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Post by blueshift on Dec 10, 2011 11:59:28 GMT
He has a point in that Transformers wouldn't be like humans, but what he SEEMS to say is that none of them have any personalities because they don't have relationships with women or something ridiculous.
I would perhaps be more inclined to be sympathetic if his human characters were exciting and interesting, but if anything they were worse.
I gathered that he is saying he hated writing it and that he didn't understand any of the characters at all, but dammit he hung on for 30 issues, and it is the readers fault that no-one liked the comic he hated writing. Also there were only 20 people who hated it who were pretending to be everyone else online talking about like some sort of conspiracy. It's baffling.
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Post by verity on Dec 10, 2011 12:07:43 GMT
I've read a bit of Cobra and I've read some Blackhawks and I think the problem for Costa might also be that he's rather limited in the kind of stories he writes, so I can see why he might have a problem writing Transformers. Because "relationships" (and I use the term loosely because it seems more focused on the male lead hitting it off with the female lead, which not much depth and development going into it) and sex and such do seem to always feature in the Costa story template - and it seems to me he wrote Spike in the series so he could adhere to said template, instead of finding new ways and new motivations and different stories in the actual main characters (the Transformers). And it's a real shame, because it seems the moments he really shines with Transformers is when he leaves all that behind and just focuses on the Transformers themselves.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 11, 2011 16:31:41 GMT
I have now heard the interview in context, in full. I have no idea what the internet is moaning about.
I am not a fan of his work, but he's fine in the interview. What plain text extracts miss is tone and context.
-Ralph
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Dec 11, 2011 17:58:30 GMT
(WHY didn't TFW's summary link to the bloody podcast, or even point out it's from Moonbase 2?) Going through the podcast and when it's spoken w/ tone and context, it doesn't sound as dismissive and it's more obvious that he's genuinely struggled and not passing the buck. (Though that still leaves the problem that he's had a problem on TFs that few other regulars seem to have had) |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 11, 2011 18:42:32 GMT
There was a pissing match between FMH (where the podcast is hosted) and TFW* when the former started up as a news site. That may account for it (essentially there was some alleged bullying type behaviour going on from the latter, ie news stories being lifted from FMH without credit, etc). That may account for the lack of link. -Ralph *At least I think it was that site. If I am in error, please clarify! |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 11, 2011 18:43:55 GMT
No you are spot on.
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Dec 11, 2011 19:04:54 GMT
Okay, until I'd heard that podcast, I honestly didn't realise that the Matrix was meant to be completely spent and used up in the last page there. There was a pissing match between FMH (where the podcast is hosted) and TFW* when the former started up as a news site. That may account for it (essentially there was some alleged bullying type behaviour going on from the latter, ie news stories being lifted from FMH without credit, etc). That may account for the lack of link. Oh god. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2011 19:38:23 GMT
Yeah, he comes across fine in the actual interview, and I found him quite interesting, too, even if I'm not a fan of his work. I'm even willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with his "just 20 fans across gazillion forums" comment - think he was just over-exaggerating the number to get across the point that the forum posters only make up a minority of the fandom.
Speaking of exaggeration, assumptions, and not going straight to the source, the resultant thread over at tfw2005 would do The News of the World proud...
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Post by legios on Dec 11, 2011 19:47:56 GMT
Speaking of exaggeration, assumptions, and not going straight to the source, the resultant thread over at tfw2005 would do The News of the World proud... Oh indeed. I stopped reading the TFW2005 thread very swiftly indeed. But that is not really a change from my usual pattern. I have not had a chance to actually listen to the interview as yet but I shall be doing so in due course I have no doubt. I wasn't a fan of his work on Transformers but I don't really have anything against the man himself - a sentiment that does not appear to be shared by all corners of the Internet. Karl |
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Post by KnightBeat on Dec 12, 2011 19:32:01 GMT
What, if anything, does Mike Costa say about #31? It contains some good artwork (Coller does a fantastic job of combining different art styles) and it's great to have some variety in the storytellling by jumping to different points in the TF timeline (I was reminded of the TFUK Victory and Babylon 5 Deconstruction of Falling Stars stories when reading it). However, its placement within the main series is a little odd. It reads more like a Continuum-style one-shot comic to help new readers, rather than the penultimate issue of an ongoing comic.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 12, 2011 19:40:06 GMT
It's a homage to Peter David's last issue of his 12-year Incredible Hulk run.
-Ralph
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Dec 13, 2011 19:15:44 GMT
The bits with Ironhide feeling confused by all the hero-worship and awed by the future he's lived in are very good, but the storytelling and flashbacks don't work: Casey Collier does great work on the flashbacks but they're still just splash pages in a decompressed comic, and the kiddiebots just look like normal Autobots (but short).
I do like the little throwaway "is it true you can only turn into one thing?" and the idea that Wheelie has become a legendary figure (and, based on his statue, Cosmos).
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Post by legios on Dec 13, 2011 20:26:11 GMT
Just listening to the Costa interview at the moment. A very good interview - Mike Costa has a lot of interesting, well-thought out things to say. I find myself agreeing with quite a lot of that which he has to say.
I'd like to say that I can't understand why some of the Internet has been so angry about the interview... unfortunately I suspect that most of the angry folk out there probably haven't taken the time to actually listen to that which is making them angry.
I haven't really changed my position that I'm not particularly enthused by Mike Costa's Transformers work, but I certainly haven't got anything against him as a person and he is an interesting person to listen to talk about this stuff.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2011 1:08:28 GMT
It's a homage to Peter David's last issue of his 12-year Incredible Hulk run. -Ralph It fails. The reason being PAD's last issue looked to the potential future that the book would have had if he's stayed on it, tantalising glimpses into the future, married with insight into the characters. Costa's issue - navel gazing of the highest order with nothing new to say. Andy |
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Post by primenova on Dec 15, 2011 13:26:45 GMT
Just read #24-26 last night. Like how those guns turn out to be Megatrons escape route & extra armour.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2011 9:43:06 GMT
It's a homage to Peter David's last issue of his 12-year Incredible Hulk run. -Ralph It fails. The reason being PAD's last issue looked to the potential future that the book would have had if he's stayed on it, tantalising glimpses into the future, married with insight into the characters. Costa's issue - navel gazing of the highest order with nothing new to say. Andy I have to agree, it really doesn't work very well |
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Post by primenova on Jun 8, 2012 6:10:41 GMT
I'm going to get the trade for IDW - just got v5,7 yesterday as needed #19,22,23,31. Like the art bit on the back of v7. Also need to get v1,3 as need #2-4,15,17.
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