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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 17, 2012 18:18:31 GMT
Alas I will not have any Blu-Ray Trek for Soong-type Saturday. One day though....
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 17, 2012 18:48:46 GMT
Coming Soong though, chum!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 17, 2012 19:18:09 GMT
*tilts head* Hmm!
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2012 7:48:50 GMT
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Post by legios on Oct 20, 2012 12:46:21 GMT
I do hope that they had the full Klingon Liturgy, complete with the story of the demise of the Klingon Gods. (Klingon theology is great, somewhere between Norse, Celtic and heavy metal - apparently the Klingon gods got worried that the first Klingon man and woman would be too mighty so they tried to separate them. Cue Klingon Man and Woman storming the abode of the Klingon gods and slaying them all in combat.)
Still working my way through the last Season of Deep Space Nine - was getting bogged down with the Sisko proposes to Cassidy/Esri struggles with Jadzia's feelings for Worf episode until a) they pointed out that they had not forgotten that Sisko was basically the Bajoran messiah - and therefore his marriage is a theological earthquake not booking a registry office and b) Dukat turns up and demonstrates that he is migrating from Jim Jones to full on Space-David Koresh. The great bonkersness of Dukat is becoming one of the highlights of the back third of the show to be honest - Marc Alaimo is just throwing himself into the part and it is a treat to watch. (To be honest the "Everyone fights the Dominion" story is rapidly becoming far less interesting than Dukat's rise/fall to "emissary of dark powers").
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 24, 2012 13:59:43 GMT
Continuing to really enjoy the Classic series on the digital box. 'The Enterprise Incident' last night ended in time for me to catch a somewhat rambling interview with William Shatner on the BBC News channel.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2012 18:33:34 GMT
I usually revisit the original show all the way through roughly on a bi-annual basis and it's a continual pleasure how well it holds up. Even most of the much-maligned Season 3 (from where The Enterprise Incident hails) is fairly solid stuff.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 24, 2012 20:05:22 GMT
It often gets a rough ride from folks, but I think there is a lot of good in every season of the original Star Trek. It has a cast who generally seem to be trying their best with whatever material they are served up (sometimes doing a far better job of understanding what they are making than some of the production crew - c.f. "Spocks Brain", where everyone except the director seems to realise that this is an outright comedy.). "Enterprise Incident" is a cracking story, and I often think that people forget that it comes from that season and mentally assign it to an "acceptable" season.
Karl (Currently watching more of the final season of DS9 - if you had told me at the beginning that by the end of the show I would have come to actually quite like two Cardassian's who weren't Gul Dukat I would have been very skeptical. But Legate Damar is a cracking character, and a great performance)
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 24, 2012 20:13:28 GMT
For Cardaaaaaaaaaaasiaa!!
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Post by Toph on Oct 24, 2012 22:42:50 GMT
I always wanted to see the romulans get the kind of attention that TNG and DS9 gave the Klingons and Cardassians. (Bajoran stuff always bored me to tears).
They always struck me as a really facinating race, who're iconic to the franchise, but almost never got more than the occasional "Big Bad Coldwar villain" episode.
Some of my favorite episodes of TNG were ones that involved the Romulans, but *weren't* nessisarily the villains. Okay, their government is corrupt and ruled by militant extremists, but the Romulans themselves were usually portrayed as very thoughtful, and usually reasonable people who aren't nearly as headstrong as the Klingons or Cardies.
On a side note, I always wanted to get a friend with me and go together to a convention dressed as a Cardassian and a Jem'haddar. "Hi, I'm Gul Abul, and this is my associate, Jim Haddar. We're the good will ambassidors for the Dominion!"
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Post by Jim on Oct 24, 2012 22:50:37 GMT
(Currently watching more of the final season of DS9 - if you had told me at the beginning that by the end of the show I would have come to actually quite like two Cardassian's who weren't Gul Dukat I would have been very skeptical. But Legate Damar is a cracking character, and a great performance) Damar's arc is great, they managed to take him from Dukat's boo-hiss villainous aide who murdered Ziyal in season 5 to a character to root for by the end, and they did it without some jarring shift in behaviour - good writing and a good performance. -Jim
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 25, 2012 0:30:55 GMT
Very well done I thought. What probably makes it work is that Damar himself grows to loath what he was and actively seeks redemption for himself and his people.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2012 7:34:57 GMT
The chap who played him gave a talk at a collector's fair I went to a few years ago. It was clear he had put a great deal of thought into the role. He's extensively theatre trained and teaches acting and it showed. Much amusement from his tale of initially being hired just to do one line in one episode as an extra for an episode then being told that the producers were looking to hire him on a regular basis thereafter so that by the time he got on set to do his line he had no idea how to play it as it was a very brief functional sentence!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 25, 2012 18:06:55 GMT
I am looking forward to a big screen First Contact viewing here in Edinburgh on the 5th. Never seen it at a cinema before so I shall enjoy it immensely.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2012 18:11:26 GMT
This will be my 7th cinema viewing of it!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 25, 2012 18:24:45 GMT
Better get on that check list, doc.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 25, 2012 19:18:44 GMT
First Contact is my favorite Star Trek movie. I even rate it higher than Wrath of Khan! I know!
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Post by legios on Oct 25, 2012 19:24:00 GMT
I am looking forward to a big screen First Contact viewing here in Edinburgh on the 5th. Never seen it at a cinema before so I shall enjoy it immensely. It is very well worth seeing on the big-screen. As to Damar and the actor who plays him, I am not surprised to find that he put a lot of thought into the character. He is one of the most sharply-defined antagonist characters in Star Trek. Very strongly and clearly motivated - his fall into alcoholism as he realises that everything he has done in Cardassia's interests has brought his nation lower, and his eventual reversal when he realises that he can still chose to fight for that nation is quite striking for just how strongly it comes across. One of the thing that strikes me about the character is that it seems less that he changes by going through his despair, but that he reaffirms who he was - a man willing to do what he believes must be done to save his nation. For all that he is a speciesist, space-facist he do feel for him when he is at the bottom of his pit of despair and there is something rather satisfying about seeing the worm turn. The other thing that has struck me about the last couple of seasons is the difference in tone between TNG and DS9 in how they approach religion. TNG doesn't really seem to talk about it much except to mumble some vague comments about how religion is a bit pre-rational and we are all terribly advanced now and mumble-mumble. Whilst DS9 allows the Bajoran's to turn around and be withering right back to the Federation about how they feel sorry for the poor Feddies for not having such a close relationship as the Bajoran people do with the Prophets. It is refreshingly even-handed, and distinctly tonally different to Star Trek or any of the other spin-offs. (Actually, I am surprised by how much I am enjoying the Pah Wraiths/Dukat/Kai Wynn story arc. Marc Alaimo really did make hay with the Emissary of Evil thing, and it is lovely to see them pay off the nagging suspicion that the Kai really was as self-serving at her core as she sometimes appeared) Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 28, 2012 20:55:34 GMT
I am looking forward to a big screen First Contact viewing here in Edinburgh on the 5th. Never seen it at a cinema before so I shall enjoy it immensely. www.filmhousecinema.com/showing/star-trek-first-contact/I think I will skip the tenuously linked 'mental health' talk though. Rather too much like my 9-5 work! -Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 4, 2012 16:50:15 GMT
Tomorrow chum! Think I will skip the talk as well. Not sure I quite get the connection.
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Post by legios on Nov 4, 2012 17:41:27 GMT
I think it is a fairly tenuous "the is a counsellor in Star Trek: The Next Generation"...
I am going to have to skip the talk I think - I'll be getting back to Planet Falkirk late enough tomorrow evening as it is.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 4, 2012 17:43:51 GMT
Depending on how I feel when I finish my first day of work and when, I might pop along and see this.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 4, 2012 18:58:29 GMT
Due to changes in work schedules, I will be pushing it to make it now as I will be finishing up in a part of the Burger where due to tramworks it currently takes around 75 mins to get out of there.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 4, 2012 19:02:57 GMT
TRAMS!!!!!!
Andy
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Post by legios on Nov 4, 2012 20:10:14 GMT
We must stop the trams. For the good of our nation! *unleashes the power of the Gravity Tide satellite*
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 4, 2012 22:39:31 GMT
*Travels back in time to stop Tram Contract*
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 5, 2012 22:26:43 GMT
In the end I walked a fair chunk across Edinburger to make it to the screening. It was the only way to get there on time, even allowing for an unusual early finish from work.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 5, 2012 23:09:04 GMT
Ralph won't stay in Westerhailes...
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 6, 2012 7:57:04 GMT
This far! No further!
*gurns*
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 6, 2012 8:02:35 GMT
We must stop the trams. For the good of our nation! *unleashes the power of the Gravity Tide satellite* Karl Ultra Magnus will stop the Deceptitrams. Or die in the attempt!
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