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Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2020 19:44:00 GMT
The Ark was also featured on the ER key art and no toy there. I would love a giant Ark but I can't see it happening. DESTROYER OF DREAMS.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 19:47:14 GMT
Evidence A: The Ark did not turn into a robot in Sunbow. Evidence B: The cardboard bits of Teletraan-1 in W*NC.
That's all we'll get.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2020 19:50:16 GMT
I know, I know. I'm hoping for Metroplex to be honest. I'd say he doesn't fit with the Kingdom theme, but hey, Scorponok doesn't really go with the Earthrise theme either.
but.
We can dream. One day, there will be an Ark. YOU WILL NOT CRUSH MY DREAMS.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 20:21:21 GMT
There was an Ark toy. In DOTM.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 16, 2020 20:34:37 GMT
There's one in Cyberverse that wraps round Optimus too. I also have my big SDCC cardboard one.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 20:41:26 GMT
I never did get round to getting that Ark Prime before it vanished. Oh well.
Ralph covets your cardboard SDCC Ark.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jul 16, 2020 20:48:23 GMT
In hindsight I am really glad they didn't hold off on Titan Scorponok until Kingdom to fit the beast theme, because wow three letdowns in one go!
It'd be the wrong Scorponok (you know they wouldn't do two Scorponoks who are different characters in the same year), in the wrong size.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 20:57:58 GMT
Thing is, if this is real, I find myself much more interested in Kingdom than Earthrise and the latter just got started!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 16, 2020 21:56:35 GMT
I struggle with the idea of BW updates. Several so far have been poor (BWX, Universe2) or Fragile (T30) The only one I really like was POTP OpOp and that I had some issues with. I've come round to the BWX leaders over time though. The RM versions were nice but essentially the originals downsized.
Then there's that the originals are just so good....
I'll need to see the new ones to be sure. But I can see Tigatron and Airazor both of whom would be hard to resist even if they were poo.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 16, 2020 21:58:46 GMT
The only BW update I have is T30 Rhinox and he's not bad. I missed the boat on Throne of the Primes.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 16, 2020 22:04:24 GMT
Rhinox has rubber parts, not good.
We will find you a Throne. They pop up regularly, IDToys had some not long ago.
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Post by Toph on Jul 17, 2020 5:51:45 GMT
Netflix confirmed the name!
It's humorous that so many people on tfw are whining about how after 13 solid years of non-stop G1 updates (which is double the length of actual g1), that "g1 is over forever!" because half of one year's toys will be dedicated to non-g1, while G1 still continues across three seperate lines, including the line they're moaning about.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 17, 2020 8:11:20 GMT
What's that? The Real Transformers Fans are upset? Extraordinary.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 17, 2020 8:42:46 GMT
G1 remakes haven't stopped. As Toph points out they continue: Generations, Cyberverse, Masterpiece, Selects, Tomy Takara Mall, etc.
Heck, more G1 remake toys have been leaked this very day!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 17, 2020 8:46:34 GMT
I am amused that Netflix have revealed Chapter 3 before Chapter 1 even airs!
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Jul 17, 2020 8:58:20 GMT
Sometimes it's worth popping into TFW to see the tears!
I can't quite imagine feeling that angry / entitled about toys. The closest I get to feeling angry in this hobby is when there's something like those MP Arcee photos going on.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 17, 2020 9:00:16 GMT
How are they going to tie this up in the narrative they're creating? In Earthrise we have modern Earth vehicle modes, yet originally BW was set far in the past. If Netflix are weaving an ongoing story through the three parts of the trilogy its going to need a different origin for the beasts.
Which I suppose might get over the scale problem given the BW characters are supposed to be tiny compared to the G1s.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 17, 2020 9:00:16 GMT
There is such a glut of product, I don't have the time (and especially the money) to get everything I want anyway!
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on Jul 17, 2020 9:56:58 GMT
How are they going to tie this up in the narrative they're creating? In Earthrise we have modern Earth vehicle modes, yet originally BW was set far in the past. If Netflix are weaving an ongoing story through the three parts of the trilogy its going to need a different origin for the beasts. Which I suppose might get over the scale problem given the BW characters are supposed to be tiny compared to the G1s. Maybe they'll go the IDW route and repurpose the Beast-era characters to be the minions of Unicron, or something? Or maybe they just couldn't be bothered thinking it through any further, and actually didn't have as good a game plan as they were claiming they did. (See also: PottoP.) Anyway, need I say I am excited by this? Given my previous comments about Transformers being mostly all G1, all the time, probably not. But I am excited by this. On the inside. On the outside I am more looking forward to maybe sleeping more than three hours at a go one day in the future...
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Post by The Huff on Jul 17, 2020 9:57:46 GMT
I still think of Beast wars as G1. Characters from the same G1 continuity.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 17, 2020 10:05:39 GMT
That's how they found the loophole and justified this!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 17, 2020 10:23:30 GMT
Ok so.... Let's assume for a moment the poster is legit and the new characters have been identified rightAs we know most things get at least one repaint/remould. What can we make from this lot, assuming they all have their original Beast forms?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 17, 2020 10:26:54 GMT
Galvatron
Optimus Primal Cheetor - Beast Wars Rodimus/ Tigatron - a Razorclaw - leaning into Fun Pub Rhinox Airazor - Dinobot - Grimlock
BW Megatron - Waspinator - Buzzsaw Terrorsaur - Swoop Blackarachnia - Tarantulas Scorponok -
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 17, 2020 10:33:43 GMT
THERE MUST BE AN OWL PROWL IN KINGDOM!!!
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Post by Toph on Jul 17, 2020 14:48:39 GMT
(Swiping and altering Andu's list)
Galvatron- Optimus Prime- Bumblebee-
Optimus Primal- Cheetor- Tigatron, Shadowpanther Rhinox- Reshelled and retooled into Studio Slag Airazor Dinobot- reshelled and retooled into Studio Grimlock, repaint into BW Grimlock
BW Megatron- Stand Alone Waspinator- Buzzsaw, Bugly Terrorsaur- reshelled and retooled into Studio Swoop (flip it upside down), repaint into Lazorbeak/Hydra Blackarachnia- Tarantulas- Scorponok-
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 17, 2020 14:53:45 GMT
THERE MUST BE AN OWL PROWL IN KINGDOM!!! That would be nice though I will be pleasantly surprised if non-show BW characters are in the line. -Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jul 19, 2020 22:06:15 GMT
Okay so, we know Optimus Prime will be part of this, but doesn't turn up in the list in any meaningful way. The leaker says that no bw character is the commander it titan class. Speculation based on that tiny low res poster, people are starting to think that's PMOP. I speculate that Powermaster Optimus Prime will be the commander class.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 19, 2020 22:20:10 GMT
Oh I hope not. We've done all that. Enough Primes. Enough!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 19, 2020 22:25:12 GMT
Okay so, we know Optimus Prime will be part of this, but doesn't turn up in the list in any meaningful way. The leaker says that no bw character is the commander it titan class. Speculation based on that tiny low res poster, people are starting to think that's PMOP. I speculate that Powermaster Optimus Prime will be the commander class. IIRC The leaker says the Earthrise Prime is rereleased in Kingdom. Will try to find you a link in the morning
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 19, 2020 22:25:53 GMT
Oh I hope not. We've done all that. Enough Primes. Enough! They will never stop making Primes! Never! -Ralph
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