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Post by andrewbcalculating on Feb 22, 2010 11:28:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 12:11:29 GMT
Looks like I'm going to have to buy a program to get rid of the virus thats running through my computer. I thought about reinstalling Windows from scratch but my computer is refusing that option on the grounds that it can't find a device driver on a computer that has a C drive, a D drive and a DVD drive!
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Post by blueshift on Feb 22, 2010 12:19:19 GMT
What virus is it?
Did Malwarebytes not work? When I had mine (got it when the ads on this forum were infected) I ran Malware, then AVG, then Spyware then Adaware in a row. Perhaps get them to run on bootup too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 12:41:25 GMT
It was some kind of Win32 trojan that couldn't be deleted from any free program I tried. I then brought Spyware Hunter this morning and hopefully thats got rid of it or at least got rid of most of it.
UPDATE: My anti virus software is still picking up .exe files that are being written to my computer by something despite the paid for Spyware Hunter seemingly getting rid of the trojan. It looks like this virus is so watertight that nothing can get rid of it.
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Post by blueshift on Feb 22, 2010 12:54:25 GMT
Is one of the .exe files called e.exe by any chance? That was what I had. It had some registry processes hidden as well. I shall see if I can remember what I used.
I actually had to go in and disable the registry processes one by one until I found the infected one, though I wouldn't recommend that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 15:14:55 GMT
In the registry there is a file called svchost.exe and this is a file that part of the computers operating system. Unfortunately, it's this file thats corrupted in some way and keeps on writing win32:rootkit-gen files that my anti-virus software keeps on picking up and quarantining.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 22, 2010 16:02:43 GMT
Do a google search for svchost.exe virus. There's some removal tips on the net that might be of use.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 18:25:05 GMT
I tried that but most of it is just stuff for the experienced computer user.
Anyway, I thought of an idea about a few hours ago to see if I could resolve the problem by using system restore and restoring my computer to a date before I downloaded the torrent that started all of this in the first place. The result: its uninstalled the pay-for program that I downloaded and paid for this morning, its barring me from downloading a single thing so I can't reinstall the software that I've paid for and its turned off my anti-virus software and is refusing to allow me to turn it back on again!
The joys of computing!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 22, 2010 19:20:49 GMT
That's a nightmare, Zudo. I hate computers for causing this kind of stress to people. Why can't they make computers that keep the essential operating system software isolated in such a way that newly introduced software can't corrupt it, that's what I want to know. I mean, as far as I know, it's impossible to put data on a DVD that will damage my DVD-player, or data on a CD or cassette tape that will damage my CD or cassette player, or transmit radio or TV signals that will damage my radio or TV, so why do they insist on making computers that can be broken by the programs you run on them?
My BBC Micro couldn't be damaged by a virus, because every time I switched it off it forgot everything. The operating system was in a chip, not in the memory (it had no permanent memory). Additional software had to be loaded and run from disks.
Maybe they should make computers where the operating system is on a read-only hard disk, and all your additional software has to be stored on plug-and-play or USB devices. Or something. Why is it beyond the wit of man to design a computer that doesn't need anti-virus software or firewalls because it is physically incapable of doing the things those programs protect against?
Anyway, back to your problem. I don't suppose the system restore has an un-restore facility that can put it back the way it was, let you grab the software you paid for, and then restore it back again? If you know what I mean?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 20:06:39 GMT
I'll have a look but I don't think it does. This whole business is just doing my head in. I've already go money problems and job problems I don't need computer problems as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 21:33:39 GMT
That was a complete surprise!
I restored my computer back to the state it was prior to this morning and then installed a few official Windows Vista updates. The result: the updates completly crashed my computer and killed it stone dead! Therefore I went into the settings and restored the computer to factory settings and its working again now. Hopefully this complete restoration has got rid of the virus with any luck and the only problem I'll now face is to reinstall Microsft Office and my choice of internet browser back onto the PC. Fortunately, I saved all of my documents this morning before I tried to reinstall windows from the main disc (which failed completely) so I haven't lost them.
Completely changing the subject here now some of you may have noticed that I haven't made my daily update to my A-Z of 80's kids shows today. This is because I have finally put that thread to rest due to it completely running out of steam.
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 23, 2010 2:27:44 GMT
Vista is quite the dog and I had stability problems when I applied the second service pack, so I had to roll it back and then fight Windows everytime I turned it on to not have it install it.
Well, the Boss is serious about moving our business to new digs! He sent me a floor plan for the office build out today. I'll be moving out of this craptrap of a building in two months! YAY!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 23, 2010 7:01:02 GMT
I restored my computer back to the state it was prior to this morning and then installed a few official Windows Vista updates. The result: the updates completly crashed my computer and killed it stone dead! Therefore I went into the settings and restored the computer to factory settings and its working again now. Hopefully this complete restoration has got rid of the virus with any luck and the only problem I'll now face is to reinstall Microsft Office and my choice of internet browser back onto the PC. Fortunately, I saved all of my documents this morning before I tried to reinstall windows from the main disc (which failed completely) so I haven't lost them. Good to hear you seem to have achieved a resolution, and that you had backed up your files. I fear it was doing a good impersonation of a TV series that had done all its best stuff and reached a natural conclusion, but which the producers were determined to squeeze every last penny out of despite dwindling audience figures and being moved to a graveyard slot on the schedule. It was good while it lasted, but I think there was a hint in the title as to when was the best time to wind it up.  Martin |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 10:19:40 GMT
No virus problems at all today so the whole debacle of my computer crashing did me a good turn. I think it was one of those cases of 'it can't get any worse so it has to get better'.
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Post by Cullen on Feb 23, 2010 13:35:55 GMT
Maybe they should make computers where the operating system is on a read-only hard disk, and all your additional software has to be stored on plug-and-play or USB devices. Or something. Why is it beyond the wit of man to design a computer that doesn't need anti-virus software or firewalls because it is physically incapable of doing the things those programs protect against? Martin It's a good question but you might as well ask for a car that can't be stolen or purse that can't be snatched. The open nature of PCs as a platform leads to them being more vulnerable to attack as opposed to closed systems like DVD players or the BBC micro. PCs and their operating systems are not one inseparable entity. PCs can have any OS installed on them meaning there has to be way of writing the OS data in the first place. In order for the OS to be installed in ROM then the PC manufacturer and the OS provider would have to be the same company (or partner together). Microsoft don't make the hardware and the likes of Dell don't make the OS, and both parties are unlikely to partner together to create a closed system. I'm sure MS like the fact their OS runs on all machines following a certain architecture, and I'm sure PC manufactures (and component manufacturers) like that they can put any OS on their machines. The open nature of PCs is what has led them to be very successful. Changing them to be closed systems would limit their market. Like making a car that can't be taken out of the garage would limit its potential market. Anyway you make it sound like Microsoft don't even try to lock down their OS. Of course they do, but due to the massive popularity of their system they get a large number of hackers trying to expose the flaws. Even on a closed system like a games console or DVD player where the OS is fixed and unchangeable it is possible to hack and break them. Often this just results in the device becoming 'bricked', i.e. it doesn't work anymore and is as useful as a brick. At least you can often reformat a PC and reinstall your OS. However closed systems don't tend to get hacked as its not worth someones time and effort to do it. Really its the popularity of Windows that's the greatest factor in the number of viruses that get created. The delivery channel of the virus is the next biggest: any online capable device is more susceptible than an offline one. Anyway it sounds like you want to buy a Mac  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 13:56:20 GMT
Ahh, the good old BBC Micro. Many a high school dinnertime was wasted on this machine by me and mate as we played such games as Plan B
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 23, 2010 16:41:57 GMT
PCs and their operating systems are not one inseparable entity. PCs can have any OS installed on them meaning there has to be way of writing the OS data in the first place. In order for the OS to be installed in ROM then the PC manufacturer and the OS provider would have to be the same company (or partner together). Microsoft don't make the hardware and the likes of Dell don't make the OS, and both parties are unlikely to partner together to create a closed system. I'm sure MS like the fact their OS runs on all machines following a certain architecture, and I'm sure PC manufactures (and component manufacturers) like that they can put any OS on their machines. Yes, but if you ask a person looking to buy a computer if they want one on which they can change the OS or one where the OS is fixed but it can't be corrupted by viruses, I think most home users would opt for the latter. I'd say a happy compromise would be where the OS is on a plug-and-play chip. You can change/update the OS only by switching the chip in one of the plug-and-play slots. Yeah, everyone says Macs are better virus-wise. But as long as my computers at work use Windows, and it's what most people have, I'll continue to take my chances with MS. I suppose that's the kind of apathy that maintains their monopoly. Martin |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 16:43:02 GMT
I've recently got a call back from the job agency saying that I'll be needed into work tomorrow. With any luck things might start to improve from now on.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 23, 2010 16:47:10 GMT
Woo-hoo!
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 23, 2010 19:43:23 GMT
Well done Zudo!
Hi Sportsfans!!!! Very excited about our new cabinet for our dinning room. Ah, I love being dull in suburbia! I'm forbidden to put anything 'toy-like' on it! (Masterpiece Strike Planes aren't toys, I'll tell her!). Work is great at the mo. I'm lovin' my new skills and POWER OVER LIFE AND DEATH!!!! Piglet insists on running around nude at bedtime saying she's pooing on everything. Strange child. Realised today that she can roll her tounge like her Pa, whereas Mrs Shockers can't roll hers! My genes clearly rock when it comes to tounging! (?!)
Hope all my cyber chumbs have a toungingly good week!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 22:07:22 GMT
Just tell Mrs Shockprowl that your entire collection of Prowl toys are not toy like - they are model-like!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 23, 2010 22:31:12 GMT
Had my day off, as I worked Saturday. Spent preparing for the decorator coming in, managed a bit of drawing and some reading of the HP Lovecraft Necronomicon tome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2010 17:59:07 GMT
Had a day at work today but have still got to contact the job agency as to whether I will be working tomorrow (for some reason they can't be bothered to call me if they know I'm in work but rather they wait until I ask them first).
In other news I got an email back from Paypal saying that my account has been restored. This was after I sent an angry email to them asking what they were playing at.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 24, 2010 18:52:22 GMT
Busy at work. It's now clear what the target to reach in in the first 6 months is. Meet it, you get kept on. Fail it, you're out and back to the dole. It's fair been keeping me up at night. So no point planning a summer holiday until I know if I have a job in the summer.
Some of us are going out after work on Friday for a curry. Not had a decent curry in ages. I shall be off the booze though.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Feb 24, 2010 19:10:11 GMT
Eek, best of luck Ralph!
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Post by andrewbcalculating on Feb 24, 2010 19:36:31 GMT
I hate jobs with targets; all it creates is stress thinking about the consequences. It's like I've heard on the radio about traffic wardens who have a target of fines they have to impose, if people aren't parking illegally then they can't issue a fine but their bosses would see the lack of imposed fines as them not doing their job properly, it's unreasonable.
In my experience, bosses wont accept "circumstances out of your control" as an excuse for not reaching a target which is joke because that is what can happen. If it's a slow work day it can't be helped and that doesn't mean that people aren't working hard.
Good luck Ralph.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 24, 2010 19:48:09 GMT
Well, I knew going in that there's targets to meet but from the position I was in it was too good an offer to refuse. I like the company, ethos and staff. Should I pass probation and get kept on whether I decide to stick at it in a longer-term basis or try for something else will entirely depend on how achievable the targets turn out to be in reality once I'm fully trained up. It's just too early to say. I did badly last month, but did ok this month.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 24, 2010 19:55:57 GMT
Well good luck, Doc'. That's gotta be a serious mind-fook working to a target like that.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 24, 2010 19:57:37 GMT
Just tell Mrs Shockprowl that your entire collection of Prowl toys are not toy like - they are model-like! Tried that one. She doesn't buy it. The only thing that remotely works is if I say they'll be worth something one day (even though I'd secretly never sell my Prowls!), but even then she complains they're taking up too much space! Eee, can't live with 'em.... |
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Post by legios on Feb 24, 2010 19:57:54 GMT
I shall keep my fingers crossed for you Ralph. Hopefully you will continue to do well in forthcoming months.
Had a bit of a fright yesterday evening, got the news that my sister has been in a car accident on her way down to Kent. Fortunately it was not as serious as I first feared. It necessitated a trip to hospital, but it looks like there is no permanent damage and she is now safely back at home this evening.
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