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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2020 13:58:54 GMT
I will genuinely be astounded if you get an answer.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Aug 30, 2020 17:40:09 GMT
So the Ratchet page gives us silhouettes.   Netflix Bumblebee, Siege Sideswipe, and ER Trailbreaker. |
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Post by Toph on Aug 30, 2020 17:45:18 GMT
So... With Bugbite done, it could be straight up Bumblebee, G2 Bumblebee, Red Bumblebee, or Glyph.
Sideswipe could may be that rumored Earth mode Sideswipe retool, or could be Clampdown.
Trailbreaker, I'm at a loss for. Lift Ticket?
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 30, 2020 18:38:46 GMT
Is that Hoist or Trailbreaker?
I'd be happy with any of the diaclone colours of either of them. Yellow Trailbreaker would be especially nice though.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 30, 2020 19:15:33 GMT
That Botcon Lift Ticket was nice. Looked better than the T30 Hoist it came from.
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Post by Llama God on Aug 30, 2020 23:15:42 GMT
If I of those is indeed G2 Bumblebee then I shall be most vexed. Although probably not too much, because what are the chances they’d get his face right, anyway..?
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Post by Toph on Aug 30, 2020 23:24:36 GMT
Is that Hoist or Trailbreaker? I'd be happy with any of the diaclone colours of either of them. Yellow Trailbreaker would be especially nice though. It would have the weird wing things visible if it were Hoist, I'd think. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 31, 2020 6:48:32 GMT
So the Ratchet page gives us silhouettes. Netflix Bumblebee, Siege Sideswipe, and ER Trailbreaker. I'm told BB & Sideswipe more closely match the Masterpieces - see the detail round the inside of Sideswipe's legs and BB's gun - rather than the WFC versions! The Trailbreaker isn't the Earthrise one either so where's that from? I wouldn't object to a second avenue for the BB and did speculate this might be the home for Earthmode Sideswipe |
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Post by Toph on Aug 31, 2020 6:55:48 GMT
Maybe they are from the MPs, but I can't see them actually using MP molds.
(Though MP Bumblebee v1 is a better scale match for generations than it is for MP, or Netflix Bee.)
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 31, 2020 13:17:36 GMT
I see Phil's already commented on this, but Kapow seem to be learning about these sets in the way we are - so it's probably unlikely we'll get them through any proper channel over here. |
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Post by Kingoji on Aug 31, 2020 14:06:26 GMT
So the Ratchet page gives us silhouettes. Netflix Bumblebee, Siege Sideswipe, and ER Trailbreaker. First time seeing these. Bumblebee and Trailbreaker certainly match no existing toy in their proportions and kibbly details. This plus the fact that all three seem to be holding their weapons double handed, something the toys generally can't do, and I suspect it's just character art that's been blanked out. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 1, 2020 5:44:00 GMT
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 1, 2020 7:01:39 GMT
Order in on Ratchet. We'll see what we see.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 1, 2020 7:20:30 GMT
What a twist!
Do I need a second security preorder here? How good are Robot Kingdom on this kind of thing?
Wait, I'll rephrase that, have you ordered one from Amazon too, Phil?
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Post by Toph on Sept 1, 2020 7:28:00 GMT
HUZZAH!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 1, 2020 8:04:39 GMT
What a twist! Do I need a second security preorder here? How good are Robot Kingdom on this kind of thing? Wait, I'll rephrase that, have you ordered one from Amazon too, Phil? Look at the image above..... |
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Post by browny87 on Sept 1, 2020 8:15:52 GMT
that would be a yes then  |
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Post by Toph on Sept 1, 2020 8:27:20 GMT
What a twist! Do I need a second security preorder here? How good are Robot Kingdom on this kind of thing? Wait, I'll rephrase that, have you ordered one from Amazon too, Phil? Look at the image above..... Naw, Phil. I think they deserve the truth. I flew over there, made the purchase, and you snapshot it to convince them you had. They were just too smart for us to fall for it! |
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Post by Slack on Sept 1, 2020 11:45:28 GMT
Somebody mentioned an option for amazon to use their own packaging rather than the label slapped on the box or the shipping box it comes in. Is that possible with this order?
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 3, 2020 11:58:21 GMT
I've been looking at the Galactic Odyssey map again.  Do we think that eventually all of the planets on here will see use in soe form or another? It seems odd to include so many other worlds and then locate all of the sets in the same area. Obviously we have Unicron in the bottom right, reminding us that his toy is coming. Above him is presumably Cybertron given it's prominence> To Unicron's left is Quintessa. To it's left is Nebulos, what with the twin moons and ring. Left and up is a small planet with what appears to be a ring of debris, so Antilla? For no other reason than it's directly in Unicron's path, Lithone? And the top left is our solar system, right? So Earth for all intents and purposes. Outside of the labeled worlds, that's pretty much my best guess. Although I feel like I *should* know what a lot of this in general means. So Paradron we know. Biosfera we can make an educated guess at being the beast-themed world. With 'Bio' in there, maybe it would be better to say "organic-themed". Beast Wars, mostly. I feel like I should know the icon there, but it's possible the bells it rings are for the 2003 TMNT logo for the Foot Clan. Dominus is another name for Planet Master, so Masterforce era characters? That would give them room to return to Head and Targetmasters if the toyline progresses back around to Nebulos. The icon for this world looks like an animalistic face, so fingers crossed for a Deathsaurus. Botropolis is the one I think I have highest hopes for. As meantioned before, Botropolis was the name of the city in Hasbro's Go-Bots range. The Icon reinforces this with the tower from the city being prominent. The planet itself is half-demolished ruins, much like Gobotron was in the original Challenge of the Gobots, although there the planet had been cored. I'm hoping this is the start of Hasbro figuring out a legal work-around to introduce the CotGB characters into Transformers canon wholesale. Which leaves us with Micron. Folks have speculated Micron = Micronus and thus Micromasters repaints. i'm not ruling that out, but I'm leaning more into Micron = Armada and any Micromaster repaints would instead be Mini-Cons. The Icon for this planet has a robotic face that most closely resembles the Aligned version of Vector Prime. It would be somewhere to put that Armada Optimus prototype we saw a year or so ago.  If these theories have any truth to them, I would hope that visitations to these worlds are reflected in the mainline as well, just as Beast Wars will be. While I'd be glad to get A character from each of these lines, there will obviously be folks who would have prefered someone else... |
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Post by Toph on Sept 3, 2020 12:31:42 GMT
(Please note I am not complaining at you, kingoji, or take issues with anythi g you've said. You just reminded me of their mindset)
This still...irks...me so much. This concept. The idea that takara and hasbro has that it doesn't "fit."
There is no actual fiction for any of this. This is little more substantial than john warden's personal headcanon.
There,s no big multi-year long television show that has X number of slots where if this one guy gets put out that means this other dude in the show doesn't get a toy.
There aren't even any bios anymore. There's not even a "buy this toy, to go to this website and read about his adventures!"
"We need to find a place for it to fit" is such a stupid mentality to even have, when you have an online exclusive label specifically designed for things that don't "fit!"
Super Megatron didn't "fit." Star Convoy didn't "fit." They factor into none of these stories (and I use the word in the absolute loosest possible way).
Combat Hero Megatron didn't "fit."
God Neptune isn't even G1.
They've had little problem in the past couple years with other things that don't "fit." UW Valdigus. Legends/TR Black Convoy.
The only thing stoping either Hasbro or Takara from releasing Armada Prime is themselves. This idea that it needs to "fit" is pretend. It already fits in Generation Selects.
Or I dunno... Put it out in the retail line as I dunno...Optimus Prime. Like they did with Galaxy Convoy.
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 3, 2020 13:27:20 GMT
Oh, sure. I agree that this has been the case.
But this meta-fiction they're putting effort into is here now, and that means the releases can be defined and figured by it. And if they need this to encourage them to actually give us some more multiversal releases, then all the better.
Kingdom, for example, has present characters, future characters, and Beast wars from pre-history. They made a point of featuring the Golden Disc, the record of time, in promo images. Under this they have given themselves a reason to visit three different eras of toys.
We don't know what comes after Kingdom, but once you introduce time travel, you're only a skip and a jump from multiverses.
So if this meta-fictionality gives them their "reason" to branch out of G1 for a few lines, then grand!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 3, 2020 18:41:48 GMT
That Armada Prime is an interesting one at this point. He's very much of the evolution leader style used in Pottop and we've moved quite a way from that. You've got to wonder if cost wise he fits with the way things work now, look at ER Prime and his poxy trailer. I can see that being a reason why that toy hasn't come out, or that the post-kingdom line will be Armada based so there's no point putting the figurehead toy out now. An entirely new unused mould that size as an exclusive would be something new too.
I would love to see it though, but what I'd like more is for post-kingdom to be Armada based and the Prime to be that year's Commander class to really do him justice.
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Post by Toph on Sept 3, 2020 19:40:31 GMT
We don't know if he's PotP style. We've never seen his trailer. We've never seen anything but the core robot, which is at least Voyager sized, and seems to be very faithful to how the original worked.
My personal thinking is he already is commander class. The first one. But that's as much a presumption on my part as my original thought that he reused PotP Rodimus parts.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 4, 2020 7:06:37 GMT
Botropolis is the one I think I have highest hopes for. As meantioned before, Botropolis was the name of the city in Hasbro's Go-Bots range. The Icon reinforces this with the tower from the city being prominent. The planet itself is half-demolished ruins, much like Gobotron was in the original Challenge of the Gobots, although there the planet had been cored. I'm hoping this is the start of Hasbro figuring out a legal work-around to introduce the CotGB characters into Transformers canon wholesale. An interesting point there, although with Odyssey being a the line it is they'd just be repaints (and maybe slight re-toolings) of existing molds. So I'm guessing we'd up with something like Leader-1 and a Cy-Kill from Siege Starscream and Combiner Wars (or PottoP - you know the one I mean) Wreck-Gar. Which would be an interesting take, for sure. And would make more sense than recreating the characters from the actual Transformers Go-Bots series because they're not as well known. Although, this being Hasbro, maybe we will end up with a PottoP Optimus Primal redecoed as Gorilla-Bot... |
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 4, 2020 7:14:04 GMT
Retool Pottop Jazz's roof and reverse the torso in robot mode for a decent Crasher.
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Post by Toph on Sept 4, 2020 8:17:06 GMT
I would be quite pleased with ER Dirge redecoed as earth mode Fitor.
While Turbo, Scooter and Cop-Tur don't, and Cy-Kill and Leader-1 are sketchy at best, there are still quite a few Gobots that work from modern TFs.
Just as long as we avoid any more of the ehobby minibot redecoes. Those are just wrong.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 4, 2020 8:29:31 GMT
Ah, most of us love them thanks to a fanzine exclusive some years ago which broke up some sets and distributed them individually.
I've got the grey Powerglide. I'll have a dig and see if I can find some more details but I know the subject comes up every so often.....
With Huffer and Warpsth apparently on the menu for next year some more of them are a distinct possibility.
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 4, 2020 8:54:16 GMT
Retool Pottop Jazz's roof and reverse the torso in robot mode for a decent Crasher. Had to get it out of me before work.  Crasher from PotP Jazz. The chest is the back/roof rotated and collapsed. The head is from Mirage. |
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Post by Toph on Sept 4, 2020 9:49:01 GMT
Ah, most of us love them thanks to a fanzine exclusive some years ago which broke up some sets and distributed them individually. I've got the grey Powerglide. I'll have a dig and see if I can find some more details but I know the subject comes up every so often..... With Huffer and Warpsth apparently on the menu for next year some more of them are a distinct possibility. I don't have any problem with the toys and decoes, I just hate that this is the go-to deco/molds for these characters. Gears in orange makes a terrible Smallfoot. (That said, I get Bugbite because Bumblebee in yellow but evil is still Bumblebee.) For proper gobots, give me something that can actually pass as the character, like potp jazz in black as crasher. Not something that doesn't even remotely look like them and isn't even the right color. |
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