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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 24, 2018 18:37:02 GMT
I think Sideswipe could be repainted - Sunstreaker, Bluestreak, Smokescreen & Prowl Sunstreaker's roof is on his chest, not his bonnet! They only have to stick lights on the roof. The only thing is Prowl normally have slimmer torso that broad style for Sideswipe. Bluestreak, Prowl & Smokescreen have their bonnets on their chest but they all stick out, not folded flat. Granted it wouldn't be the hugest piece of remoulding to fix that tough... |
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Post by legios on Jul 24, 2018 20:37:35 GMT
But we must never underestimate the power of the spider mafia! Spider-Mafia! Spider-Mafia! With the proportional strength of an organised crime conspiracy, and a "Mafia Sense" which alerts them to the approach of clean cops? :-) Karl |
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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2018 0:01:55 GMT
Cybertronian Car Brothers-
Prowl: Inevitable Red Alert retool of Sideswipe
X-Brawn: Hound
Sideburn: Chromia retool
Ultra Magnus: UM retool
Optimus Prime: Optimus or UM retool, adding Super Fire Convoy armor.
Or don't cheap out and GIVE UP NEW MOLDS. -sick of G1-
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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2018 4:08:07 GMT
Actually, I think a relatively mild retool could get RiD Ultra Magnus out of Siege Magnus.
New chest, new head, new shoulders, add the wings if possible.
Chromia really would make a magnificent Sideburn. May not even need a new chest like I first thought, if the paint job is clever enough.
Rethinking Prowl. And I concluded PotP Punch is about perfect. Add a lightbar, and new head. I think the wheel fender shoulders can get into the right configuration for him, in Punch mode.
There's not any really better choices for X-Brawn. So for now, sticking with Hound or Ironhide.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2018 6:48:24 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 29, 2018 7:29:03 GMT
Still way too much going on with him and the female car bot.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2018 8:51:13 GMT
Very true. What a mad world. MPs too plain to be right, Generations figures too detailed to be right.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2018 9:01:03 GMT
Snakas' blog is saying the WFC figures here are production ones and not the hand painted ones that were at SDCC. They do look a bit better than the SDCC ones. The battle damage isn't quite as obvious as the hand painted ones.  |
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Post by Dezzeh on Jul 29, 2018 12:57:20 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2018 13:50:39 GMT
There's numbering on the western WFC Siege figures but they don't match the numbering on the Japanese figures. How Silly is that? In the west we know WFC-S1 Fireblast
WFC-S10 Sideswipe
WFC-S11 Optimus Prime but in Japan SG-01 Firedrive
SG-02 Leonizer
SG-03 Race Car Patrol: Roadhandler & Swindler
SG-04 Sideswipe
SG-05 Cog
SG-06 Optimus Prime
SG-07 Ultra Magnus
SG-08
SG-09
SG-10 Battle Patrol: Bigshot & Flask
SG-11
SG-12
SG-13 Hound
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2018 14:32:01 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2018 14:40:04 GMT
Woah! Deluxes in boxes! I'd not noticed that.
Gosh they do look good. I know it's 84 again and the battle damage is unnecessary, but oh my word. If classics looked that good from the start I'd have been onboard straight away way back when.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2018 14:42:58 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2018 14:43:40 GMT
Woah! Deluxes in boxes! I'd not noticed that. Neither had I. I've also found the edge of Op's box and Cog's box, but he's in front if it. |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 29, 2018 15:02:32 GMT
This line is going to piss me off. The battle damage and dirt is just enough to put me off some of them and the over detailing really is putting me off even more.
Right now the only one I am pretty sure I want is Cog.
I'd take a Prime minus battle damage. I really like Sideswipe, but I dont feel like I need another Sideswipe especially with battle damage. Though G2 would be a must buy.
Little hope for Magnus unless a future RID Magnus remould isn't quite so OTT. Ditto Chromia or which ever one it is.
Hound is one of the few were the battle damage doesn't seem too off putting and its not too detailed, I'm just not keen on the mould from what I have seen so far.
This is going to be a hugely annoying line.
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Post by drmick on Jul 30, 2018 16:37:08 GMT
This line is going to piss me off. The battle damage and dirt is just enough to put me off some of them and the over detailing really is putting me off even more. Right now the only one I am pretty sure I want is Cog. I'd take a Prime minus battle damage. I really like Sideswipe, but I dont feel like I need another Sideswipe especially with battle damage. Though G2 would be a must buy. Little hope for Magnus unless a future RID Magnus remould isn't quite so OTT. Ditto Chromia or which ever one it is. Hound is one of the few were the battle damage doesn't seem too off putting and its not too detailed, I'm just not keen on the mould from what I have seen so far. This is going to be a hugely annoying line. You are not alone in your reservations. I have been slowly catching up on the TF podcasts from SDCC. They have been unusually negative towards this year's reveals. The criticism seems to be a mixture of different things though. Some don't like the Siege aesthetic. But a lot of them are getting fed up with the same G1 characters over and over again. Some are clamouring for Beast Wars and Unicron Trilogy characters done more modernly. Bizarrely- I'm m in the opposite group. I loved all the reveals. |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 30, 2018 16:53:23 GMT
I'm on the fence about more G1. On the back of the Prime trilogy it feels like too much, on the other hand they are far closer to the G1 classics I want. Battle damage and over detailing aside Ive been waiting for this voyager Prime for 12 years. It is nearly a decade since the last proper classics Sideswipe or Hound.
Still this is the 5th Prime not including repaints (or RID, Movie, Recuebots) in the last 4 years. At least we are getting some Micromasters and targetmasters.
I really like the choice to make the robot modes G1 and the vehicles some degree of Cybertronian, but again I can see why thats not for everyone.
As for Beast Wars, all for them, but we are up to Micromasters, give me some Actionmasters and Euro/G2 first.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 31, 2018 6:41:05 GMT
Still way too much going on with him and the female car bot. They're just good friends! |
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Post by Toph on Jul 31, 2018 8:55:53 GMT
You are not alone in your reservations. I have been slowly catching up on the TF podcasts from SDCC. They have been unusually negative towards this year's reveals. The criticism seems to be a mixture of different things though. Some don't like the Siege aesthetic. But a lot of them are getting fed up with the same G1 characters over and over again. Some are clamouring for Beast Wars and Unicron Trilogy characters done more modernly. Bizarrely- I'm m in the opposite group. I loved all the reveals. I'm on the fence about more G1. On the back of the Prime trilogy it feels like too much, on the other hand they are far closer to the G1 classics I want. Battle damage and over detailing aside Ive been waiting for this voyager Prime for 12 years. It is nearly a decade since the last proper classics Sideswipe or Hound. Still this is the 5th Prime not including repaints (or RID, Movie, Recuebots) in the last 4 years. At least we are getting some Micromasters and targetmasters. I really like the choice to make the robot modes G1 and the vehicles some degree of Cybertronian, but again I can see why thats not for everyone. As for Beast Wars, all for them, but we are up to Micromasters, give me some Actionmasters and Euro/G2 first. Hound may very well have a Cybertron Defense Hotshot retool in store. It seems som art is using a head that's spot on for Hotshot. |
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Post by primenova on Jul 31, 2018 11:29:40 GMT
The hang box design does look good
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 14:40:05 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 14:41:14 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jul 31, 2018 15:04:42 GMT
I'm not sure that works.
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Post by drmick on Jul 31, 2018 15:09:49 GMT
Cybertron Defense Hot Shot- that's the one that became Springer and Roadbuster, right? Hardly seems the best mold to get Armada/Energon Hot Shot out of.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 15:42:08 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 15:45:58 GMT
Better that I anticipated when I saw the head and thought "what are they thinking?" The main problem is the lack of the turret but with the Weapons mounted on top just right.... maybe.   Now I've got them side by side the robot shoulder's are a real problem. Doesn't help that CD Hot Shot is an all time favourite. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 31, 2018 16:42:16 GMT
I can see it...
But I also think perhaps they are just scavenging design elements from past lines. Hence what also happened to the Monsterbots/Dinocons that people foresaw must be coming because of some shared detailing.
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Post by Toph on Jul 31, 2018 18:35:52 GMT
I can see it... But I also think perhaps they are just scavenging design elements from past lines. Hence what also happened to the Monsterbots/Dinocons that people foresaw must be coming because of some shared detailing. Well when it's shown with the exact head of a different character, a head that is not it's own, then it's not shared detailing. In the case of the pretender monsters, that was Wildfly's head on the toy sample. It was distinctly different from the Cutthroat* head. In this case, it is not the Hound head we see on the pictures of the toy, or the renders. Hound's actual head is completely different, and looks like Hound. Edit: *I always get Cutthroat and Divebomb's names mixed up. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 19:11:30 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 31, 2018 19:21:46 GMT
I can see it... But I also think perhaps they are just scavenging design elements from past lines. Hence what also happened to the Monsterbots/Dinocons that people foresaw must be coming because of some shared detailing. Well when it's shown with the exact head of a different character, a head that is not it's own, then it's not shared detailing. In the case of the pretender monsters, that was Wildfly's head on the toy sample. It was distinctly different from the Divebomb head. Cutthroat: Original Blocky Head:  POTP Render:  POTP Release:  NYCC 2017:  Monsterbot:  Dinoforce:  |
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