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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:09:29 GMT
'Powermaster' is a subgroup name not a character. And Torch is clearly part of that subgroup! -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Dec 13, 2018 18:42:42 GMT
Well, that's clearly Bumblebee painted red, and has no name on the listing, and does not transform, so no. Action Masters don't transform and they are Transformers. -Ralph Yeah, but they have names. |
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Post by blueshift on Dec 13, 2018 18:45:36 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer.
He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser
Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 13, 2018 18:50:24 GMT
But in the fiction shown it is clearly meant to be a weapon installation and not a character. This is wisdom. It's not a Powermaster, because it doesn't come with a Nebulan that transforms into its engine. Powermaster is its affiliation, but that doesn't make it a Powermaster. An Autobot shuttlecraft is not necessarily itself an Autobot. A Decepticon base is not necessarily itself a Decepticon. A Pretender shell is not a Pretender. So just being a Powermaster torch doesn't make it a Powermaster. Martin |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 13, 2018 18:51:50 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards. The question isn't whether it's a Transformer, but whether it's a Powermaster. It has no Nebulan, so the answer is no. Martin |
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 13, 2018 18:52:03 GMT
I eventually got it. Its beam did not shred Decepticons. I am insanely jealous. Do you still have it? -Ralph My brother and I got one each from a market (I assume they weren't KOs, but I havent seen the packaging for ages, I believe I till have the card back for at least one). Never saw that ad before though, now I feel I never gave Torch or Torch their proper dues at Transformers. |
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Post by blueshift on Dec 13, 2018 18:52:41 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards. The question isn't whether it's a Transformer, but whether it's a Powermaster. It has no Nebulan, so the answer is no. Martin It has two cylindrical Powermaster partners |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 13, 2018 18:53:17 GMT
OK, Powermaster torch going in next fanfic.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:53:34 GMT
But in the fiction shown it is clearly meant to be a weapon installation and not a character. This is wisdom. It's not a Powermaster, because it doesn't come with a Nebulan that transforms into its engine. Powermaster is its affiliation, but that doesn't make it a Powermaster. An Autobot shuttlecraft is not necessarily itself an Autobot. A Decepticon base is not necessarily itself a Decepticon. A Pretender shell is not a Pretender. So just being a Powermaster torch doesn't make it a Powermaster. Martin Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, but Martin forgets the G2 Powermasters! They did not come with Nebulons! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:53:52 GMT
OK, Powermaster torch going in next fanfic. Martin GOOD MAN. -Ralph |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 13, 2018 18:54:06 GMT
It has two cylindrical Powermaster partners Don't we all. Martin |
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 13, 2018 18:54:17 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards. His block mode is robot mode, see he has a face. Torch/laser is his alt mode obviously. Very few transformers had articulated heads in those days too dont forget. And electronic features. |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:54:21 GMT
I am insanely jealous. Do you still have it? -Ralph My brother and I got one each from a market (I assume they weren't KOs, but I havent seen the packaging for ages, I believe I till have the card back for at least one). Never saw that ad before though, now I feel I never gave Torch or Torch their proper dues at Transformers. NOW IS THEIR TIME. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:54:54 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser EXACTLY. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 18:55:37 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards. His block mode is robot mode, see he has a face. Torch/laser is his alt mode obviously. Very few transformers had articulated heads in those days too dont forget. And electronic features. EXACTLY. TORCH IS A TRUE TRANSFORMER!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 13, 2018 18:56:23 GMT
Matt scrap the Micromaster fanzine, get working with Martin on a Torch comic ASAP!!!
We will bring Torch to the masses.
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Post by blueshift on Dec 13, 2018 18:56:59 GMT
Pretty robot racist of all you guys to assume that just because Torch doesn't have a robot mode he's not a proper Transformer. He clearly has a transformation. You can see him turn from a rectangle into a Decepticon shredding laser Paging Martin to explain to us how Transformers are space robots and so not beholden to our human standards. His block mode is robot mode, see he has a face. Torch/laser is his alt mode obviously. Very few transformers had articulated heads in those days too dont forget. And electronic features. Actually I feel his 'torch mode' is actually his robot mode. He has a Shockwave like monocular head and his very gaze can shred his enemies His alt mode is a mysterious rectangle, standing sentinel over humanity like the monolith from 2001. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 13, 2018 18:57:23 GMT
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, but Martin forgets the G2 Powermasters! They did not come with Nebulons! They were erroneously named as such. As silly as releasing Headmasters with heads that don't come off, or Pretenders with no shells. Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 13, 2018 19:04:48 GMT
Have you lot really spent all day arguing about this nonsense!?
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:07:22 GMT
Matt scrap the Micromaster fanzine, get working with Martin on a Torch comic ASAP!!! We will bring Torch to the masses. THE SENSATIONAL CHARACTER FIND OF 2019! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:08:03 GMT
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, but Martin forgets the G2 Powermasters! They did not come with Nebulons! They were erroneously named as such. As silly as releasing Headmasters with heads that don't come off, or Pretenders with no shells. Martin That does not change the facts! They are Powermasters!!! Officially!!! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:09:02 GMT
His block mode is robot mode, see he has a face. Torch/laser is his alt mode obviously. Very few transformers had articulated heads in those days too dont forget. And electronic features. Actually I feel his 'torch mode' is actually his robot mode. He has a Shockwave like monocular head and his very gaze can shred his enemies His alt mode is a mysterious rectangle, standing sentinel over humanity like the monolith from 2001. YES. AND HIS ARCH ENEMY IS VIOLIN JUGGLER!!! -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:09:42 GMT
Have you lot really spent all day arguing about this nonsense!? I think you will find we are proving that Torch is a POWERMASTERS TRANSFORMER. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:13:14 GMT
When Torch activates his beam of death from his moncoular eye he taps the energy from the very sun itself and the sky goes dark as an eclipse of justice crosses the sky!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 19:30:48 GMT
Total
Onslaught of
Righteous
Charged
Hyperpower
"It's Torchin' time, Decepticreeps!"
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 13, 2018 19:32:41 GMT
Matt scrap the Micromaster fanzine, get working with Martin on a Torch comic ASAP!!! We will bring Torch to the masses. No, no, no, we've been through this already. It's Martin IN a torch. |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2018 21:05:08 GMT
Can you not hear Torch powering up? He is ready. Waiting.
WHUM.
WHUM.
WHUM.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 13, 2018 22:13:20 GMT
Well, you've convinced me, Doc'.
Powermaster Torch transforms darkness into LIGHT....
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Post by KnightBeat on Dec 13, 2018 22:34:20 GMT
I've got the torch! I got it for Christmmmmmaaaaassss, yeah!
Torch comes with 2 ever-ready batteries, making it the first dual-engine G1 Powermaster to be released in the UK (take that, Overlord!).
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 13, 2018 22:35:36 GMT
HE'S GOT THE TORCH! HE'S GOT THE POWER!!!
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