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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 16, 2009 17:16:37 GMT
Well, it doesn't need to be someone who can draw realistic humans, which is a point against the early Marvel US artists (whose strength lay on that side) and in favour of the Marvel UK and G2 ones (who couldn't draw realistic humans for toffee).
The level of violence suggests Yaniger, but since Death's Head is in it, it had better be Geoff Senior. (As he used to be.)
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Post by chrisl on Sept 16, 2009 17:58:58 GMT
There can be only one:
NICK ROCHE!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2009 21:16:29 GMT
I personally wouldn't wish for a comic version if it. It's so perfectly suited to prose.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Sept 17, 2009 7:03:45 GMT
I am in agreement with Ralph.
Besides, James's prose is so visceral at times, certain images my own imagination has formed from his words are so ingrained in my brain that no comic adaptation would replace them!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 17, 2009 10:06:04 GMT
I'm with Ralph and G. The only way Eugenesis would work is if everybody did their own graphic novel version of it as certain scenes we have in our heads and work so well that another interpretation of them wouldn't come close to matching it.
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 16:25:10 GMT
I gave thought to Eugenesis not just as prose work but a sweeping visual experience. After reading Eugenesis, it seems like it easily could be adapted into a graphic novel format. I wouldn't mind seeing it integrated "officially" into Transformers UK's mythos. It's sort of like Lord of the Rings. Not everyone agrees on the graphic adaptations but each gives a different interpretation making the whole experience more well rounded.
Incidentally, did any fan or pro artists render Eugenesis scenes?
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Post by legios on Sept 17, 2009 20:47:26 GMT
I'd have to find myself amongst the group who feel that a comics adaption of Eugenesis wouldn't really do it justice. I feel that its strengths would be diluted in a format like that and there would likely be too much emphasis on the eye-candy of the battle sequences, which would be to loose too much of what makes Eugen worthwhile for me.
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Post by jamesr on Sept 17, 2009 22:27:44 GMT
I hope people don't think I just lurk and lurk and lurk, scanning threads for mentions of Eugenesis, but anyway, I just want to say that I'm chuffed people still think about it.
When I wrote it, it was very visual - especially the opening sequence on Aquaria. Like a teaser, really. A movie in my mind.
Anyway, Nick Roche would be my choice for an artist, but I dread to think how many issues there would have to be. Nice TPB at the end of it, though.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Sept 18, 2009 1:13:29 GMT
I personally wouldn't wish for a comic version if it. It's so perfectly suited to prose. -Ralph I agree. Unless Geoff Senior was drawing it, then I'm saying "screw all that, I wanna see Senior do the big fight scenes WHEEEEE!". |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 25, 2009 20:20:42 GMT
Incidentally, did any fan or pro artists render Eugenesis scenes? A few of us have done. Andy T did a cool one of the fall of Metroplex. I did a couple of scenes on Cybertron featuring the Ark (one on the way to battle, one with battle joined):   Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 25, 2009 20:36:57 GMT
I never quite finished that pic and you know I'll be damned if I know where it is.
Love both those pics Martin.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 25, 2009 21:38:45 GMT
Your Metroplex pic is in the Eugen section of the TMUK DVD if you feel like resurrecting it. There's also one there of the Autobot sniper by Mark, I think.
As I recall. someone had the idea of doing an 'Art of Eugenesis' special. It was one of those ideas that just didn't generate a big enough response to see the light of day. But we got a few pics done between us as a result of it, which was something.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 25, 2009 22:04:39 GMT
Andrew Borkett did one as well of the fight on Autobot City.
I'd hate to try and resurrect it, though I might try my hand at it from scratch. Be interesting to see the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2009 22:56:36 GMT
Great job Martin! I would love to see an 'Art of Eugenesis' book or magazine. Perhaps a revisit, thanks to this thread, will get everyone's creative juices flowing! I would participate but my artwork is fairly limited, to stick drawings.  |
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Sept 27, 2009 11:03:43 GMT
Your Metroplex pic is in the Eugen section of the TMUK DVD if you feel like resurrecting it. There's also one there of the Autobot sniper by Mark, I think. As I recall. someone had the idea of doing an 'Art of Eugenesis' special. It was one of those ideas that just didn't generate a big enough response to see the light of day. But we got a few pics done between us as a result of it, which was something. Martin Yeah, I think that got used as a cover for an issue of Junk Files once. I also did one of Kup facing off against the Quintessons. Maybe there should be a page on the Underbase collating all this stuff together? Mx |
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Post by jameso on Sept 27, 2009 15:28:52 GMT
I think I used the Kup picture in Junk Files too. I don't seem to have it on my computer anymore though if I did.
There seems to be a lot more artists around here than there was when art of Eugenesis was first mooted, maybe it would take off more this time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2009 4:16:40 GMT
There seems to be a lot more artists around here than there was when art of Eugenesis was first mooted, maybe it would take off more this time. I sure hope "The Art of Eugenesis" takes off. There are so many scenes worth illustrating. Off the top of my head, I've always wanted to see Death Head tear off Galvatron's arm. Death Head never forgets, yes? |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 30, 2009 9:55:22 GMT
Not sure there's much of a 'market' for an 'Art of' in itself. The number of times I've plugged the book elsewhere and been met with silence. There is an inherant resistance to fan stuff (especially of charged for it) because it's not 'offficial'.
But maybe a few pieces on-line or in a mag might work nicely.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on May 25, 2010 8:57:31 GMT
Here's hoping a lot more people have a look at Eugenesis on the back of what they've read of Last Stand of the Wreckers.
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Post by Kingoji on May 27, 2010 18:58:44 GMT
I have wanted to read Eugenesis since forever ago, but my big prblem is that I just simply CANNOT sit and read prose fiction from my monitor. Don't ask me why, I don't know. I just can't.
In fact, it's my biggest hope for AA this year that maybe James would consider a second printing. If he did, then hell yes, put me down for a pre-order!
Because unless I can get my hands on a physical copy, I'll probably never get it read. And that hurts.
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Post by The Doctor on May 27, 2010 19:00:36 GMT
Then buy a pack of A4 and print off a copy of the pdf. Ask a friend if you haven't got a printer.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on May 27, 2010 19:02:46 GMT
I must be one of the few people who PREFER to read off a monitor!
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Post by Kingoji on May 27, 2010 19:04:51 GMT
Then buy a pack of A4 and print off a copy of the pdf. Ask a friend if you haven't got a printer. -Ralph Aha! The SIMPLE option! I'd still love to own it, though. |
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Post by glaug on May 27, 2010 19:06:04 GMT
If I wasn't about to move overseas I'd be willing to lend my print copy. :/ Though my former landlord nearly destroyed it.
Also, I'm sad that "The Art Of" never really took off. At the original idea's inception I was too busy to get round to anything, sadly... Maybe I should re-read and see what inspires me after my exams.
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Post by Kingoji on May 27, 2010 19:10:38 GMT
If I wasn't about to move overseas I'd be willing to lend my print copy. :/ Though my former landlord nearly destroyed it. Also, I'm sad that "The Art Of" never really took off. At the original idea's inception I was too busy to get round to anything, sadly... Maybe I should re-read and see what inspires me after my exams. Thanks for the consideration, dude. I'm easily inspired, me. I have no doubt that I'd draw something from it after reading it. Hell, I'm still trying to get around to drawing my 'Globequake' tribute... |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 27, 2010 19:14:02 GMT
I'm sure Graham would be capable of doing a nice professionally printed version in a binding of some sort if you lobbied him hard enough.
Martin
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Post by Kingoji on May 27, 2010 19:22:36 GMT
Another solid option!
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Post by glaug on May 27, 2010 19:55:31 GMT
Thanks for the consideration, dude. I'm easily inspired, me. I have no doubt that I'd draw something from it after reading it. Hell, I'm still trying to get around to drawing my 'Globequake' tribute... Well, if you read fast enough I could drag it down to AA this year, or post it out in advance of then. But I don't know when I actually leave for Japan, and I'd be hoping for it back beforehand. :/ |
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Post by Kingoji on May 27, 2010 19:59:20 GMT
Well, it's up to you man. If your landlord almost destroyed it, do you want to risk further damage?
If you are okay with sending it on to me, I can promise that I'll return it to you at AA, whether I've finished it or not.
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Post by grahamthomson on May 27, 2010 19:59:22 GMT
I'm sure Graham would be capable of doing a nice professionally printed version in a binding of some sort if you lobbied him hard enough. Martin James has my number. |
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