Duocons

[Shockprowl]

Both vehicles share a consciousness, linked by some deep robotic telepathy that operates via manipulation of quantum entanglement. They think as one... Halves of a whole, but double the trouble...

[Pinwig]

Oh wait, it's in the tech spec:

Flywheels: Split personality - fights himself more often than his foes. Each half of him is jealous of the other. Often heard arguing with himself, even when unified in robot mode

[Shockprowl]

Battletrap....



Look what they did to you... look what they



COULD HAVE DOOOONNNEEE!!!!!

[Shockprowl]

Mar 31, 2019 21:05:39 GMT Pinwig said:

Oh wait, it's in the tech spec:

Flywheels: Split personality - fights himself more often than his foes. Each half of him is jealous of the other. Often heard arguing with himself, even when unified in robot mode

....I didn't know that... That's interesting.



Battletrap's intelligence is only '3'. A consequence of a split mind...?

[Pinwig]

That's quite complicated really. Pity the comic chickened out of exploring that.

[Shockprowl]

Mar 31, 2019 21:11:10 GMT Pinwig said:

That's quite complicated really. Pity the comic chickened out of exploring that.

Absolutely! Chickened out and made them 'Triple Changers'. YAWN!



Hey, haven't we talked about this before somewhere? Didn't Martin or Karlos do a fiction on it?





I'm still so mad about Battletrap....

[The Doctor]

Don't you say bad things about Battletrap.

-Ralph

[Fortmax2020]

Mar 31, 2019 20:53:19 GMT Pinwig said:

How do you reckon these work then? Where does the sentience go when in vehicle mode? Is the bit with the head inside intelligent and the other vehicle a drone under remote control? Both halves can't have a separate intelligence or they'd just argue. Or does the sentience take an omniscient role and operate both vehicles simultaneously?

Ahh, another problem arises from applying human standards to alien mechanoids.

To quote Data "I am unlike any lifeforms that you have previously encountered."

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Mar 31, 2019 21:14:15 GMT Shockprowl said:

Absolutely! Chickened out and made them 'Triple Changers'. YAWN!

Hey, haven't we talked about this before somewhere? Didn't Martin or Karlos do a fiction on it?

tmukhub.proboards.com/post/357517/thread

CHARACTERS FROM THE 1987 TOY RANGE: BATTLETRAP'S BEASTS - THEY BATTLE FOR FUN

December 1991.

"YEAHHH!" whooped Alligatron the Gruesome Gator as another missile launched from Battletrap's arsenal found its target, and Yellow Rubberneck Giraffe's dwelling went up in flames.

"Ten points!" gloated the Decepticon helicopter. "Where to next?"

"Twenty klicks due east," replied his guide from the pilot's seat, his white scaly feet crossed on the control panel.

"What's that thing doing back there?" demanded Hardtop Tortoise the Black Turtle, seated beside his leader and gesturing with his head to the bumper-car-sized jeep stowed in the back of the helicopter.

"That's the other half of me," said Battletrap, setting course for the next village. "I shrink it down to miniature size when I want to be just one vehicle. Makes some of my enemies think I'm a Triple Changer... right up until it's too late! I'll show you what I mean when we reach our next target. Hmmm, I wonder how Flywheels is getting on with your two friends..."

"Killer Carpfish and Horny Toad Drillfrog?"

"No."

"Sawtooth Badshark and Triple Threat Snakebomb?"

"Yeah. Them."

"Don't sweat it, those two are hopeless. No-one knows this planet like I do. They'll be lucky to get half our score."

"Oh... damn," said Battletrap.

"What's the matter?" wondered Alligatron, not liking the sudden change in their Duocon ally's demeanour.

"I'm getting an incoming message from Bludgeon. Seems Grimlock has left Cybertron and is going to lead us to the source of the Nucleon. We gotta go... Dinobots to kill, you know how it is. I'll be back to continue the game as soon as I'm able."

And with that, he transformed, enlarging and combining with his jeep module and dumping the two Battle Beasts unceremoniously on the ground, right on the crossroads in the middle of their enemies' settlement. He then transformed back to helicopter mode, ready to return to the Decepticons' ship.

"You can't leave us here!" protested Alligatron, as he and Hardtop Tortoise found themselves suddenly surrounded by their deadly foes, Bighorn Bombsheep, Colonel Bird Flykick, Grizzly Battle Bear, Rocky Rhino Graysharp, and their leader, White Leo the Pirate Lion. "They'll kill us for helping you!"

"That's okay!" called Battletrap. "I'm sure I'll find myself some new guides who are just as good next time!"

And off he went, to Hydrus Four.

Martin

[Shockprowl]

Mar 31, 2019 22:09:37 GMT The Doctor said:

Don't you say bad things about Battletrap.

-Ralph

What?!?! Surely, you cannot be talking about that recent Generations ABOMINATION?!?!

[The Doctor]

It's better than Siege Fkywheels.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

That's somewhat debatable

[Philip Ayres]

Time and a user name change has given this post and the next an odd link!

tmukhub.proboards.com/post/332339/thread

[Philip Ayres]

This post caught my eye when re-reading the first page:

Aug 22, 2018 16:46:57 GMT Grand Moff Muffin said:

So... no mad theories that Overlord was intended to be a new Slamdance then... or that Slamdance should be recoloured as Flywheels?

Martin

A forthcoming battlepack has Slamdance in it. We don't know for sure but good money says it is a Flywheels repaint.

Is Martin prescient?

[The Huff]

I'd say Duo Cons work in the same way that we can do more than one thing at once - it's just on a much higher level.

[Shockprowl]

Apr 1, 2019 7:07:07 GMT The Doctor said:

It's better than Siege Fkywheels.

-Ralph

WHAT. THE ACTUAL. FUCK.


I'm sorry, Doctor, but I cannot ignore that RIDICULOUS statement. You're clearly insane. A loone. A gibbering madman. A gestalt of foolery. A towering inferno of nonsenseness. A 5 star hotel of utter tosh. A glittering awards ceremony of such complete and abstract wrongness that you've been given the Life-time Award for talking Runny Arse Gravy.





BATTLETRAP IS DISAPPOINTED IN YOU....








As... I am....

[The Doctor]

Apr 1, 2019 7:18:39 GMT Philip Ayres said:

That's somewhat debatable

Well it has more play value as the two bits also have robot modes!

-Ralph

[Pinwig]

Apr 1, 2019 7:07:07 GMT The Doctor said:

It's better than Siege Fkywheels.

-Ralph

Goink! What?! Never. Flywheels is fantastic!

[The Doctor]

Flywheels is good. I hope to get one. I just think Battletrap is a better toy.

-Ralph

[Shockprowl]

Apr 1, 2019 21:14:27 GMT The Doctor said:

Flywheels is good. I hope to get one. I just think Battletrap is a better toy.

-Ralph

Battletrap's crying...

[Benn]

Why? Because Ralph likes him? That's harsh, man.

[Shockprowl]

Apr 2, 2019 8:14:24 GMT Benn said:

Why? Because Ralph likes him? That's harsh, man.

HE'S CRYING BECAUSE THE DOCKOTOR LIKES THE FALSE BATTLETRAP! THE LIE! THE GROTESQUE PERVERSION OF WHAT BATTLETRAP SHOULD BE!!!

[Benn]

Things change, man. People change.

Duocons... change.

[The Doctor]

Apr 2, 2019 9:31:29 GMT Shockprowl said:

Apr 2, 2019 8:14:24 GMT Benn said:

Why? Because Ralph likes him? That's harsh, man.

HE'S CRYING BECAUSE THE DOCKOTOR LIKES THE FALSE BATTLETRAP! THE LIE! THE GROTESQUE PERVERSION OF WHAT BATTLETRAP SHOULD BE!!!

But as A TOY the new one has more play value than Flywheels. Does more stuff.

-Ralph

[The Doctor]

Apr 2, 2019 10:52:13 GMT Benn said:

Things change, man. People change.

Duocons... change.

The challenge is in the change.

-Ralph

[Shockprowl]

Apr 2, 2019 11:25:02 GMT The Doctor said:

Apr 2, 2019 9:31:29 GMT Shockprowl said:

HE'S CRYING BECAUSE THE DOCKOTOR LIKES THE FALSE BATTLETRAP! THE LIE! THE GROTESQUE PERVERSION OF WHAT BATTLETRAP SHOULD BE!!!

But as A TOY the new one has more play value than Flywheels. Does more stuff.

-Ralph

NO!!!

[Shockprowl]

Apr 2, 2019 10:52:13 GMT Benn said:

Things change, man. People change.

Duocons... change.

NNNOOOOOOO!!!!!

[Shockprowl]

Apr 2, 2019 11:25:30 GMT The Doctor said:

Apr 2, 2019 10:52:13 GMT Benn said:

Things change, man. People change.

Duocons... change.

The challenge is in the change.

-Ralph

What a load of guff! "The Challenge is in the change"?!?! Pffttt! Pah! Pwwwffff!!! If Ducons 'change' then THEY'RE NOT DUCONS ANYMORE! They're something else! The concept of the Duocon deserves, no, DEMANDS, preservation! So go, Dockotor and Urzu, with your poorly executed mini-powerlinx abomination, and leave us REAL DUOCONS FANS with our anguish...

[primenova]

You mean like Optimus Prime - the cab trailer then roller. Or powermaster cab & trailer & Godbomber

[Shockprowl]

I... don't understand the question...