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Post by grahamthomson on Jul 3, 2009 10:02:40 GMT
Not £100! I like the look of the combined mode, but the individual vehicles look so hollow.
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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2009 10:38:16 GMT
I think this probably deserves at some point a price-watch thread like the Millenium Falcon has. It would be interesting how quick or slow the price decrease goes.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 3, 2009 12:08:08 GMT
You will suffer so we dont have to Graham! I'm intrigued to know more about it, the price sounds incredible
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Post by Benn on Jul 3, 2009 12:14:25 GMT
well, i thought he'd bigger than that, from the price...
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Post by grahamthomson on Jul 3, 2009 12:17:09 GMT
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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2009 12:29:46 GMT
Brings back memories. Toyshops still can't shift that thing.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 3, 2009 12:36:06 GMT
At least Devastator fits into the rest of the line.
Ultimate Bumblebee was just... so so odd
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 3, 2009 16:45:16 GMT
It really does not look like it's worth £100 in terms of size or features. I would say that if folk want one it's sensible to wait for the inevitable price drop. The character didn't really do anything amazing in the movie, perhaps that might also make it difficult to shift them at £100?
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 3, 2009 17:18:41 GMT
Wow, you can see him becoming less and less enthused about it as it goes on |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 3, 2009 17:25:10 GMT
And it would seem the individual vehicles have less detail than the transforming versions. How odd.
-Ralph
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 3, 2009 18:49:50 GMT
Disappointingly it looks like they skipped the Heinrad-style articulated testicles.
I think I would be chucking Mixmaster out the window after about five minutes. Think I'll avoid this one and stick with Takara's EZ Collection one.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 3, 2009 21:08:49 GMT
Seeing it at Botcon I was quite impressed with it. It really is huge. Probably as much plastic as Fort Max, actually maybe more. I wont be paying £100 but I really doubt it will stay that price. then again the Bumblebee never dropped low enough to convince me.
The only thing more impressive was the box. Never before has any Transformers come with such a large box.
So what would people pay for it?
I might be tempted at £50 maybe £66 if there was a third off sale.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Jul 3, 2009 21:21:26 GMT
£30 max.
Mostly because the vehicles look so cheap, and the whole figure looks so boring, I'd need a mad discount to even consider it.
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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2009 23:38:37 GMT
£20 max in a bargain bin, £10 max years later at a car boot sale. As I've said before, this is pretty much a glorified Megazord set. Those things retail for around £50 (whatever butchered Super Sentai stuff is out around then), not that I look up Power Rangers stuff of course  . Nice voice chip btw. I am sure a few of these will sell for the £100 asking price, but likely to anyone who probably does'nt know better. ===KEN |
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Post by blueshift on Jul 4, 2009 8:22:15 GMT
What strikes me from the review is that it really doesn't have that many gimmicks at all. Just the head raising and the voice. For something so mind bogglingly expensive, you'd imagine it to have more bells and whistles.
It seems like the only reason the constructicons dont have robot modes is because the whole thing would be too floppy and fall down. I can't think of any other reason, and it is a poor reason. I wouldn't even have minded really really crappy robot modes!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 4, 2009 9:00:12 GMT
In years to come, a generation will point at this toy and ask: "why?"
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 4, 2009 19:04:09 GMT
As the years have passed I have come to dislike more and more non-uniform-coloured combiners, as opposed to the likes of the original Constructicons, and the original Predacons. Given that the film needed a combiner _and_ separate Constructicons, they should have had all the combining ones a uniform colour, so that they would (a) look better, and (b) clearly be different characters from those that could transform into robots and had individual names. Devastator would then be effectively a Duocon, only with six vehicles joining together.
Thinks me, anyway.
Martin
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Post by legios on Jul 5, 2009 20:07:00 GMT
Did the non-combining Constructicons have names in the film? For that matter did Devastator actually get named? I must have missed it if they did get identified. At least the Devastator in the first film was identified by his subtitles, which puts him one up on his namesake.
As to uniform-vs-non-uniformed coloured combiners I swither a little on this. On the one hand, I do think they look more impressive when they have a unified colour scheme that carries through all the components(I would have quite liked it if the Movie re-release of Energon Superion had used the grey with red and yellow trim colour scheme from Airazor across all of the component units). On the other hand when they are assembled from components that are supposed to have separate colour schemes I quite like the assembled-from-mis-matched-parts look as well. I remain undecided/conditional on this I guess.
My problem with Movie Devastator as a toy is that he uses the same basic enginering concepts as Bandai's Sentai mecha, costs the price of two Super Sentai toys, but is clearly not twice as good as a Sentai toy. Thus making him heavily overpriced in my view. (Theoretically that is, I don't actually want the toy in any way shape or form - and having seen the film I have lost any lingering temptation to buy the EZ-collection version either).
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 5, 2009 20:15:00 GMT
Someone shouted : "DEVASTATOR!" on screen, but it was unclear who.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 5, 2009 20:15:24 GMT
I believe Devastator was named, but the individual components were. Going by just the film, Devastator is one guy formed from a load of vehicles.
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Post by legios on Jul 5, 2009 20:17:12 GMT
Someone shouted : "DEVASTATOR!" on screen, but it was unclear who. -Ralph Ah, I must have missed that.(Either that or the cinema's sound system mangled it a bit - like Jazz' dialogue in the 2007 film). Ta muchly. Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 5, 2009 20:18:32 GMT
It was from the far left stereo field IIRC.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 6, 2009 6:16:32 GMT
Did the non-combining Constructicons have names in the film? For that matter did Devastator actually get named? Devastator and Rampage were both named. Rampage was named while Devastator was elsewhere, so the red bit of Devastator definitely wasn't Rampage. I suppose that the obvious inference to make is that Devastator from the first film was brought back to life as a bunch of combining construction vehicles in the second film. And killed again. They seemed to have a similar level of intelligence, capacity for conversation, single-minded determination and walking speed. That would make sense for improvised/un-planned combiners - robots who existed as separate individuals and then gained the ability to combine. Doesn't convince me when the robots were designed as combiners in the first place (as most Special Teams were). I think that if non-combining teams like the original Dinobots, Insecticons and Jumpstarters managed to colour-co-ordinate, Special Teams have even more reason to do so. Aesthetically, of course. No practical reason whatsoever. Martin |
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Post by Nigel on Jul 6, 2009 10:29:10 GMT
I suppose that the obvious inference to make is that Devastator from the first film was brought back to life as a bunch of combining construction vehicles in the second film. You've reminded me that that was what I was expecting to happen in the film. Having briefly seen the non-humanoid form of Demolishor, the combined Devastator toy and with the Devastator name having been used in the first film, I was expecting the defeated Decepticons to return as cobbled-together grunts. I think that was probably before I knew for certain that The Fallen would be a character, when there was still speculation whether "Revenge of the Fallen" referred to the the fallen Decepticons or Fallen Dave. |
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Post by primenova on Jul 6, 2009 12:27:16 GMT
But Rampage is yellow in the toy [unless the boxes i've looked at have wrong names on them] ever thought the character who looks like the Rampage toy in jack hammer mode was red in the film.
But i quite like the idea of the duocon that Martin stated - apart from the fact it explains the mess up with Devastator combined while ones who looked like his parts where fighting near by.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 6, 2009 13:00:27 GMT
Yes, Rampage-as-named in the film was red the Devastator component was yellow. Who Hasbro have also called Rampage, despite it can't being the same character.
Oh how confusing.
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Post by Nigel on Jul 16, 2009 9:50:02 GMT
My apologies if this has already been mentioned: TRU has the Robot Heroes scenes boxed sets at £19.99.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 19, 2009 20:07:21 GMT
Sainsbury have a nice cardboard display stand out. Does Ravage connect to the underside of the Blue bigger Soundwave toy? Is there a larger Soundwave toy? Sainsbury's has quite a few toys, Asda none. |
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Post by grahamthomson on Dec 4, 2009 8:38:33 GMT
Is ROTF Voyager Long Haul out here in the UK yet?
Hasbro UK didn't skip it, did they?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 4, 2009 12:00:35 GMT
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