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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 6, 2020 22:49:52 GMT
EVERYTHING Earthrise w3 has been out 1 month +..... Bar the deluxe.
Mine are in the post today
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Post by Benn on Nov 6, 2020 23:46:52 GMT
What.
I’m confused. What was wave 2 then?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 6, 2020 23:49:39 GMT
Needs an update but .... Generations 2020
War For Cybertron: Earthrise BATTLEMASTERSWave 1WFC-E1 E7146 Battlemaster Soundbarrier WFC-E2 E8251 Smashdown (Siege repack) Wave 2 US ReleasedWFC-E13 E7148 Slitherfang WFC-E14 E8253 Rung (EAN: 5010993660155) (Siege repack) Wave 4 October 1st WFC-E39 E7247 Decepticon Doublecrosser MICROMASTERSWave 1WFC-E3 E7149 Hot Rod Patrol Big Daddy Daddy-O & Trip Up WFC-E4 E7150 Micormaster Military Patrol Bombshock & Decepticon Growl Wave 2 US Released 20200808 news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/08/transformers-wfc-earthrise-micromasters-wave-2-found-at-us-retail-416853 WFC-E15 E7152 Race Track Patrol: Ground Hog & Roller Force WFC-E16 E7153 Astro Squad Autobot Blast Master & Fuzer Wave 3 US Released 20200810 news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/10/transformers-earthrise-micro-masters-direct-hit-power-punch-battle-squad-found-at-us-retail-416914 WFC-E40 E9838 Battle Squad: Direct-Hit & Power Punch (EAN # 5010993704408 Siege Repack) www.acdd.com/manufacturers/hasbro/tran-gen-wfc-e-micro-battle-squad-8.htmlKnown Retool E???? WFC-S??? Monster Truck Patrol: Hydraulic & Big Hauler - sculpts used for WSC-S60 Ricon & Irontread DELUXEWave 1 - UK RELEASED Smyths 2020?? ?? WFC-E6 E7155 Cliffjumper WFC-E7 E7156 Wheeljack WFC-E5 E7154 Hoist WFC-E8 E7157 Ironworks Wave 2WFC-E17 E7159 Arcee WFC-E18 E7161 Airwave Modulator WFC-E19 E7158 Quintesson Alicon - UK RELEASED Smyths 20200917WFC-E20 E8206 Smokescreen - UK RELEASED Smyths 20200907Wave 3WFC-E34 E8207 Trailbreaker WFC-E35 E7160 Fast Track WFC-E36 E8208 Sunstreaker WFC-E37 E8209 Deluxe Runamuck Wave 4?WFC-E41 E?? ?? Runabout VOYAGERWave 1 - UK RELEASED 20200303 SmythsWFC-E9 E7162 Starscream Earth WFC-E10 E7164 Grapple Wave 2 - UK RELEASED 20200904WFC-E21 E7313 Snapdragon Wave 3WFC-E22 E7165 Quintesson - UK RELEASED 20200907 SmythsWFC-E38 E8204 Megatron LEADERWave 1 - UK RELEASED 20200303 SmythsWFC-E10 E7166 Optimus Prime with Trailer WFC-E11 E7167 Astrotrain (Siege Repack) Wave 2 - UK RELEASED 20200723 SmythsWFC-E23 E8205 Doubledealer COMMANDERWFC-E24 E7671 Sky Lynx - UK RELEASED 20200619 SmythsTITANWFC-E25 E7672 Scorponok - UK RELEASED 20200805 Smyths |
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Post by Benn on Nov 7, 2020 0:11:34 GMT
Coolness. I’d forgotten most of W2 existed then...
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 7, 2020 9:22:58 GMT
Where there only 2 new Leaders?
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 7, 2020 9:27:19 GMT
EVERYTHING Earthrise w3 has been out 1 month +..... Bar the deluxe. Yeah but you know what I mean though. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 7, 2020 9:52:00 GMT
Where there only 2 new Leaders? -Ralph Yes. Considerable evidence suggests Astrotrain was a Earthrise Leader pulled forward to Siege and the way things have played out suggest there may well have been a fourth Wave and Leader. The somewhat substantiated Kingdom rumours suggest 4 Leaders for that line. Two of those suggest they may have been originally planned for Earthrise, one is an Earthrise reissue leaving BW Megatron as the only new Beast Leader |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 7, 2020 10:38:09 GMT
Hmmm. I can't see how Astrotrain was meant for ER. It has the 'battle damage' deco and styling of Siege.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 7, 2020 12:42:29 GMT
It could have been a deco change when he was reassigned. He definitely was originally ER wave 1 - his ER product code predates the Siege one and is part of the wave 1 number set, right next to Prime. Siege Astrotrain didn't exist on Hasbro's product lists until after ER wave 3 was done; he's the next code number after Runamuck.
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Post by Toph on Nov 7, 2020 12:46:25 GMT
It also transforms into a steam engine, which are notoriously absent from hyper advanced alien societies capable of interstellar travel.
ER Hoist also has a damage deco.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 10, 2020 18:35:47 GMT
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2020 18:43:17 GMT
I HAVE WAVE TWO I HAVE WAVE TWO
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2020 18:48:37 GMT
If I hadn't gotten Bluestreak already, Smokescreen would be the best.
But he's not new anymore, and compaired to Bluestreak, he has a really weird and not pleasant head. But much better deco overall.
If Airwave had been wave one, I'd have been much more impressed with the modulators. He leaves a much better impression than Ironworks. Much more clever use of it's parts.
Arcee... Arcee is a thing that exists.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 12, 2020 18:51:53 GMT
...and compaired to Bluestreak, he has a really weird and not pleasant head. Ahhh HAAA! You see?!?! It is NOT that easy t- Ohhh |
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2020 18:53:31 GMT
I can't see Arcee as a toy that will weather time well, for anyone who does more than stand her on a shelf. She'll break in a half dozen places.
She's very badly designed on all levels.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 12, 2020 19:28:18 GMT
he has a really weird and not pleasant head. This is very true. That animation model head Smokescreen has in his toy forms now makes him look like he's got a massive double chin wobbling under his face. It's not a good look for a debonair Autobot like him. I haven't popped me Prowl out yet, but I'm definitely thinking this mould looks best on Bluestreak. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2020 19:28:36 GMT
If Airwave had been wave one, I'd have been much more impressed with the modulators. He leaves a much better impression than Ironworks. Much more clever use of it's parts. Superb toy. Tank mode in the instructions is rubbish, forget that, there's a far better one which is a modification of the carrier mode and makes use of a few features on the toy not used in other modes. |
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Post by Toph on Nov 12, 2020 23:43:55 GMT
I'm probably never going to transform him again. I have zero affinity for weaponizers and modulators, and this hasn't changed that. He's more clever thn Ironworks, but still suffers all the flaws of his predecessors.
After a tiny few transformations, most of my weaponizers legs fall off when I pick them up.
And just from moving them a couple times, airwave's arms are starting to become loose.
If Arcee wasn't complete trash, and the alicon wasn't the lasiest TF in years, he'd be the second least favorite of ER and the bottom of wave two.
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Post by Toph on Nov 13, 2020 4:48:11 GMT
Okay so fiddling with airwave more and transforming him despite the extreme risks of utterly ruining it like I have all my weaponizers, I think I figured out why modulators completely fail to interest me.
They need more than just two molds to be interesting to me.
It's like if Armada went "And here we have a whole new type of transformer, that introduces a bold new type of play, never seen before! Minicons!" and then only make two sets.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 13, 2020 7:47:26 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 13, 2020 10:53:53 GMT
Ohhh wow. Nostalgasm.
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Post by Jim on Nov 13, 2020 14:02:59 GMT
I've been really enjoying seeing my Earthrise boys all stood together  |
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Post by Stomski on Nov 13, 2020 14:15:37 GMT
It's like Cliffjumper is Smokescreen's son.
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Post by Jim on Nov 13, 2020 14:29:24 GMT
It's like Cliffjumper is Smokescreen's son. One of the things I like about the WFC toys is that they're quite posable and relatively compact, so you can get more naturalistic group poses out of them, like a bunch of guys awkwardly posing for a photo. Much harder to do with more kibbly iterations of the same characters! |
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Post by Toph on Nov 13, 2020 16:55:57 GMT
My Ironhide and Prowl came in today.
Ironhide is almost completely and improvement over Siege Ironhide.
Mt only complaint (aside from the feet ruining the van mode), is that after retooling almost every single piece of him, they didn't fix the problem that virtually ruins the first toy- not a single hinged panel has a pin to hold it in place, and they fall off if you look at it funny.
Prowl is, like the other uses of the mold, lovely. Deco needs reprolabel help, and is the first one of the three I feel this.
Head is leaps better than Smokescreen's ugly mug, but not nearly as nice as Bluestreak's.
Wish they'd just used that head for all three.
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Post by Toph on Nov 14, 2020 9:21:28 GMT
Mold's flaws aside, I absolutely love Ironhide in ways that the siege version fell flat.
It is the quintessential Ironhide, and finally dethrones the Botcon 2005 DiE Ironhide as the best Ironhide.
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Post by Benn on Nov 14, 2020 9:51:05 GMT
I'm curious to see who'll sit better for me, ER Ironhide or Siege Crosshairs.
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Post by Toph on Nov 14, 2020 10:26:47 GMT
Okay therecs a juxtaposition between Ironhide and Arcee, that Ironhide suceeds where Arcee completely fails.
Both of them a significant portion of their vehicle mode is removed.
But Ironhide's is a fairly complex piece that converts into both a convincing riot shield (one of the better such pieces) that can be used as a jabbing weapon, and a believable hoverboard, and could be repurposed into a gurney. And it can also be stored on his back without any detriment to the robot.
Arcee, despite the lack of any complexity in any way with the main toy, the removed part is just the rear half of the car. It doesn't convert. They say it's a hoverboard, but it makes zero effort to look like one.
It would actually make one of the better and more convincing shields, but there's no way to mount it as such. It "folds up" to stow on her back, but makes her ungainly and is borderline incapable of supporting herself with it on.
This is a long winded way of saying that with as little effort as they put into Arcee, they could have at least had the two thirds of the vehicle that gets removed actually do something.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 14, 2020 14:21:18 GMT
I'm curious to see who'll sit better for me, ER Ironhide or Siege Crosshairs. Have you been training them? Like with chocolate buttons? |
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Post by Benn on Nov 14, 2020 14:35:36 GMT
I'm curious to see who'll sit better for me, ER Ironhide or Siege Crosshairs. Have you been training them? Like with chocolate buttons? For me, with me? No, there's no rescuing that sentence... |
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