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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 12:24:24 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 4, 2013 21:14:53 GMT
I want an MP-10!!!! I'm totally behind the 'New MP' scale. Far more collectable. And the superior styling of the newer MPs blows the old MP leaders out of the water, especially Megatron.
So any mother hubbers heard any news about the latest release date in the UK of MP-10? I can't find any up to date info. He's crazy money at the moment. Anyone have one?
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 4, 2013 21:45:29 GMT
Got released a few weeks ago. Cost £100. Haven't been back to TRU since so no idea if my local still has it. It is as I said elsewhere a proper toy that can be played with rather than a collectible. I like this fact very much. Although Im not quite sure why Hasbro felt Prime taking a dump while doing a girls gone wild impression was the best sales method.  |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 4, 2013 21:53:25 GMT
I want an MP-10!!!! I'm totally behind the 'New MP' scale. Far more collectable. And the superior styling of the newer MPs blows the old MP leaders out of the water, especially Megatron. So any mother hubbers heard any news about the latest release date in the UK of MP-10? I can't find any up to date info. He's crazy money at the moment. Anyone have one? I saw one lonely MP10 at TRU Edimburger a couple of weekends ago. It looked great, but not £100 worth of great. AND SPIKE HAS NO EYES. HE HAS NO EYES. -Ralph |
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 4, 2013 22:38:21 GMT
If it was just the robot then the £60 asked for Grimlock and Rodimus would be very reasonable at least no worse value for money and more than Rodimus after all this is a leader class toy, but better and they were up to £45.
Where it becomes questionable is the value in the trailer. yes its big and yes it is a Masterpiece playset/base and its quite good, but is is £40 of good? For me, no inside its a bit disappointing really. Rollers launcher has gone and the cockpit mechanoid thing is less articulate than the original G1 toy.There is an opening in the for it to stick out of, but no opening at the front. The inside of the trailer also lacks any stickers or paint apps so it looks pretty plain. On the plus side theres a nice enrgon axe storage space and the trailer id designed to work stood up as a vertical repair bay with plat forms the right height for Spike to be up near Prime eye line.
So as a base at best its about on par with the original but feels cheaper. But as a trailer I have to admit to really really liking it. it has doors that open sideways like real trailers tend to and has a slide out ramp. This is good. Better are the legs that you pull out when Prime isnt at the front to keep it balanced. The foot pad is up, as you turn it 90 degrees the foot lowers to ground level. It's random and the a little flip down or pull down thing could have done the same and the budget used to add a launcher or improve the repair bay in some way, but its brilliant. And as someone who really doesnt have the space for base mode I like the extra detail on the outside.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 4, 2013 22:57:26 GMT
Thanks for that Andy. He sounds pretty darn good. Great MP styling, but bags of playability as well (is playability a word?). He's out. Good. I shall watch out for him.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 4, 2013 22:57:37 GMT
Ah well. You just saved me some otherwise inevitable cash! If the base can't do what the thirty year old original Prime base toy could do then I have completely lost interest.
More cash for Lego...
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 4, 2013 23:15:50 GMT
Actually I should correct myself, I thought that the repair droid was less articulated, but I'm not sure, the what I always think of as a square circular saw is quite short so feels like it has less range and I'm not sure if the rest is different or not. The launchers is a loss, but it does gain in a few areas, it's one of those you'd have to try out and see if theres more pros than cons to the new version.
Part of methinks it would have been better not to have included the trailer, but then Prime always had the most presence as a lorry hauling that trailer so I'm personally glad this version includes it. But it probably would have sold better as a £60 toy.
Certainly if we get the Magnus repaint with trailer/armour it will be much better value provided the price os about he same.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 5, 2013 8:17:29 GMT
No launcher = no sale to Ralph.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 5, 2013 8:44:37 GMT
The lack of a launcher is a disapointment to be sure.
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Post by Stomski on Mar 5, 2013 9:05:44 GMT
Does the Japanese release of MP-10 have a launcher for Roller?
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 5, 2013 9:44:11 GMT
I don't think so, I'd be surprised if Hasbro went through such a big remould for such a small release.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 29, 2014 20:28:24 GMT
MP 10 is a great figure. I only just realised this very night that his little matrix is metal! I'm playing with mine right now.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2014 21:25:25 GMT
When it was £100 it vanished very quickly off the shelves of TRU round these parts. The other day I was looking at the £125 version. They're just not shifting. Taking things out (No Eyes Spike and Roller) and bumping the price up by £25 has made it shelfwarm. A shame that greed took over with the re-release. The mould is actually quite fun.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2014 22:10:46 GMT
I think the problem with it is that it's just unnecessary. It's come 12 months after the last, at least on these shores, has fewer accessories as you say, and fundamentally is the wrong colour. Putting something like that in a national UK toyshop is madness. If it becomes an excuse for not releasing more Masterpiece scale figures here because it sells badly I'll... Well, I'll sulk. TRU shoppers are the wrong market. Hell, I'm the right market and even I don't want it.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 29, 2014 22:16:22 GMT
I think more of the MP10 Op, even at the inflated price, would have sold.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2014 23:04:19 GMT
At the time I think it would have. They seemed to sell through quite quickly, even at a three figure price, which surprised me.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 29, 2014 23:16:57 GMT
Gosh I didn't even know it'd been re-released! So soon?!
So, for more money but less stuff... That's not very good mathematics. Who made that decision? Pinwig's right, bad idea Hasbro, which may give us MP lovers future problems.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 30, 2014 6:57:15 GMT
Not exactly rereleased... It's missing Spike and Roller and TE silver chrome is now gold.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2014 7:45:55 GMT
Gold not silver? Eeeuuuw.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 30, 2014 8:38:07 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2014 10:03:01 GMT
The problem is compounded by the clear trailer looking very cheap in the plastic for the price-point. You have to look closely to be able to tell it is the package due to its transparency. I can see potential customers not noticing it on first glance.
The toy is also now in a gigantic package with lots of dead space so bizarrely it feels lighter.
There are many reasons why this version is not selling!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2014 10:12:21 GMT
What gets me with this line is the way the exclusivity shifts from release to release. So you have a collector oriented remould/repaint line, I understand that and I'll buy into that happily, it's like a western version of Cloud I suppose - despite the oriental 'Year of' moniker - but it's all over the place in terms of who does what. Amazon, BBTS, TRU, Hasbro Toyshop, they've all been a mixture of what comes from where.
On top of that TRU UK seem to have joined at exactly the wrong point with two useless releases in bling Prime and that overpriced Starscream, probably killing any chance of future releases. We could have had the Grimlock/Bruticus set or the big Ultra Magnus. Both of which would have been cheaper than £125 and probably sold more, even if Grimlock has had a solo release. I'd have bought both of those if I'd walked into a shop and seen them. Same for Year of the Snake Omega Supreme as that was a shared TRU exclusive too. I'm still tempted to get that one from BBTS even though I've got the Energon original. I like the fact it would fit with the FoCers and it has the right colours. And surely the reissue of Predaking would have done well as those toys never have been released here (that's right isn't it? they didn't sneak out in the 90s reissues?)
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2014 10:15:19 GMT
Indeed. I agree with that.
I could easily have red hazed on Predaking or Omega had they been in TRU!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2014 19:09:03 GMT
Yes spot on there, Pinwig. There appears to be very little sense to what is, and what isn't, released. It's like they don't want our money!
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2014 20:26:06 GMT
I'd be interested to know with the Generations stuff if being an exclusive works like it does with Character and the Doctor Who range. With those TRU decide when they want classic figures and order from character, who provide to their specification (like last year's Doctor/Dalek two packs - cheap but attractive repaints). In which case with Transformers it would be a case of what Hasbro have to hand when TRU call and say, we'd like some exclusives, what's out now? That might account for why it's all so sporadic and patchy, being driven by TRU's needs and not what Hasbro want to sell.
That said I'm surprised we haven't had new waves in for easter. Sorry, this is drifting well off topic.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2014 22:05:15 GMT
TRU didn't bother to stock a lot of Generations, hence why I was annoyed by them having it as an exclusive line.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2014 22:17:45 GMT
It is extremely annoying, but is it also possible if TRU hadn't picked it up as an exclusive that we wouldn't have the Generations line at all? I don't know how many different TF lines supermarkets would take.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2014 22:21:43 GMT
With the split into simple Movie toys for kids and more complex Generations for collectors it will be interesting to see how the UK market stocks Transformers after this May!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 30, 2014 22:38:22 GMT
I think we all have suspicions which way this will go....
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