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Post by primenova on Mar 23, 2017 7:54:12 GMT
Should the whole 4 classic pretenders set been drawn in the comics like the toys? So being more compact, Bumblebee with his wheels on his shoulders. Grimlock with his tail gun.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 23, 2017 8:05:22 GMT
Grimlock should have looked like Nixon.
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Post by The Huff on Mar 23, 2017 13:27:36 GMT
I think all Transformers should be drawn as close to the toys in the fiction. I've never understood the creative decision to make them look so unlike the actual product they are trying to advertise by giving them different faces, designs or even entire colour schemes.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 23, 2017 13:32:31 GMT
Indeed.
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Post by The Huff on Mar 23, 2017 16:16:23 GMT
Of course, the Pretender Classics did have proper character models that looked more like the figures. I wonder why they weren't used? On the other hand, it did surprise me that Grimlock and Prime were drawn differently when they became Action Masters.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 23, 2017 22:47:20 GMT
I think they had to draw them differently, just to emphasise the lack of transformation abilities.
Yeah, it would have been nice to have seen the classic Pretenders looking the way they should have done.
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Post by primenova on Mar 24, 2017 7:10:11 GMT
Grimlock robot mode looks more like Energon toys than his G1 toy.
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Post by blueshift on Mar 24, 2017 8:14:44 GMT
Grimlock robot mode looks more like Energon toys than his G1 toy. Other way round surely!! |
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Post by chrisl on Mar 24, 2017 10:47:29 GMT
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Post by The Huff on Mar 24, 2017 10:56:29 GMT
Wow! These are great! I haven't seen these before. The only thing is that Starscream's head/face needs to be black like the toy. Also, is there a Jazz one (with him trying to pear over his car hood)?
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Post by Death's Head on Mar 30, 2017 15:16:22 GMT
Those Guido images are fantastic. If you poke around his site, he's also done Starscream's pretender shell in a Masterforce style-e, and has recoloured the above Starscream into his strike plane brothers, and also Action Master Thundercracker! As a character-model geek I'd have loved to have seen the new models show up in glorious Delbo-vision. Are there images of the models in question anywhere? TF Wiki has a picture of Bumblebee's, but none of the others. |
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Post by chrisl on Mar 31, 2017 9:07:06 GMT
They must exist somewhere due to them being animated for the toy-commercials in the same style as the Bumblebee model.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 31, 2017 9:42:53 GMT
Nope. They may have existed but there is no guarantee that they will have been kept. Could easily have been destroyed.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2017 9:57:58 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2017 10:05:12 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2017 10:08:19 GMT
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Post by tomwe on Mar 31, 2017 13:13:28 GMT
Ah! the much pasted-up PM Prime drawing! Did Delbo zero time to do the art or was he just lazy…
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2017 13:17:09 GMT
See, I liked Classic Grimlock a lot better when I realised he ws an update of Pretender Grimlock.
Delbo wasn't the only one to copy PM Prime! Robin Smith was rather fond of using the character art too...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2017 13:23:53 GMT
Ah! the much pasted-up PM Prime drawing! Did Delbo zero time to do the art or was he just lazy… He should have done time for some of his art! |
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Post by primenova on Mar 31, 2017 13:58:37 GMT
I'm going to go back & look - wasn't there lots of times the characters where stood holding guns when not in battle on the US comic.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 31, 2017 14:13:00 GMT
I know the first appearance of PM Prime in US 42 is that stance.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2017 15:06:45 GMT
Ah! the much pasted-up PM Prime drawing! Did Delbo zero time to do the art or was he just lazy… He should have done time for some of his art! Bad Phil! We love The Delbo! *leans backwards in pride* -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Mar 31, 2017 15:43:53 GMT
*raises one arm*
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 31, 2017 21:45:06 GMT
Ah! the much pasted-up PM Prime drawing! Did Delbo zero time to do the art or was he just lazy… He should have done time for some of his art! BAD PHIL! |
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Post by primenova on Apr 1, 2017 7:11:02 GMT
I know some panels are a bit bad but you can see quite a lot of work on them. Also Transformers was low on Marvel editors list of things to care about & most didn't know they produced the comics after #24. Also I checked & all the creators where doing Batman at the same time.
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Post by The Huff on Apr 1, 2017 7:34:44 GMT
The crappy colouring didn't help. I'd quite like to see the US issues reprinted devoid of colour so we can appreciate the art (or drawings) more.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 1, 2017 8:27:31 GMT
But we love Yomtov! Do you not feel Yomtlove???
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Post by primenova on Apr 1, 2017 13:33:33 GMT
I agree there - would be great to see how much art was lost on colouring.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 1, 2017 13:39:41 GMT
I agree there - would be great to see how much art was lost on colouring. I actually had some pics of Delbo art some pre-ink, some pre-colouring, and it actually looked a hell of a lot better before the heavy inks and colours of the period. Can't find it on my computer, though I'm sure I made a point of moving it over to this machine! I think one of his main drawbacks was that he just didn't understand Transformers, and drew them as objects rather than people, if that makes sense. |
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Post by The Huff on Apr 1, 2017 13:41:55 GMT
I'm sure there was some of the artwork in the Titans books extras, I remember, that didn't have the colour and it looked great. I'm sure it was from the Micromaster Wrestler story.
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