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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2023 21:37:03 GMT
Printed periodicals are expensive to produce and don't sell big numbers anymore. So the prices go up and circulation drops etc.
It's amazing DWM is still going!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 22, 2023 21:43:31 GMT
Yes, but what I'm saying is they've put the price up by three quid to include a poster, which is usually a freebie when they do them, and a promo comic. Their 'added tat' issues are usually better value than that.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2023 21:56:04 GMT
The extra comic pages will be expensive to produce. Bear in mind they can only do 6 pages of strip in the regular mag these days.
I agree that £11 is madly high. I can sort of see how it costs that though. You're essentially paying £3 for the extra comic.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jun 23, 2023 18:23:47 GMT
I was expecting a bit more than a poster and a promo comic for the £3 price hike on DWM this month. Being a subber it doesn't really affect me, but £11 seems an astronomical price for a newstand magazine. Eleven pounds seems a lot, and yes it is on the order of twice the price of my other usual print magazines. But, given the small size of the potential audience for DWM (comparing it to the aviation-related publications I buy it's potential audience draw is inevitably going to be somewhat smaller I would say), and the fact that there are costs in magazine production that are difficult to reduce below a certain point... I'm not entirely surprised by the large price difference. There are fixed costs that the DWM publishers _have_ to recover for it to be economically viable to publish at all, and the purchaser-based they have to spread that recovery over is likely to be significantly smaller than that of Key Publications can spread theirs over. In the final analysis, it is a very niche publication and is always going to be priced accordingly. Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2023 17:42:59 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 25, 2023 20:02:18 GMT
What are we talking? The main strip stories or the Adrian Salmon series?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2023 20:49:00 GMT
Not clear yet. But if it's like The Daleks it will be All In original backups, main strips and possibly the Salmon stuff
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 25, 2023 21:14:34 GMT
Hmm. I could go for a remastered Kroton, but I didn't buy the Dalek books. Might be an idea as I don't think I can keep the DWM collection indefinitely. There's just not enough space.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2023 21:40:48 GMT
I bought them, and they're fab *ESPECIALLY* the first one.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 25, 2023 21:44:00 GMT
Phil will give us the Booksetc links for the Dalek books that Ralph forgot to get until now.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 25, 2023 22:24:12 GMT
The Doom's day pack in in this month's DWM - fucking dreadful.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2023 23:45:32 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 26, 2023 0:03:03 GMT
What are we talking? The main strip stories or the Adrian Salmon series? Reasonably sized version of the cover I can see Steve Moore, Alan Moore and Steve Dillon on the creators list, that means original backups tardis.fandom.com/wiki/DWM_backup_comic_storiesGrant Morrison is on there, so that's the Planet 4 main strip Adrian Salmon is on there, so the Cyber backups. Looks like a must have
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 26, 2023 8:24:01 GMT
I shall bookmark them for post-TFN. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 26, 2023 8:24:53 GMT
The Doom's day pack in in this month's DWM - fucking dreadful. I liked how it failed to introduce or make clear the premise of the event. -Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 1, 2023 19:25:08 GMT
I found the 1963/64 special in Smiths today, saved the postage on that one.
I also noticed in this month's DWM strip that of all the different shapes and sizes the Terrorkon the Daleks attack could be, it looks an awful lot like Hun-Gurrr.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2023 11:04:05 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2023 12:14:09 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 9, 2023 12:16:13 GMT
Well I'll be. I could think of better stories to do the full illus. for.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 9, 2023 14:13:12 GMT
Makes commercial sense for a £30 HC though.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 12, 2023 23:08:16 GMT
DWM is another publication that has become subject to the 'bung it on a pile' approach to filing in my old bedroom, like 2000AD had, so I spent a few hours today putting everything into order and working out which specials I've got. Again, all drawn together it's a collection that takes up a lot of space. Not as much as tooth, but I'm not sure this is one I can keep in it's entirety. The problem is one of working out a point at which to cut it off. There are over a hundred specials as well as the regular issues.
What is amazing is that the new format relaunch for the Eccleston series in Jan 2005 was issue 351, and we're now nearly at 600. Doesn't seem right somehow.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 13, 2023 8:45:51 GMT
I only keep key issues now and some of the Specials. No room!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 13, 2023 11:10:11 GMT
This is one that would work as a digital archive. I think I'd be happy with the Panini era stuff as proper indexable computer files as opposed to actual print copies. Then I'd keep the Marvel era stuff for nostalgia reasons. I found my UNIT membership card yesterday, the one that you could send away for back in the days of Doctor Who Weekly to decode secret UNIT messages each week. I am UNIT member 1823.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 13, 2023 20:12:13 GMT
As you are a member then you can explain UNIT dating.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 13, 2023 20:13:11 GMT
This is one that would work as a digital archive. I think I'd be happy with the Panini era stuff as proper indexable computer files as opposed to actual print copies. Same. I am mostly a print person but for things like this a digital archive would be good. -Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 13, 2023 20:21:33 GMT
As you are a member then you can explain UNIT dating. -Ralph I can but you don't have the security clearance to know. Geneva say so.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 13, 2023 20:33:23 GMT
I'm not sure I've got it in me to bin the magazines because I've been collecting them since 1979; it's a core thread through my life, but I've been trying to work out a cut off. 236 in Feb 1996 was where Marvel was bought by Panini, during the hype for the movie. The last issue of 1999 was the last one to be published with the Marvel name, 285. But then I did like the new format/design introduced in 2005 when the new series came in in the 350s. Maybe it should be where the old archive series finished. Dunno.
But I think TV Zone and DWB are going first. Big pile of those to sort next.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 13, 2023 20:43:26 GMT
Out of curiosity - does anyone have a digital sub to DWM? What format is it in?
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 13, 2023 22:00:32 GMT
I'm not sure I've got it in me to bin the magazines because I've been collecting them since 1979; it's a core thread through my life, but I've been trying to work out a cut off. I donated my DWM's from the start to 2019 to Oxfam and they used them as a big DW display in a bookshop. Modern issues go to the local Emmeus. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 13, 2023 22:01:15 GMT
Out of curiosity - does anyone have a digital sub to DWM? What format is it in? I did for about 18 months when I was using an iPad a lot several years ago but do not recall the format. -Ralph
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