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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 6, 2024 22:11:01 GMT
"I suppose you want me to play Burglar Bill again George?"
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 7, 2024 9:57:54 GMT
As I am off for a few days, I think a marathon of Tinker Tailor and Trial is called for.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 7, 2024 22:33:06 GMT
Pretty rough couple Hoops...
First Tegan leaves... and it's so fraut, so emotional. "Don't leave, not like this!"
And the in the very next episode Turlough leaves!!
Turlough was really very interesting with his healthy display of self-preservation. A unique companion, and an only clumsily explored character.
And then...
CAVES
Never have I witnessed a more dramatic Hoop. So utterly fraut. So desperate. Fifth at his heroic best. Mesmerising performance. And then he was gone. Gone way too soon. I've read that he'd decided to leave etc, but... damn it he was in his prime!!!
And then....
Sixth.
I'm struggling, lads. Not helped by the poor storytelling. I mean, one of the first things they have him do is try to strangle a woman to death. What the f**k?. What were the writers thinking?! Slow handclap.
Still. Attack of the Cybermen now and the awesome Lynton is back (which I remember happening as a child). And Brian Glover?!?! So that's all nice. Hoping Sixth will grow on me. I watched him as a child but remember very little.
I'm also in love with Peri. Predictably enough.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 7, 2024 22:42:19 GMT
That season is a struggle in places, but there are some good stories and the following season his Doctor is much better.
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Post by Llama God on Feb 8, 2024 9:32:11 GMT
Yeah, with the Conjunx being away I decided to go back and rewatch the start of Six's stories, since I'd not been able to convince her to start there and, again, haven't seen them since original broadcast. Those first two stories are... well they're certainly not great. The Twin Dilemma seems like it would be a pretty average Who story for the era, if not for the "unstable" Doctor which... does not make pleasant viewing.
Attack of the Cybermen isn't much better. Although the Doctor has calmed down (relatively), it's incredibly violent in a way that I wouldn't be expecting except for it being the '80s. And the story struggles a little from the writers not quite getting the hang of a 45 minute run time.
Alas the Conjunx is back today, so further Six stories will have to wait. Can I convince her to watch Trial, though..? I doubt it.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 8, 2024 10:22:51 GMT
That season is a struggle in places, but there are some good stories and the following season his Doctor is much better. AHEM. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 8, 2024 10:24:09 GMT
Attack of the Cybermen is great.
Ask Andu about the Cryons.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Feb 8, 2024 17:44:30 GMT
Sixth. I'm struggling, lads. Not helped by the poor storytelling. I mean, one of the first things they have him do is try to strangle a woman to death. What the f**k?. What were the writers thinking?! Slow handclap. Oh, the Colin Baker era a classic example of an actor who would have been wonderful in the role, sabotaged by a string of terrible, terrible stories. Honestly, so much of his tenure reminds me of Whitaker's run recently. The sad knowledge that they had an actor who was capable of far better than they were permitted to deliver much of the time. Karl |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 8, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
That season is a struggle in places, but there are some good stories and the following season his Doctor is much better. AHEM. -Ralph What? If you're going to claim Season 22 is better than Trial I want to know what's happen to the real Ralph. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 8, 2024 21:45:11 GMT
Season 22 is the second best season of Doctor Who.
SAVE YOUR BREATH FOR THE TIMELASH, PIGWIG! MOST DEPART WITH A SCREAM!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 7:12:56 GMT
Right. That's not true and you know it.
-Pigwig
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 9, 2024 7:43:42 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 9, 2024 22:26:49 GMT
Right. That's not true and you know it. -Pigwig What's he on about? Which is series 22, the one I'm on now? |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 9, 2024 22:43:29 GMT
Shockprowl! The Iplayer tells you!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 9, 2024 22:50:42 GMT
But I can't remember and I'm currently watching part one of Rani Something and don't want to go back and check!
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 22:52:44 GMT
Yes, 22 is Attack of the Cybermen up to Revelation of the Daleks.
Lots of very good stuff there, just not as good overall as the next season.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 9, 2024 23:04:33 GMT
Thank you, Pinwig.
Sixth's first series is improving. Rani Something is holding my interest. But there's something really clumsy about either Sixth's performance or the writing. I'm... struggling somehow.
Maybe I'm just mourning Fifth. Caves has had an effect on me.
Ohh, Sixth has been sent down a hill on a hospital trolley.
That's funny 'cos you wouldn't believe often that happens in real life!
.........
Anyway; WHAT THE HECK IS PERI WEARING IN THIS EPISODE?!?!?!
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 23:24:47 GMT
That is your actual period costume, that is.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 9, 2024 23:28:02 GMT
I prefer her in a bikini.
(..I hope I didn't say that out loud.)
Turlough. You lucky bastard.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 23:43:11 GMT
Caves is one of a handful of stories often cited as the best story of all time. Getting smacked in the mush by Twin Dilemma after that is like the world has ended.
The only problem with season 22 is the erratic nature of the Doctor. As a viewer you don't know where you are with him, which isn't Colin's fault. It makes stories like Vengeance on Varos confusing as opposed to brilliant because there's no safety net. You want it to be great, but the hero isn't a hero.
His doctor does get better as the series goes on and you've got a couple of really good ones coming up.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 23:45:19 GMT
I prefer her in a bikini. Planet of Fire did have quite an effect on young Pinwig. As did meeting Nicola Bryant at a convention back in the day. |
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 9, 2024 23:47:28 GMT
I'm currently watching: Hoop, X Files, and chess/history/space/geography/evolution videos on Youtubes. You know, I'm very happy they put Old Hoop on iThingy. That was a Good Thing. You've absolutely barnstormed those episodes. You should have done a full on marathon from the start. Well, the second story anyway. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 9, 2024 23:47:54 GMT
I remain amazed that Planet of Fire managed to achieve a 3d shot in 1984 without the viewer needing special glasses. Truly groundbreaking.
You know the shot I mean...
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 9, 2024 23:48:55 GMT
Yeah, Shockprowl. After you finish 4-8, go back and do 1-3.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 10, 2024 0:06:23 GMT
I'm genuinely impressed. It took me the best part of three years to marathon the classic series.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 10, 2024 0:08:30 GMT
Yeah. Yeah I know the shot you mean. And I make no apology for knowing the shot he means. I prefer her in a bikini. Planet of Fire did have quite an effect on young Pinwig. As did meeting Nicola Bryant at a convention back in the day. Her hard work in this series is the only thing that's holding it together for me. Her consistency is giving the stories a much needed anchor, even the writers are giving her very little to do. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 10, 2024 9:39:04 GMT
I hope Shockprowl goes hardcore and does all the Missing Episodes too.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 10, 2024 22:33:48 GMT
THE TWO DOCTORS!!!
Kinda vaguely sort of remember this one; been looking forward to it.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 10, 2024 22:39:22 GMT
Of course he will.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 10, 2024 22:42:44 GMT
Woaw hang on- isn't she from freakin' Blakes 7?!?!?!
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