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Post by kayevcee on Jul 3, 2014 9:40:52 GMT
Flicked through issue 30 again last night.
I forgot how much Megatron appears to be straight up freaking out in the "reaction shot" to the disappearing wall in the med centre. Everyone else looks pretty philosophical by comparison. I suppose, as a miner turned galactic despot Megatron hasn't had that much experience of the exploration aspect of galactic conquest, and his exposure to the unfettered weirdness of the Pioneer Experience has been kind of limited. Could be interesting to see the contrast between his and the old hands' reactions to the inevitable kaleidoscope of madness to come.
-Nick
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 3, 2014 9:51:10 GMT
The freaking out to the vanishing ship appears to be his second rather emotional 'outburst' as he reacted the same to the idea of Chromedome rummaging around inside his head. Suspicious... Perhaps this is all virtual..??
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Post by Llama God on Jul 3, 2014 13:10:09 GMT
Interesting comments there. I don't think I agree with FortMax's idea, though - that would be far too straightforward for Roberts. ;-)
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 3, 2014 14:41:18 GMT
Indeed! I doubt it is even Megatron in there! :-)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 3, 2014 14:55:13 GMT
It's Megatron alright. Changed by the ore during Dark Cybertron, weakened by the fuel but it's Megatron
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 3, 2014 17:03:33 GMT
Hmm... We'll see.......
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 3, 2014 17:31:28 GMT
Phil- you think Megatron's change of heart is due to the "change" ore that Shockwave brought in in Dark Cybertron? First time I've heard that, I must say. You could be right- and it provides a handy explanation for any later face/heel turn on Megatron's part down the line.
To be honest, I'm happy to see the back of Shockwave's ores. They always felt like a poor man's infinity gems to me, only without the magical elements that allow the gems to make sense.
-Nick
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 3, 2014 17:55:18 GMT
I heard it suggested elsewhere and it fits what we can see.
I mean there's no way Megatron will stay an Autobot forever is there?
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 3, 2014 18:12:12 GMT
Mmmm. Not convinced in the slightest by how Megs got out of his trial. Hitler wouldn't have been given command of a US Army unit if he had survived the war. Felt too much like 'Megatron needs to stay because it is a Transformer comic and must always have Megatron in it'. I don't think that was the intent. It's just how it read to me.
It was a fun tie-in comic issue but limited by being a Transformers comic. Megatron getting out of his trial has broken my suspension of disbelief.
Getting a bit tired of Rodimus' character ticks too. I think there's also a problem in that I'm not sure why the comic is still going. It felt like it had reached a natural end when the Lost Light reached Cybertron.
Intrigued by what will happen next though as it promises a new direction. Even when this series isn't quite working for me it's still better put together than most comics in the current market.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 3, 2014 18:24:49 GMT
I heard it suggested elsewhere and it fits what we can see. I mean there's no way Megatron will stay an Autobot forever is there? The way franchise media works, it's inevitable. |
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Post by chrisl on Jul 4, 2014 8:15:10 GMT
One thing that is playing on my mind about this series is the idea that it isn't Megatron in that body but Nautilator - who Roberts set up in issue 12 as sounding exactly like Megatron. Also if you look at the Seacons listed on the wiki who attempted to rescue Megatron, Nautilator isn't there.....
The whole business about the fuel to dampen his strength, etc etc could just be smoke and mirrors to deflect attention from the fact that this clearly isn't the real Megatron. The only question is, who would be behind it? The candidates that spring to mind for me are Prowl, Starscream, and Megatron himself. I can see the Megatron onboard the Lost Light being obliterated by the DJD or Overlord. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if Tarn turned out to be the real Megatron......
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 4, 2014 9:28:32 GMT
One thing that is playing on my mind about this series is the idea that it isn't Megatron in that body but Nautilator - who Roberts set up in issue 12 as sounding exactly like Megatron. Also if you look at the Seacons listed on the wiki who attempted to rescue Megatron, Nautilator isn't there..... When would they have swapped Nautilator for Megatron? Can't have been before Dark Cybertron, cos he's in the Lost Light's brig till then which means the Megatron stuff in Dark Cybertron WAS him. IF he's swapped the most likely point is after the trial when Megatron has his new body. |
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Post by Llama God on Jul 4, 2014 13:00:55 GMT
Isn't Nautilator dead? I mean, he had his head blown off. But I guess that's no impediment to a Transformer going on to live a healthy and fulfilling life, so maybe not...
Nah, I'm pretty convinced that this is *the* Megatron, but one who, through the various happenings over recent years (remember, they "won" during AHM) has had time to question... pretty much everything. I'm kind of buying this. If only because it's leading to some interesting character stuff.
As to letting him off that easily... don't forget who's currently running Cybertron. Yes, the people voted him in, but Starscream pretty much said in his previous speech that every other Decepticon was just as guilty as, if not more so than, Megs. To have actually sentenced him would have opened up a whole can of worms, that I think Prime was probably happier to avoid...
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 4, 2014 14:25:47 GMT
Personally I thought it was well handled. Megs had his legal escape route if it came to it. How genuine his repentance is we have yet to see... I'm sure the path will not be a straight one.
I'm 90% certain it's Nick R under all that armour!
And glad to see someone else getting fed up of HR. I was expecting James to have done something more with his maturity by now. Other than, well, what we saw in the last issue...
i.e. being dead.
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Post by chrisl on Jul 4, 2014 14:30:29 GMT
My only reason for this is that James does not mention something in MTMTE unless it is necessary, and I can't think of why the information that Nautilator and Megatron sound the same would be necessary unless....
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Post by Llama God on Jul 4, 2014 16:46:44 GMT
...unless *both* Megatrons won today, Ravage! Both Megatrons won...
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 4, 2014 17:51:28 GMT
*mourns*
I think the secret to all this is likely to lie in an analysis of how the trend in the number of frames per page vs issue page count varies between issues.
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 4, 2014 17:59:21 GMT
Something's driving me crazy about the rescue attempt in issue 30, in that I recognise all but one of the would-be rescuers. The squad is composed of members of the Horrorcons (Snapdragon at least), the Terrorcons, the Not-Terrorcons (green-and-yellow Blip is there instead of Blot), the Seacons, the Stormtroopers and... some white and orange guy with big feet and wheels on his heels and behind his head. Who the hell is he? He appears three times- jumping out of a drop-ship next to Blip, getting swatted with the Magnus Hammer along with Hydradread, Rippersnapper and Rage, then on the next page getting his head squeezed by Broadside.
Who is he? I recognise everyone else! WHO IS HE?
-Nick
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 4, 2014 18:17:33 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 4, 2014 18:20:08 GMT
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Post by kayevcee on Jul 4, 2014 19:41:30 GMT
Yeah, that guy. Bulletbike looks like the most likely candidate. Thanks Phil, and thank you to the hard working folks at TFwiki!
-Nick
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 7, 2014 21:09:28 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 8, 2014 13:57:57 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 9, 2014 8:30:39 GMT
Apparently it's Ammo.
Is that a massive hint to a long running plot point on page 3 in the hand dialogue in the preview:
WHO'S briefcase full of cash?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 27, 2014 21:33:31 GMT
MTMTE 32: that's some damm good squishy
I didn't expect the DJD but there again I suspect that nobody expects the DJD
And that ending opens up a myriad of story telling possibilities all of them with tragic endings
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 27, 2014 22:39:14 GMT
And the lift scene! So clever.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 29, 2014 18:03:24 GMT
I didn't get the lift scene. I mean, I see the numbers counting down are the order in which to read the panels, but why were they printed out of order?
Loved the issue though, especially the Megatron/Ravage scene.
Also loved this month's Robots in Disguise, but I do have one question about it.
Prowl mentioned Scrapper. Is he alive? I haven't seen him.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2014 18:20:48 GMT
RID: an error
MTMTE, in the lift because Nightbeat opened the brief case. Whatever is inside is repsonsible but they can't tell
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Post by Llama God on Aug 30, 2014 21:17:18 GMT
Well I'm assuming that...
Inside the briefcase was some sort of time bomb. Literally, a bomb that breaks time.
OR it was the end results of Brainstorm's metafictional bomb, and the narrative of their quest is starting to rewrite itself. One of the two.
Which of course begs the timey-wimey question: Who opened the briefcase in the first place? Or was it Nightbeat opening the briefcase that caused the whole problem in the first place? Here's hoping that Roberts doesn't go all Moffat on us...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2014 21:58:49 GMT
Don't forget, Brainstorm has mucked about with time before: See Spotlight Trailbreaker
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