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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2008 18:17:30 GMT
I'll most likely pick one up at AA on Saturday.
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 31, 2008 18:30:49 GMT
The fanzines have arrived safely and are packed up ready to depart tomorrow morning along with us!
-Nick
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Post by Gav on Jul 31, 2008 18:43:13 GMT
SAVE ONE FOR MEEEEEE!
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 31, 2008 19:46:08 GMT
Not a problem.
-Nick
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Post by legios on Jul 31, 2008 21:43:36 GMT
Excellent news! Glad to hear that they have arrived safely
I look forward to seeing them "in the ink and paper" in due course.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 31, 2008 22:31:05 GMT
They are in my living room. They are very heavy when carried in great number.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2008 10:20:47 GMT
Just had a flick through my copy and I like it. Here's to future issues.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 4, 2008 20:46:08 GMT
One of the few bits of the mag I had not seen before seeing the final print copy where a couple of pages from the story by a Mr Gavin Spence. A certain character has a cameo. He knows who it it is.
THERE IS NOWHERE IN GLASGOW YOU CAN HIDE FROM ME, GAV!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Gav on Aug 5, 2008 12:42:18 GMT
I...I-i have no idea what you're talking about, Ralph.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 5, 2008 21:17:24 GMT
You know full well!
A Better World: page 3, bottom panel, far right.
DAMN YOU!
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2008 17:16:40 GMT
The cad sneaked that past me also. I read that story and I never noticed that Prime keeps such a picture on his bedside table until Ralph mentioned it.
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Post by Gav on Aug 6, 2008 17:33:01 GMT
How did that get on there?
I was very worried about the reaction to the story, because I'm very new to writing, and i crammed a lot of stuff into 4 pages - when i should have used more.
The next story will be much more streamlined.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2008 17:33:23 GMT
I demand a story to explain it! I must know of Prime's secret love. Only then will I be able to sleep at night.
-Ralph
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Post by Gav on Aug 6, 2008 17:37:54 GMT
Haha, perhaps my Christmas story will be the explanation you seek.
Seriously though, was my story alright? I have no fucking clue what I'm doing.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2008 17:42:33 GMT
It was great fun, Gav. Seriously, you underestimate your talent.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 6, 2008 17:56:41 GMT
It was a fun story and long ago did I know of the plan to put Longtooth into the story. Fair made me smile so it did!
Andy
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Post by Gav on Aug 6, 2008 18:32:36 GMT
I'm glad it was taken for what it was, a daft fun story. I had visions of people going "THIS DOES NOT WORK INTO CONTINUITY"
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 6, 2008 18:38:49 GMT
Continuity? On occasion we've had that word in the swear filter on the Hub forum!
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2008 18:45:23 GMT
Some of the Marvel TF comics couldn't care less about continuity so why should you?
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Post by kayevcee on Aug 6, 2008 19:39:50 GMT
At the opposite end of the spectrum I was concerned that my contribution would be regarded with scorn as 'continuity porn' of the [Insert Name] Crisis variety.
I do like your story, Gav. You do an excellent Optimus Prime head as well. Is the main character based on any particular Poundland Special?
-Nick
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 6, 2008 20:04:34 GMT
Strict 'continuity' is over-rated. What matters more is are the characters feeling consistent and do the stories feel like they inhabit the same 'universe'.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Aug 6, 2008 20:36:08 GMT
I lean towards Ralph's point of view on this. I'd rate "consistency" over "continuity". The essence of a character should always be the same, and the back history should feel logically consistent with what has gone before and what will come after. But I don't tend to sweat the little details. I tend to view all fiction as an "imperfect dramatisation", coloured by narrative viewpoint and the filter of the audiences perception. In short you should be able to "get there from here" when you line a given story up against others that are set before or after it.
Karl
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 6, 2008 22:09:49 GMT
And as ever I must stick my head above yon parapet and disagree. I think continuity is just as important as consistency, because for me to care about what befalls a character they must have a unique biography (even if only partly revealed to the reader) - i.e. a life. I only care about what happens to people in the real world because what happens to them happens to them and tomorrow will still have happened to them. Same in fiction. When it doesn't happen I see it as laziness / lack of commitment on the part of the creators, and I am not inclined to show any greater commitment than they do by paying for it.
I don't judge fan work by these standards though, since fan work is more like an exercise in creativity and done for pleasure rather than as a commercial venture, but even in the case of fan work I tend to only enjoy serious pieces if they're set in the original Marvel TF universe.
Martin
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Post by Gav on Aug 7, 2008 8:01:38 GMT
At the opposite end of the spectrum I was concerned that my contribution would be regarded with scorn as 'continuity porn' of the [Insert Name] Crisis variety. I do like your story, Gav. You do an excellent Optimus Prime head as well. Is the main character based on any particular Poundland Special? -Nick Haha, yes indeed! I'm sure i've got a pic of them somewhere on here.... *fumbles around* Yes! Probably! |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 7, 2008 16:20:16 GMT
And as ever I must stick my head above yon parapet and disagree. I think continuity is just as important as consistency, because for me to care about what befalls a character they must have a unique biography (even if only partly revealed to the reader) - i.e. a life. I only care about what happens to people in the real world because what happens to them happens to them and tomorrow will still have happened to them. Same in fiction. When it doesn't happen I see it as laziness / lack of commitment on the part of the creators, and I am not inclined to show any greater commitment than they do by paying for it. Martin I think the difference in viewpoints Martin comes from where you approach continuity from. Speaking for myself (and Ralph purely as we've had many a chat on the subject over the years) continuity for us only comes into discussion in works of serial fiction like comics (and sometimes certain television shows and spin offs) where they are told over many years and being told by many different individuals. To analogise slightly - take the stories of Sherlock Holmes. By and large the world agrees that the only "proper" stories are those by Conan Doyle himself. (Although there are more than a few devotees of Holmes who believe the tales told after the Reichenbach Falls don't count but we won't go into that). Imagine if you will that things like The Seven Per Cent Solution were to be forced into the Holmes continuity. That's pretty much the indignity that comics in particular as a work of serial fiction has to suffer repeatedly, adding to that the constant updating of references and background material in order to avoid the work being dated. For better or worse well that's up to the reader to decide. There are many changes for the better and equally just as many for the worse. Transformers is something of an unusual one in that you can easily allow the characters to operate in real time without any great problems. Most other comics have to clear out the barnacles in order to operate this 10-15 active span they seem to have deemed the norm for folks like Superman/Batman et. al. Not that I am saying this is necessarily the right approach. I for one totally could get behind a complete Batman saga told as if he did debut in 1939, but that's just me. There is also the problem that without any one single author, many, many untalented people can get their hands on characters and titles and do some serious damage all in the name of telling "their story" or introducing their own characters so I am more inclined to allow latitude in these areas. Transformers reboots in recent years have suffered from that Sunstorm and The Fallen in the Dreamwave reboots and I've no doubt Drift in All Hail Megatron is going to fall squarely into that category as well. Andy |
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Post by grahamthomson on Aug 14, 2008 9:01:28 GMT
Slowly and savouringly (is that a word??) making my way through RWAUG in order, from the beginning. I'm taking my time on it though, since I want to involve myself as a reader as much as the obvious hard work and talent put in by its creators.
A full review will follow soon.
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Post by grahamthomson on Aug 29, 2008 7:46:14 GMT
Crap. I've come to continue reading this and seem to have misplaced my copy! Argh!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 29, 2008 19:48:30 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Aug 31, 2008 11:22:03 GMT
Gah! I was waiting for the Thomson perspective!
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Post by grahamthomson on Sept 1, 2008 15:56:34 GMT
S'okay, I found it again!
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