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Post by primenova on Feb 16, 2018 7:39:23 GMT
I agree with Ralph above - it is going to be confusing on shop shelfs when they look the same. We may end up being charged the wrong prices. Megatron looks like someone had a 2nd go at the same toy to make it better. Starscream looks like someone was trying to do Thunderwing. Shockwave looks amazing!
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Post by primenova on Feb 16, 2018 7:41:43 GMT
Just image how long it would be to go into Argos & buy Megatron & how many times you'd need to send them back to get the right one
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 16, 2018 7:55:46 GMT
I agree with Ralph above - it is going to be confusing on shop shelfs when they look the same. We may end up being charged the wrong prices Prices usually come off bar codes these days Pete! But I can see wrong assortments going in the wrong place under the wrong tab and parents being cofused, buying the wrong thing. |
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Post by Llama God on Feb 16, 2018 8:01:56 GMT
I quite like the look of these. It's been so long since we've had an Optimus Prime that actually looks like the original Optimus Prime! I mean, can anyone remember the last time that he actually turned into a truck with a trailer..?
Uh-huh.
But that article aside, I do like the look of these as the nuRiD replacements. They look like they could be as playable as that current line is. Hopefully they'll do well with kids.
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Post by Toph on Feb 16, 2018 10:29:17 GMT
I agree with Ralph above - it is going to be confusing on shop shelfs when they look the same. We may end up being charged the wrong prices. Megatron looks like someone had a 2nd go at the same toy to make it better. Starscream looks like someone was trying to do Thunderwing. Shockwave looks amazing! I just said they will not be in the same shops. |
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Post by primenova on Feb 16, 2018 11:47:25 GMT
But what if there is a mess up on assigning the barcodes to correct price? Ok if you are getting the cartoon ones at A price but the other way around isn't going to be fun
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 16, 2018 11:51:08 GMT
There was a situation a year or so back when someone swore blind he'd seen Warrior Bisk and Ratchet. He hadn't he'd seen the One Steps. I believe M of this parrish had similar difficult.
This will be worse.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 16, 2018 16:18:59 GMT
And thus, did Generations end. *Turns eyes to the weekend* Come on. Don't let this be it. What?!?! End of Generations?!?! No!!! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 16, 2018 16:20:38 GMT
Mind you I am having that Shockwave. Oh yes. Even if he does transform into a table. Goink! Shockprowl's dream come true! Prowl has his own Shockwave table to flip!
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Post by Stomski on Feb 16, 2018 19:47:17 GMT
In my day things were much simpler...
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 17, 2018 14:17:02 GMT
What also strikes me about the line-up for Cyberverse is the lack so far of original characters. Generations is the nostalgia line. RID had a good mix of older and newer characters. I'm not sure we need a second remake line running alongside the already existing ongoing remake line (Generations).
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Feb 17, 2018 14:44:21 GMT
Yeah because the people in charge are now all geewunners. G1 fanboys who insist all g1 all the time.
Betcha anything the new movie reboot will be more G1 based than bayverse. And if that's the case, then we got:
Generations: G1 for adults (because fuck bw/ut/rid/animated, those suck, amiright?)
Cyberverse: G1 for kids (because 8 year olds fondly remember a cartoon that hasn't been on air for 30 years, amiright?)
Masterpiece: G1 for Adults (because adults just worship that old cartoon, amiright?)
Movie: G1 for teens. (Because G1, amiright?)
And G1 will be the literal permanent death of the franchise. Without allowing the franchise to evolve with the times and follow what kids actually like, but instead just retelling the same stories with the same characters over and over, you stop bringing in newer fans.
Then long time fans will eventually get tired of buying the same basic designs over and over again. If you got ten cab-over optimus toys already, some from ten or more years ago, why buy yet another?
This is why G2 failed, where Beast Wars saved the franchise from extinction. Right out the gate G2 literally just repackaged what came before it. The toys were repackaging the old toys. The cartoon was a repackage of the old cartoon.
By the time the line started to innovate with the times (new characters, new gimmicks like ARTICULATION), it was too late.
Then BW came in with all new toys, all new characters, all new story, following popular nineties trends (animals, conservation, stuff like that).
I know nothing about GI Joe, but a friend told me that this pattern was basically what killed Joe. They got stuck constantly redoing everything eighties, and not only did not allow it to grow and change, but pushed back hard against the few attempts there were to open it back up.
But yeah, the kids line needs to be more innovative than Cyberverse looks (so far). It needs to be the line that pushes new concepts and new characters, because god forbid some of the adults will flip out if something newer than 1991 ever touches Generations.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 18:19:28 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 17, 2018 18:29:21 GMT
Not seeing anything in your post on mobile, Phil.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 18:39:04 GMT
Forum is having problems with tweets again. ^rse, not a good night for that to happen
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Post by Toph on Feb 17, 2018 19:02:42 GMT
I'm on mobile, and can see it just fine.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:22:34 GMT
Cartoon Clip:
Adam Pawlus
@adam16bit
10s10 seconds ago
Grimlock, Windblade, Bee, Ops shown. Megatron, Shockwave, Starscream. Shadowstriker! New Decepticon lady car.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:23:56 GMT
TFU.INFO
@tfu_INFO
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Interesting to note, they are referring to this as the Animation line. Sounds to me like it reinforces the notion that this is the RID15 replacement. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:24:19 GMT
Adam Pawlus
@adam16bit
33s34 seconds ago
"Action attack." Pop-out guns, signature moves on toys. Action happens during transformation of "action attacker."
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:24:48 GMT
TFU.INFO
@tfu_INFO
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Cyberverse commercial shows off action attack features. Grimlock has rocket roar. Shockwave's back cannon is over the shoulder laser. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 19:25:02 GMT
TFU.INFO
@tfu_INFO
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Cyberverse will be in show room. #HasbroToyFair #NYTF
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 20:28:19 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 20:29:12 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 17, 2018 21:17:31 GMT
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Post by Benn on Feb 17, 2018 23:10:31 GMT
It's annoying how much I like some of these. I don't need another Starscream or Grimlock. Shockwave, however...
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Post by Llama God on Feb 18, 2018 10:21:04 GMT
These do look like fun, and I'm definitely interested, even if there is, as already stated, a lack of any new characters whatsoever.
But that's some interesting points from Toph - let's hope that they do something new and fresh soon.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 18, 2018 20:19:36 GMT
Ah ha. There is one original character after all!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Feb 18, 2018 21:01:35 GMT
There is? I hadn't seen one in any of the coverage so far, got a link? (That's one I might be tempted by, depending on what it is like)
Also, I've just seen in that gallery the half-transformed Megatron standing there with an armoured vehicle body, with a long gun barrel, stood on two legs looking desperately ungainly. Looks very like a Spartas Hovertank from SDC: Southern Cross! And similarly wonderfully goofy.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 18, 2018 21:05:44 GMT
Up thread, one of Phil's links mentions Shadowstriker.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Feb 18, 2018 21:08:22 GMT
Ah! I'd missed that! Lurgy must have scrambled my sensors a bit.
Excellent. I might be tempted to snag her if she shows up over here in that case.
Karl
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