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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 27, 2020 11:23:44 GMT
No you're not. Most Titans have THREE modes. Ark, Last Autobot, Playset.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 27, 2020 11:26:10 GMT
But as has been discussed, the fact it transforms will substanially diminish the playsetyness. Omega is the only base I need anyway. I'm safe!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 27, 2020 11:34:26 GMT
Safe. Yes. As safe as ceilings.
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Post by The Huff on Sept 27, 2020 12:06:13 GMT
I wonder if this rumoured Teletran One/Mainframe robot will become the head?
Bonus points if Chip Chase is also included as a Titan Master.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 27, 2020 12:37:14 GMT
I'd say that's a good shout. That's the current form for these things, and it looks to me from the picture that the forearms probably fold into the space where the head is in ship mode.
I tend not to like things that aren't true to the originals, but I really like this idea for some reason. Of course the Ark doesn't transform, it's a bloody spaceship, but...
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Post by Llama God on Sept 27, 2020 13:08:25 GMT
You excite me, sir, you excite me. I hear that a lot. |
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Post by The Huff on Sept 27, 2020 13:11:19 GMT
It would make sense too as Teletran 1 would BE the Ark robot. It's AI controlling the robot/ship.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 27, 2020 13:12:24 GMT
I tend not to like things that aren't true to the originals, but I really like this idea for some reason. Of course the Ark doesn't transform, it's a bloody spaceship, but... Yeah, it doesn't match up with the original stories, but I like that they're doing something new and unexpected, rather than just rolling out another Metroplex or something. Much as I would have loved an orange Metroplex for Autobot City, this is much more interesting. As to spaceships not having robot modes, I'd usually agree with you, but the idea's slowly gaining traction with me. After all, since Transformers are sentient machines, why wouldn't the machines they use and interact with themselves not also be sentient? Certainly IDW 1.0 started going down this route with the colony Titans, and now IDW 2.0 is running with it, with not only Titans but I'm fairly sure that most of the spaceships seen so far have a robotic alt mode. So it certainly fits in with current thinking... |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 27, 2020 15:08:00 GMT
After all, since Transformers are sentient machines, why wouldn't the machines they use and interact with themselves not also be sentient? Why does being sentient have to equate with having a humanoid form? Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 27, 2020 15:10:37 GMT
Tis a good point, but this brings me back to the issue of the rampformers. If everything is sentient, including the tools we use, there are going to be one hell of a lot of union disputes.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 27, 2020 15:13:44 GMT
Ravage, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, Ratbat, Ramhorn, Steeljaw, Overkill, Slugfest, Grand Slam, Raindance, Beastbox, Squawktalk, Sky Lynx, Trypticon - sentient.
Guardian units - not sentient.
Action Master partners...?
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 27, 2020 17:28:52 GMT
Safe. Yes. As safe as ceilings. You monster! You're only upset 'cos you can't torment me into buying a ridiculously large toy! |
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Post by The Huff on Sept 27, 2020 17:33:36 GMT
Ravage, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, Ratbat, Ramhorn, Steeljaw, Overkill, Slugfest, Grand Slam, Raindance, Beastbox, Squawktalk, Sky Lynx, Trypticon - sentient. Guardian units - not sentient. Action Master partners...? Martin That's where it's all a bit blurry. Jackpot's bird? Yes. Skyfall's rhino? Yes. Mainframe's little robot buddy? Yes. Jazz's skateboard or Blaster's backpack? Why not? But then, what about the vehicles? And if the vehicles can be alive, then what about the vehicles that have a smaller vehicle that can detach? I guess the answer is in the tagine 'the action is alive!' So are the explosions alive too? (Help!) |
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Post by Toph on Sept 27, 2020 17:35:07 GMT
Transformers who turn into spaceships have been around since the beginning.
And I honestly think Metroplex and Trypticon would be better served with starship modes rather than both having two base modes.
Concerning the ark, I personally only accept the ark transforming into Omega Supreme, if it has to be an established character.
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Post by Toph on Sept 27, 2020 18:01:04 GMT
After all, since Transformers are sentient machines, why wouldn't the machines they use and interact with themselves not also be sentient? Why does being sentient have to equate with having a humanoid form? Martin Tis a good point, but this brings me back to the issue of the rampformers. If everything is sentient, including the tools we use, there are going to be one hell of a lot of union disputes. Ravage, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, Ratbat, Ramhorn, Steeljaw, Overkill, Slugfest, Grand Slam, Raindance, Beastbox, Squawktalk, Sky Lynx, Trypticon - sentient. Guardian units - not sentient. Action Master partners...? Martin Ravage, Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, Ratbat, Ramhorn, Steeljaw, Overkill, Slugfest, Grand Slam, Raindance, Beastbox, Squawktalk, Sky Lynx, Trypticon - sentient. Guardian units - not sentient. Action Master partners...? Martin That's where it's all a bit blurry. Jackpot's bird? Yes. Skyfall's rhino? Yes. Mainframe's little robot buddy? Yes. Jazz's skateboard or Blaster's backpack? Why not? But then, what about the vehicles? And if the vehicles can be alive, then what about the vehicles that have a smaller vehicle that can detach? I guess the answer is in the tagine 'the action is alive!' So are the explosions alive too? (Help!) I found a couple statements on the wiki the other day. The way two seperate non-TFs view transformers, and what seperates them from other robotic life forms. Transformers are energy beings housed in, and piloting machines. Looking at it like that changed everything for me, particularly when it comes to stuff like this. And when you approach this with that viewpoint, it parallels the difference between us, a mouse, IBM's Watson, and a car. We of course are an intelligent, emotional, sentient life form. Watson mirrors us in a lot of ways. But we just inherently know it isn't sentient, nor alive. We can build a new one if it breaks. But that pet mouse, even though it's also (supposedly) not sentient or not intellegent, is one unique individual being in the universe, and when it's gone... It's gone forever. There will be more mice, but they won't be that mouse. That mouse is far more like us than Watson is. Then you have a "car." It's very complicated, sometimes even somewhat intellegent (depending on HOW complicated). We can grow as emotionally attached to our cars as we do our pets. But the car is still just a tool. Even when it can talk (the Enterprise for example), it's still no less a tool than a hammer. |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 27, 2020 18:05:51 GMT
Safe. Yes. As safe as ceilings. You monster! You're only upset 'cos you can't torment me into buying ridiculously large toy! No, but I can torment you about stepping through the floor. That's much more fun. |
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Post by Benn on Sept 27, 2020 18:16:59 GMT
Wouldn't have happened if there had been a Siege Jetfire on hand.
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Post by Toph on Sept 27, 2020 18:31:16 GMT
 Oh look, Darling. Ian's come to visit. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 27, 2020 20:13:31 GMT
HHHHAAAAAA!!!!
Yep. Swap out those dudes for a nine year old playing on a ninetendo switch minding its own business and you're spot on.
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Post by blueshift on Feb 8, 2021 22:37:00 GMT
Course they won't do that. They're not going to release something that doesn't transform. Like they'd never do an Ark, because it doesn't transform. Yeah but this new Ark does transform. I was thinking more honest to god old school playset so they can focus on getting it right and not have to worry about a robot mode. Do we know what the Ark transforms into? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2021 22:39:43 GMT
The Last Autobot/Vector Prime He's in the background of this Hasbro Promo picture: |
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Post by The Huff on Feb 8, 2021 23:04:47 GMT
Gah! Now that picture of Primal looks like he's just had his chest sliced off in battle!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2021 23:53:52 GMT
Gah! Now that picture of Primal looks like he's just had his chest sliced off in battle! Weaponised with the cancelled Catbone Fossiliser |
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Post by Toph on Feb 9, 2021 0:04:28 GMT
Gah! Now that picture of Primal looks like he's just had his chest sliced off in battle! Weaponised with the cancelled Catbone Fossiliser A weaponizer that he couldn't possibly use! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 9, 2021 7:49:31 GMT
Weaponised with the cancelled Catbone Fossiliser A weaponizer that he couldn't possibly use! THE BOTMANITY! |
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Post by The Huff on Feb 9, 2021 9:33:15 GMT
Gah! Now that picture of Primal looks like he's just had his chest sliced off in battle! Weaponised with the cancelled Catbone Fossiliser I knew it was a Fossiliser - bit with the red underneath it doesn't look pleasant. |
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Post by Nigel on Mar 31, 2021 18:57:10 GMT
Seeing as lots of fairly obscure characters and concepts have had new versions in Generations over the last few years, I think they should do the Armoured Convoy scaled to seat Leader Optimus Prime in the cab. That should be about Titan-sized, yes?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 7, 2021 17:38:26 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 7, 2021 18:32:50 GMT
Yassss!!!
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 7, 2021 18:32:52 GMT
Mainframe!
The Arks pretty much as expected. No complaints at that. If anything a little surprised, as it seemed like there were plenty of ways to screw it up.
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