oct 9, 2016 19:32:44 GMT
No, no, THE Alien. The Ridley Scott one.
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 9, 2016 20:11:50 GMT
I think the Rani could have been a great character. She's great in Mark, but the glammed up post-Dynasty version in Time is terrible. She needed a third go in the later McCoy stories, but not written by Pip and Jane. Which probably wouldn't have happened if they had copyright on her.
Meanwhile, back on Mindwarp, I love the opening conversation between the Doctor and Peri. It's so relaxed and warm compared to the previous season. It's a genuine wrench when you find out he's done the dirty on her and not told her Thoros Beta is Sil's home world.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 9, 2016 20:12:52 GMT
She needed a third go in the later McCoy stories Yes Pinwig, there were only two Rani stories *pats*  |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 9, 2016 20:21:44 GMT
She did - Dimensions in Time!!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 9, 2016 20:35:01 GMT
I think the Rani could have been a great character. She's great in Mark, but the glammed up post-Dynasty version in Time is terrible. She needed a third go in the later McCoy stories, but not written by Pip and Jane. Your wish came true for two nights on BBC1 in the 30th anniversary story! -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 9, 2016 20:49:20 GMT
Oh of course; the third Rani story was 'The Race Against Time'.
WASN'T IT.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 9, 2016 20:56:48 GMT
No. It was called DIMENSIONS IN TIME. The story between SEARCH OUT SCIENCE and DOCTOR WHO: THE MOVIE.
-Ralph
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