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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 31, 2017 22:02:56 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2017 22:05:30 GMT
Hmmmm.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 31, 2017 22:06:04 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 31, 2017 22:07:07 GMT
If I saw them in a store I admit I would probably buy one.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 4, 2017 21:40:26 GMT
Unlikely, due to the trademark issue.
Which at least explains why DC have changed the cover to Watchmen trades in the UK/Europe.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2017 10:19:12 GMT
They have? This seems to have passed me by. Is there now some issue?
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 5, 2017 17:58:06 GMT
Yes. The Smiley Face symbol is public domain in the US but over in Europe has been trademarked by The Smiley Company.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2017 18:12:13 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 5, 2017 18:15:26 GMT
It's not THE smiley face though is it?
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Post by blueshift on Apr 5, 2017 18:16:52 GMT
It is pretty unbelievable isnt' it. Other things still under copyright include the 'Happy birthday to you' song and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2017 18:26:14 GMT
I didn't know there was a THE Smiley Face!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 5, 2017 20:32:57 GMT
It's very stupid, the International cover to Watchmen is rubbish.
And now this upcoming crossover, it's very frustrating as a retailer. No lenticular covers for Parts 1 or 2, Part 3 is ok, and no idea on Part 4 yet as they haven't shown us the cover, but I had to order them over a month ago. Shame I don't have the buying power like FP to grey import a bunch for a reasonable amount.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2017 21:09:04 GMT
Is the smiley face still in the actual story of Watchmen? Banning it from the cover but keeping it inside makes even less sense.
-Ralph
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 6, 2017 20:35:11 GMT
It can't be used on the cover as then they [Smiley Company] can argue [legally] that it's using their trademark to sell the book [it isn't] and claim money from DC. Use of it inside is fine. Only difference on the Watchmen International edition is the cover.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 6, 2017 21:45:04 GMT
Wow. Moons of madness!
I didn't even know there was a Smiley Company!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 9, 2017 23:19:10 GMT
Neither did I until recently.
Andy
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 18, 2017 21:23:13 GMT
Picked up the comics. The crossover wasn't bad.
Love me a gimmick cover.
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Post by Jaymz on May 18, 2017 22:35:01 GMT
It wasn't good either. 2 issues would've been more than enough.
Thawne thinking up ways to be nasty to the Flash while they're running along was laughable ["yeah, and then I'm going to go back in time and adopt you"], as was Batman's "my dad's real Barry!" when Barry was telling him to ignore the voices.
I'd like to see some kind of follow up to this sooner than November, namely Barry asking Wally about the old Run-Fast-Man with the fancy helmet, but I don't see it happening. It's taken nearly a year for the world's greatest detective [he isn't] to find out something about the badge.
Ah well, at least this week's Batman was good. First issue that felt like King had written it.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 27, 2017 20:26:35 GMT
I think the fact I am only dipping in and out makes me a bit more favourable to it.
I agree the fact that we have until November before following it up is a bit daft.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 22, 2019 17:54:57 GMT
Library had the 4 chunky Before Watchmen trades in so curiosity got the better of me. There's about 1000 pages of this stuff! All of it is redundant: all the character, story info and themes you need are in the original series. However, on its own merits the Minutemen/Silk Spectre volume is actually quite good. Darwyn Cooke and Amanda Connor got the tone spot on. Worth a read.
Avoid the rest, especially the book with the Comedian series. Easily one of the most distasteful comics I've read. Yes, we knew he was a horrible man but this genuinely disgusted me. I don't see what the point of it was. It adds nothing but bile.
Over most of the BW issues there is a general misunderstanding of what constitutes adult storytelling. Too often it's crass language, violence and sordid situations and a lot of it comes across as just a tad juvenile as a result.
But yes: Minutemen and Silk Spectre are finely crafted and I enjoyed those stories.
-Ralph
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