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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2020 9:08:09 GMT
This is the point where all the people with massive third party legends collections of finely detailed and highly accurate characters go, "Yay! thanks Hasbro."*
Unless - this is designed to fold out into a playset recreating the main areas of the Sunbow Ark at Deluxe scale. Hasbro have made a real thing about how Generations now is in scale with itself, so it seems mad to release a playset that will effectively only work with three Core class toys. However, as said before, the existence of the Core class seems to be for this, in the same way the previous Legends class was for Metroplex.
*This of course means we get the pleasure of hounding Shockprowl until he buys this.
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Post by Benn on Sept 6, 2020 9:11:20 GMT
I don't see how he can't. The ultimate 84-85 toy.
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2020 10:09:32 GMT
Yeah, I think this is a ship that converts to playset.
Though for some reason with absolutely nothing to back it, half of TFW seem convinced it transforms into The Last Autobot.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2020 10:15:09 GMT
Probably just the assumption that anything in Transformers has to have a robot mode. This would work a lot better if it didn't. What it needs to do is transform into a base; unlike something like the Vintage Falcon where you can take outer panels off to reveal the rooms inside, this needs a full blown fold out transform to create the Autobot Earth HQ. That way it's still a transformer even if it isn't a robot.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 6, 2020 10:40:42 GMT
Well I guess Hasbro have seen how well a set of shitty little stairs have sold in the Star Wars Black Series line under the rather flimsy guise of being a "Carbon Freeze Playset", so they figured they'd give it a shot in Transformers also.
And I'm so glad they have! As I've been complaining about the other Titans, none of them - with the possible exception of Trypticon - really do a decent base mode. Sure, Omega has the little train track, but his body's an afterthought and the tank doesn't really go around the tracks. What this line has been missing is bases with gimmicks, so maybe that's what this'll give us. Or it'll just be an acceptably-scaled diorama. Who knows.
Of course this won't *properly* be the Ark unless it comes with Auntie and some Guardian droids. But it won't. So let's hope some 3Ps can look past giving us yet more Dinobots but in scale with the Ark this time so we can recreate that scene where Wheeljack builds them, and give us something else instead...
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Post by The Huff on Sept 6, 2020 11:00:36 GMT
And if we feel it HAS to include a robot mode of some sort, perhaps the Teletran 1 unit could have a robot mode.
(Hasbro did hint at someone transforming when they never did originally).
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2020 11:02:36 GMT
It will take more than some random guy posting indistinct pics with marker pen scribbles to convince me this exists.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2020 11:22:15 GMT
If the Ark is a non-robot playset, then I personally want the Axalon next.
Opens up into a Bridge playset, and comes with micromaster (or smaller) scaled set of maximals. And then you can recreate Season 3 type set ups with G1 crew guest stars.
(I guess I am never going to get over wanting a BW set that's in scale with G1 classics.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2020 18:19:16 GMT
Listening to the RFC news update on this has made me realise something. They said the early rumours about this claimed the teletraan one unit turns into a robot, not the whole ship, which was a rumour that then became the Ark has a detachable shuttle based on one from Beast Wars, which turns into a robot. However, if you look at the image we have, you can see the teletraan console and the blob in the bottom right are the same piece. The blue bits on the blob that look like a parrot - one is on the side of teletraan 1, and the two pointy spikes at the top are on both pieces. So - transforming Ark with removable shuttle that turns into teletraan 1 for the playset?
I also see Kapow have posted this on their FB, which gives it further endorsement. Given they are privy to knowing what's coming next year from their meetings with Hasbro, they aren't going to put something like that up if it's a fake.
I can see Habsro thinking, we've run out of figures to do at this price point and Star Wars fans clamor for playsets, so let's give it a punt with Transformers and see what happens. If it works, they've got the option to do a lot more like this.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 6, 2020 19:48:45 GMT
It's going to be a reworked Fort Max with a Teletraan 1 shuttle/head.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 6, 2020 20:56:32 GMT
This is the point where all the people with massive third party legends collections of finely detailed and highly accurate characters go, "Yay! thanks Hasbro."* Unless - this is designed to fold out into a playset recreating the main areas of the Sunbow Ark at Deluxe scale. Hasbro have made a real thing about how Generations now is in scale with itself, so it seems mad to release a playset that will effectively only work with three Core class toys. However, as said before, the existence of the Core class seems to be for this, in the same way the previous Legends class was for Metroplex.i *This of course means we get the pleasure of hounding Shockprowl until he buys this. What. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 6, 2020 20:57:03 GMT
I don't see how he can't. The ultimate 84-85 toy. No.. NO! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 6, 2020 20:58:53 GMT
Yeah, I think this is a ship that converts to playset. NNOOOO!!! no not playsets.... |
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Post by The Huff on Sept 6, 2020 21:07:21 GMT
The original 84 G1 toys are small (smaller than we sometimes remember them being) , so hoping it will scale nicely with those too.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2020 21:08:29 GMT
Look, chum. You're the one with the 3P legends scale collection. Of ALL Hubbers, you're the one who MOST needs to buy this. It's a PLAYSET (tick) suited to all your diddy toys (tick). This is an essential Shockprowl purchase.
Tonight ends the Jetfire hounding and begins... THE ARK HOUNDING!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 6, 2020 21:14:36 GMT
Look, chum. You're the one with the 3P legends scale collection. Of ALL Hubbers, you're the one who MOST needs to buy this. It's a PLAYSET (tick) suited to all your diddy toys (tick). This is an essential Shockprowl purchase. Tonight ends the Jetfire hounding and begins... THE ARK HOUNDING! I WILL RESIST!!!! I... w- will... NO! I WILL! I WILL RESIST!!! oh dear God..... |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2020 21:16:44 GMT
If this Ark exits just imagine if it just a hallway (like the Tantive IV playset) or you need to buy multiples to make the full thing (like the carbon freezing chamber playset).
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
You, sir, are up shit creek without a paddle. |
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Post by Llama God on Sept 7, 2020 6:57:11 GMT
If this Ark exits just imagine if it just a hallway (like the Tantive IV playset) or you need to buy multiples to make the full thing (like the carbon freezing chamber playset). I'm not sure that the Transformers fandom has proven itself to be quite as big as bunch of suckers as the Star Wars fandom has done for that to happen. Not quite yet, anyway. Give it a couple of years... |
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Post by Slack on Sept 7, 2020 11:26:16 GMT
I'm already there :-D
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Post by Jim on Sept 7, 2020 12:53:28 GMT
I’ve always assumed that the Star Wars fandom is an order of magnitude bigger than the Transformers one, and so market conditions favour that kind of offering. They can afford the risk more.
In other words, in absolute terms there are many more suckers in the Star Wars fandom...
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 8, 2020 6:30:18 GMT
You, sir, are up shit creek without a paddle. We'll see... We'll see. It ain't bought 'till the Fat Lady sings. AND I DON'T HEAR NO FAT LADY!!! I... I am very uncertain if I want to go down this dark dark road. The concept is intriguing, but what of the expense...? I'm going to need pictures, and, frankly, this is going to have to be AMAZING. I have lots of stuff I need to spend money on. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 8, 2020 8:01:09 GMT
Are you calling Auntie fat? Risky.
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Post by Benn on Sept 8, 2020 9:32:02 GMT
Autobot Headquarters... the beloved home of all your most cherished 84 - 85 characters...
Would you make Prowl homeless, sir?!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 8, 2020 16:11:25 GMT
Autobot Headquarters... the beloved home of all your most cherished 84 - 85 characters... Would you make Prowl homeless, sir?! DAMN YOU!!! YOU ARE NOT A FAT LADY!!!! |
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Post by Toph on Sept 8, 2020 16:26:44 GMT
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE TITAN WE NEED!
The Carwash of Doom!
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 8, 2020 16:28:57 GMT
Clearly what happens now is we get all the Titans over again in Shattered Glass colours.
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Post by Toph on Sept 8, 2020 16:30:34 GMT
Well that'd save me about a thousand bucks!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 8, 2020 16:31:46 GMT
Clearly what happens now is we get all the Titans over again in Shattered Glass colours. No one expected the return of Shattered Glass in 2020. -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Sept 8, 2020 16:54:49 GMT
I blame the wiki.
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