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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2020 14:56:20 GMT
I now see from the thread that the last cinema film I saw was Parasite in February. Not a good one to finish on.
Six months without the cinema. Jings.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 11, 2020 17:36:46 GMT
Still no cinemas open in central Cardiff that I am aware of. Cineworld remains shut. Vue claims it will reopen on 26 August, with tickets going on sale tomorrow. If there's anything good on at quiet times of the day I will be booking time off work to treat myself.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2020 17:40:04 GMT
I just don't think I'd be able to relax in a cinema at the moment. We are very close to Oldham, now the most infectious place in Englandland which may be only days away from a Leicester-type full lockdown (source: The Guardian today. Folk travel between the two areas frequently. When it is safe to do so, cinema trips will resume...but sadly not for a while yet. -Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 11, 2020 17:45:36 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 16, 2020 16:12:56 GMT
I got an email from Cineworld saying my local re-opens on the 26th of August, which was a surprise as it re-opened a few weeks ago. Apparently my first month back on Unlimited is free. I'll see how I feel come September 26th as to whether I feel safe to go back or cancel my membership. We are still under additional restrictions in the GM area, for one thing.
Never thought Empire Strikes Back, Flash Gordon and the Back to The Future trilogy would be in cinemas again but that I wouldn't go see them.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 16, 2020 17:49:53 GMT
Tameside (GM borough) is currently a high risk area with a sort-of lockdown on so cinema visits are currently a no-no. Tenant out soon. New Mutants from 9th of September! I've seen all the X-Men films in the cinema. Really want to see them. -Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 26, 2020 5:30:12 GMT
Current UK release dates on IMDB:
26 August - Tenet 4 September - The New Mutants (tickets now on sale) 16 September - The King's Man 23 September - Bill & Ted Face the Music 2 October - Wonder Woman 1984 28 October - Black Widow 12 November - No Time to Die
And, er... 2 July 2021 - Top Gun: Maverick
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2020 10:22:58 GMT
Still not going near a cinema while the GM infection rate is so high. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2020 10:24:06 GMT
The New Mutants finally coming out is one of the signs of the apocalypse!
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Aug 26, 2020 10:28:49 GMT
Bill and Ted 3 is a sore point. I would have loved to see it in the cinema, but with the world as it is...
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 26, 2020 18:37:53 GMT
I shall wait for the Blu-Rays for Tenet and New Mutants so I can enjoy them without catching the plague. If infection rates remain high end of September I'll cancel my Unlimited card.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 28, 2020 17:21:07 GMT
Correction: New Mutants opens TOMORROW.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 28, 2020 17:47:22 GMT
Then the world ends TOMORROW.
I shall catch it on Blu Ray or Disney Plus.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 4, 2020 19:12:19 GMT
26 August - Tenet 4 September - The New Mutants (tickets now on sale) 16 September - The King's Man 23 September - Bill & Ted Face the Music 2 October - Wonder Woman 1984 28 October - Black Widow 12 November - No Time to Die And, er... 2 July 2021 - Top Gun: Maverick Bum. The King's Man put back to 2021. But we've got a new Bond trailer! Bill & Ted previews on the 16th. Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2020 18:14:42 GMT
Not been in a cinema since February. Can't see myself going back this year. I do miss it. Tameside is currently the 4th most infectious area in England and the local cinema is in the area where I used to live until recently, where people seemed to be 'relaxed' about following Covid rules.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 16, 2020 18:25:40 GMT
Five of us in the auditorium at the 12.50 screening. Virus transmission not an issue.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2020 18:55:58 GMT
It is here. I'm not going to a cinema in the 4th most infectious part of the country, no matter how much I miss it. Infection rates have to go way down and testing has to be increased before I'll cross the front door of a cinema. I don't expect these things to happen this side of New Year.
Soon as it's safe I look forward to enjoying one of my main hobbies and joys in life once again.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 16, 2020 19:38:45 GMT
Fair enough. Mind if I move these posts to the Post-lockdown Cinema thread so this one can be all about the films?
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2020 20:51:04 GMT
Sure, no problem.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 20, 2020 16:13:10 GMT
After many years of faithful service, I have cancelled my Cineworld Unlimited card. No point paying for something I am not using. I had hoped to be back at the cinema by now but infection rates are going up not down. I look forwad to signing up for the card again when it is safe to go again. Other side of new year, probably. Sad. -Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 3, 2020 5:59:20 GMT
Bond and Black Widow both appear to be on hold until next year now, along with The King's Man, and Wonder Woman currently pushed back to the end of this year. I completely understand lots of people aren't ready to return to the cinemas, but if all the big films are held back until everyone's ready to come back it'll be very hard for the cinemas themselves to keep going in the meantime, as the people who do want to go in the meantime won't have anything new to go and see. Why can't they release the films for current audiences now and then show them again for others next year so no-one misses out, auditoriums don't get too crowded, and the safe cinemas aren't starved of business in the interim? Why do films' successes have to be judged on opening week audience numbers? Because of the virus, they should _want_ a film's audience to be spread out over a longer period so we're not all cramming in at the same time! If they delay for a spring launch in the hopes of a packed auditorium, nobody sensible wants to see that in the foreseeable future! Having audiences trickle back as and when they're ready with a steady flow of new films is the safe way to do things, not hold out for a big launch with everyone flocking to a new film at the same time. Poo. Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 3, 2020 7:48:08 GMT
They've probably got to worry about piracy if they release it twice for one thing. And probably don't want to spend two loads of advertising revenue especially when cinemas could be closed at a moment's notice.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 3, 2020 9:17:58 GMT
It is quite right and proper to delay Bond. Loads of people would want to see it, cinemas would be busier and that is not good during a period of high infection.
Cinemas really should be closed.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 3, 2020 9:25:23 GMT
If there is evidence of transmission occurring between strangers in socially distanced cinemas (on average more so than in cafes, restaurants, shops, factories, people's homes, etc.), I would be interested in seeing it. They feel very safe to me compared to all the other places that are currently open where there is far more scope for prolonged proximity to strangers, but it shouldn't be down to people's feelings. They know through the way tickets are booked the contact details of pretty much everyone who is going to see films, and even where they are sitting, and should know if they are causing problems. If not, those businesses should not be punished by closure or starved of new films for no good scientific reason. The longer this pandemic goes on, the more important it is to focus restrictions on the activities/places where the science says transmission is mostly taking place rather than clobbering everyone.
Cinemas that contact tracing shows to be operating safely should be kept open, with seating limited to ensure social distancing, and if that means not everyone can see a new release on the first weekend but they have to go on a weekday or later on in the run, fine. Edit: They should probably introduce more differential ticket pricing to incentivise audiences to spread out more evenly over the day/week.
The safe reopening of cinemas has been a good mental health boost to many, and a relief to staff coming to the end of furlough. I will support my local ones as much as I can so long as they are run safely, but I don't want to see Tenet, New Mutants and Bill & Ted more than twice each.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 3, 2020 10:11:03 GMT
Contract tracing as run by Serco is a waste of time. They consistently miss targets. The reporting of the poor quality of the service is out there in the public domain. It's better than nothing but it's not a good enough system for me to feel safe. Also: people can lie about their details, not answer the phone, etc.
Cinemas still sell snacks. People take off masks to eat snacks.
Films are a business. If there aren't enough customers going due to a pandemic it makes sense for the film makers to delay them until a time when there is a high turnout so they can make their money back.
Going to the cinema is one of my passions in life and I miss it terribly. I usually go at least once a week and I haven't been since February. It's a great escape which helps my mental health and sense of wellbeing. I'll be back when the virus is under more control but not a minute before. I'm not sitting in a high infection area and being constantly reminded of it by having a mask on the full time while sitting in the dark. I cancelled my Cineworld card. Of course, Cineworld may close due to lack of business but my health comes first.
I go to one cafe once a week run by people my partner knows. It may be just as unsafe as a cinema but I am there for a shorter time, I can see exactly where everyone else is (can't in a cinema), I sanitise constantly and I am not alone so I can manage the anxiety.
I also have to go an unsafe workplace.
I go nowhere else.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 3, 2020 10:23:36 GMT
I respect all of that, Ralph. No-one should feel under any pressure to do anything they don't feel safe doing. If theatres were open now, I wouldn't go (despite fearing for their long-term viability far more than I do for cinema, because individual theatre performances cost a lot to put on and need big audiences, while individual screenings of a film that's already been made do not - the future for live theatre is truly bleak). Pubs and restaurants are now open in the evening, but I wouldn't feel safe going to them either (except to sit outside). Alcohol makes social distancing break down. But even though there are things currently open that I wouldn't feel safe going to personally, I'm not qualified to say that they shouldn't be open. They give people pleasure, and maybe if they weren't open, people would be congregating more inside homes and causing more transmission than they do in restaurants. I just don't know.
And I do feel that if they keep films running over a longer period and let everyone come back when they feel the time is right for them personally, that reduces the risk by everyone to see a particular film all at the same time.
You're right of course about it being a commercial decision. The film-makers obviously believe it's the right decision for them.
Martin
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Post by jonathan85 on Oct 3, 2020 23:10:53 GMT
Sunday Times reporting that Cineworld is set to close all their cinemas until next year. Over 5000 redundancies.
I'd imagine the other chains will follow suit.
Jonathan
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 4, 2020 4:14:32 GMT
Argh. But no surprise following the Bond decision. No new films released means no cinema. Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 4, 2020 8:12:23 GMT
The article does rather place the blame on Bond in a bit of tabloid sensationalism, which I would have found jarring until I remember who owns the paper, rather than the fact very few new films have been released, but it's not a surprise.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 4, 2020 8:55:35 GMT
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