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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 21, 2008 21:56:56 GMT
Two interesting points nicked from the IDW forum:
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2008 8:43:06 GMT
Heh! Now all we need is for the rest of the fanboys to actually stop buying shite out of mindless loyalty and we can ensure that McCarthy doesn't get to guide the IDW TF franchise for much longer.
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 22, 2008 13:38:35 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2008 13:45:22 GMT
LOL!
Andy
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 22, 2008 13:58:14 GMT
Haven't really paid much attention to this series since the first issue and this preview is enough to put me off further.
I agree with the earlier comments though that this would have made a far better start to the series rather than being 1/3 of the way through. Might've held my interest a bit more then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 14:02:49 GMT
Good lord, this sounds worse with every issue. This was meant to be the series where I switched to Trade-waiting. Sod that then.
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 22, 2008 14:18:05 GMT
What is wrong with the above?
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 22, 2008 14:23:28 GMT
Roflol.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2008 14:38:18 GMT
Oh dear lord!
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 22, 2008 18:57:54 GMT
Seeing a lot of comments on the IDW forum saying "wow, this is a really good issue and the series has suddenly turned around!".
If true, this means Shane could do good writing and dialogue, which begs the question of why the hell he waited until ISSUE FOUR.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2008 19:04:13 GMT
I'll take it with a pinch of salt, especially as the fanboys will wholeheartedly endorse the mediocre simply because so many TF comics over the years have been shite.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 22, 2008 19:30:28 GMT
There is a certain 'support the brand' mentality in some message boards.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2008 19:33:45 GMT
I can never get that. I will admit I am more tolerant with TF material than other comics but I've learned to quickly bin the shite stuff.
Andy
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Post by legios on Oct 22, 2008 20:24:29 GMT
There is a certain 'support the brand' mentality in some message boards. -Ralph I have never supported brands. Burning emblems into things with heated metal implements seems excessively cruel, whether it be robots, fans or cattle..... On a slightly more serious note, I don't really get this "some Transformers is better than no Transformers even if it is bad" mindset. If I'm not enjoying something I'm not going to buy it just to support some nebulous product identity. I buy comics and watch television shows because I get enjoyment from them. If I'm not getting enjoyment from them then I stop buying or watching them. Doing anything else seems slightly irrational to me. Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 22, 2008 20:35:04 GMT
Also, it's not like AHM is the only TF series being published! There are 3 publishers (IDW, Titan, Fun Pub) putting out loads of stuff on a regular basis!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 22, 2008 20:49:56 GMT
Indeed. That is why I'm not too bothered about "All Hail Megatron". So I don't like this "Transformers" comic, doesn't matter because there will be another one along in due course and maybe that one will be more to my taste.
"Transformers" doesn't seem exactly in desperate need of propping up at the moment.
Karl
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 22, 2008 21:37:35 GMT
Also, it's not like AHM is the only TF series being published! There are 3 publishers (IDW, Titan, Fun Pub) putting out loads of stuff on a regular basis! If you just stick to IDW, that's still three seperate continuities at the moment, not counting the reprints, and a Furman mini is upcoming. |
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 23, 2008 8:50:26 GMT
But "Transformers" will die and be Ruined ForeverTM if we don't all support and buy every single product with the "Transformers" brand on it.
Who will feed the Terrorcons? Won't somebody please think of the Terrorcons?
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 23, 2008 10:11:58 GMT
Fook the Terrorcons! Let them die!
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 23, 2008 10:17:11 GMT
But now that Six-Shot is no longer looking after them, who will feed them now?
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 23, 2008 10:21:17 GMT
Brad Mick.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 23, 2008 10:28:22 GMT
It's a job that doesn't pay well, if at all.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 23, 2008 16:14:49 GMT
I have now read #4 via Other Means. As usual, lovely art and colouring.
-Ralph
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Post by KoshNaranek on Oct 24, 2008 2:35:11 GMT
....and not much else.
We're now a third of the way through it's run, and this story continues to go nowhere.
What really got me though, was the final letter on the letters page. Chris H writes that the "..ation" series had stories that were "all over the place" and that "characterisation was subpar". While it's true that there were many different plot threads running through the ..ation stories and many different locations, I wouldn't say they were all over the place. At least more actually happened in a single issue written by Furman than has happened in four issues of AHM.
As to his second point about subpar characterisation, he mentions that he cared more about DJ from two panels than any other human character so far. Now, maybe I'm being cold when I say this, but DJ may as well have been named Cannon Fodder. I know that the little bit of dialogue we got was meant to elicit a sympathetic response to the character, but it just didn't come across to me. Verity and Hunter may have started out as a little annoying, but I actually grew to really like them as they matured through the story.
Going back to issue 3, the conversation between Megatron and Starscream was mildly entertaining. However, am I the only person who finds the use of the words brothers and men when referring to TF's annoying?
I've always been a bit of a completeist when it comes to collecting Transformers comics, but I've managed to cut back from trying to track down every cover and now just buy the ones I really like. This is the first time I've ever really considered dropping a title in the middle of a story The combination of "fan pleasing moments", no story advancement, repetition of things we've all seen so many times before and that it seems to be aimed at those who only ever watched the cartoon have completely put me off. I'm giving it just one more issue to change my mind.
Darn it, I'm being really negative again, sorry guys.
- Tony
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 24, 2008 8:27:21 GMT
No apology necessary - from you that is Tony. I'd like to think Shane McCarthy owes us one.
It's just a sunbow based mini-series and as such the twats who can't see past it are furiously masturbating over it's existence and characterisation.
Andy
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 24, 2008 9:53:54 GMT
I can see a proper Sunbow Cartoon based Transformers comic series being quite charming and entertaining. Maybe as a "Evolutions" branded mini series or somesuch.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 24, 2008 10:00:27 GMT
So that other board lied to me?  |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 24, 2008 10:02:33 GMT
It would appear so Charles.
Damn you internetz!
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 24, 2008 10:33:35 GMT
That said, I'm bloody glad General Witwicky isn't in this issue. That IS good!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2008 13:09:19 GMT
I can see a proper Sunbow Cartoon based Transformers comic series being quite charming and entertaining. Maybe as a "Evolutions" branded mini series or somesuch. I quite agree. A fun series could indeed be derived from Sunbow, if done properly. Unfortunately, any attempts to ape Sunbow (Dreamwave, AHM) are just utter wank! -Ralph |
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