|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 18, 2017 18:24:45 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Llama God on Dec 18, 2017 23:49:38 GMT
*looks at his recently acquired MPM Optimus*
I... may pass.
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 8, 2018 19:15:14 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 30, 2018 7:43:33 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by The Doctor on Feb 1, 2018 22:12:54 GMT
He also appears to have been smoking.
-Ralph
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 11, 2018 15:12:37 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Feb 11, 2018 15:39:43 GMT
After the initial buzz I've lost track of this. Do we have info on whether any of these are new moulds, or are they redecos/remoulds? Is this Hasbro's interpretation of THE BEST idea?
|
|
|
|
Post by Bogatan on Feb 11, 2018 16:26:40 GMT
That bumblebee is new. Theres only been the one 76/77? Camero Bee and it aint that.
I kind of like it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Feb 11, 2018 16:51:03 GMT
He looks solid; there's nothing hollow there and the proportions are right. It looks a cut above the usual Deluxe quality. I'm getting more interested in these. If they're *proper* premium figures, unlike the Premier line, I could be interested.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bogatan on Feb 11, 2018 17:02:13 GMT
I've really had to reacess my views on the movie deluxes from the last couple of films in the last few months.
The AOE Bee that was reused as TLK premier Bee is a very lightweight toy, but surprisingly fun. Ditto AOE Dinobots that I mostly hadnt played with before. All the new mould TLK toys have been a positive experience, even if I can't get my head around the original price on them.
This new Bee maybe an improvement on them though.
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Feb 11, 2018 18:00:42 GMT
I can't work out what I think about the movie toys. I get excited about some of the better looking figures, but then the appeal doesn't last long after getting them. The TLK Voyager Megatron is a genuinely good toy, really nicely designed and executed, but a week after getting him he went in the loft with the others. I've got three sets of the Dinobot moulds but I'm not sure why. I think I was looking for the best set to display as a team, but they always seem just short of what they could be.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bogatan on Feb 11, 2018 18:56:55 GMT
I think there are two problems.
My theory is that Hasbro have felt that with the backing of big films (and with Prime/RID toys their respective shows) the toys will be bought based on the film not the toy. Generations on the other hand is only selling on the strength of the toys (well nostalgia too) and, they now admit, to adult collectors so that line always has slightly more to it.
The second problem is that ROTF was in a lot of respects the high water mark of modern toys, you might not like the movie look or complexity, but the quality of the toys is hard to argue with. The later line made a lot of fun toys (probably more fun than most of ROTF) but as representations of the same onscreen characters the comparison isnt usually good.
|
|
|
|
Post by blueshift on Feb 11, 2018 19:02:41 GMT
And honestly I think it's the same problem Hasbro has with the Movies figures as Star Wars - if you concentrate on a small roster of characters whose appearance generally doesn't change that much, then there's only so many times people will buy the same characters.
I mean really, if you've got a Prime from the first movie even, it's good enough as a Prime from Last Night, he hasn't changed THAT much unless you're going to be super anal about it. That's why the Movie figures seems to be diminishing returns.
(and with Star Wars, Last Jedi featured 90% the same characters in the same costumes as the previous films, so if you already had your Force Awakens collection, what will you get out of Last Jedi apart from uh, the boring looking Hux and Rose figures. No wonder why they rot on shelves and Hasbro lost so much)
|
|
|
|
Post by Llama God on Feb 12, 2018 7:28:05 GMT
That's a very good point. Even with my Optimus fetish I've tended to only buy one from each line, given how similar they are. (Although I've then ended up with more due to gifting, etc.) After the (insane) genius of RotF Leader Prime, I think Hasbro did a clever thing with the Ultimate Optimus Prime for DotM. Yes, it's nothing like he looks in the film, but at least it's a different toy with a different gimmick. They need to do more of that...
|
|
|
|
Post by Toph on Feb 12, 2018 11:07:56 GMT
Hasbro has given us four perfect movie optimi, and a fair few more who're really fun (perfect: rotf leader, battle blades voyager, tlk voyager, MP. Fun: many, including both original leader and voyager)
I never got the DotM voyager or deluxes, because the RotF leader and voyagers were so perfect, with far less cheating.
All that said, there's something to be said making main characters available across different size classes. Even working from the same design, it offers something Star Wars really can't. Variety. As well as making the main players easier for kids to acquire, as it's far easier for a kid to talk his or her mom into spontaneously buying them a $15 Optimus Prime, than it is to talk mom into buying a $45 Optimus Prime.
Star Wars doesn't really have that option. Just 6" Articulated, 4" Articulated, and 4" basic. I mean it's not like there's a scale matter going on where Obi Wan is 30' and Luke is 20'.
Another thing is it's good to keep certain characters and/or designs available, periodically.* Everyone get's tired of so many Bumblebees, but those of us who've collected movie toys since the beginning are the minority. There are collectors brought in by AOE, who don't have a Bumblebee that represents his appearance in the first three films. Or Optimus. It's been several years since the RotF Battle Blades and Leader class have been available.
And it's been ten years since a toy of the old camero was done. And that one was a disservice, even back then.
*I have this discussion with a friend all the time, who insists that the RiD toys are already perfect, and thus have no need to be updated. Even though there's an entire generation of collectors who've never seen an RiD figure in person, have not been available for at least 12 years (or longer), and most of the molds are toast preventing reissues from ever happening.
|
|
|
|
Post by Llama God on Feb 12, 2018 21:16:26 GMT
You make a good point with regards the size issues, and that's something I also appreciate. And that's exactly why I've stayed away from the Voyager class Primes. But yeah, there is room in other collectors' collections for some of these figures. Just not in mine. And that's okay. :-)
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 15:33:04 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 15:37:21 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 15:53:48 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Toph on Feb 17, 2018 17:13:00 GMT
I like the cards for deluxes better, because the boxes are too claustrophobic for such small figures. It hides them too much.
That said, these are so much better than the TLK packaging! They're so much more visually striking, and will pop on the shelves so much better. The TLK just... blend in with all the visual noise.
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:38:17 GMT
Adam Pawlus
@adam16bit
19s20 seconds ago
Studio Series Transformers. It's a secret, did you know about it? Movie fan product, co-branded with Takara-Tomy. Delxue, Voyager, Leader. CAD files used from movies. New tools, fools.
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:39:02 GMT
TFU.INFO
@tfu_INFO
12s12 seconds ago
Wave 2 - All new TF1 Jazz and TF4 Lockdown. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:41:03 GMT
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
33s34 seconds ago
Leader Wave 1: Blackout. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
43s44 seconds ago
Leader Wave 1: Screen accurate Grimlock! #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
56s57 seconds ago
Voyager Exclusive to TRU: Thundercracker (based on Nitro sculpt) #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
1m1 minute ago
Voyager Wave 2: Decepticon Brawl. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
1m1 minute ago
Voyager Wave 2: Megatron from RotF #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
Benson Yee
@bwtf_Ben
2m2 minutes ago
Voyager Wave 1: Starscream and RotF OP #HasbroToyFair #NYTF #Transformers
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:41:58 GMT
There was a rumoured Voyager Thundercrcker which was 50/50 POTP/Movie, looks like POTP lost out
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:42:19 GMT
TFU.INFO
@tfu_INFO
55s55 seconds ago
studio series wave 1 now available on Hasbro Toy Shop. #HasbroToyFair #NYTFhttps://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/en/htsusa/-e0739ax00?catName=
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 20:21:40 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 20:21:56 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 21:13:54 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Pinwig on Feb 17, 2018 21:29:35 GMT
Definitely having Blackout, just as an individual piece. Not sure I want that whole series though. Even though they're clearly what the movie toys always should have been. They look great.
|
|
|
|
Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 22:21:46 GMT
|
|
