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Post by jasonw on Jan 10, 2013 0:23:37 GMT
Issue 13 - Holy crap. That was... mental...
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 10, 2013 9:09:54 GMT
It all better be explained next issue!
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Post by legios on Jan 10, 2013 20:36:10 GMT
Hmmm. #13 then. I find that I am starting to think about putting this title on probation at the moment. I find myself empathising with Starscream quite a bit in this episode. As he observes, there was a really clever plan going on, one that hadn't been tried before.... and now the town is on fire, lots of things are blowing up and the Autobots are shooting at the Decepticons. It is like business as usual is in the process of resuming and like Starscream I find myself somewhat frustrated with that prospect.
I'm willing to cut Barber some slack - he is a competent writer and might still have something up his sleeve other than a return to the old status quo. I'd like to think so. I shall give it another issue or so to see where all of this is pointing but at the moment it does feel like the return of Megatron may have sent myself and this book on slightly divergent paths. Megatron was the last character I really want to see again - there have been too many Megatrons recently as it is, time for someone else to hog centre stage - and he feels like he brings a crate load of old baggage with him. But then, I may well be an outlier in sentiment as far as this is concerned - wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't be the last. Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 10, 2013 21:05:48 GMT
RID TPB v2 arrived today. Looking forward to this
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 10, 2013 21:49:43 GMT
Hmmm. #13 then. I find that I am starting to think about putting this title on probation at the moment. I find myself empathising with Starscream quite a bit in this episode. As he observes, there was a really clever plan going on, one that hadn't been tried before.... and now the town is on fire, lots of things are blowing up and the Autobots are shooting at the Decepticons. It is like business as usual is in the process of resuming and like Starscream I find myself somewhat frustrated with that prospect.
I'm willing to cut Barber some slack - he is a competent writer and might still have something up his sleeve other than a return to the old status quo. I'd like to think so. I shall give it another issue or so to see where all of this is pointing but at the moment it does feel like the return of Megatron may have sent myself and this book on slightly divergent paths. Megatron was the last character I really want to see again - there have been too many Megatrons recently as it is, time for someone else to hog centre stage - and he feels like he brings a crate load of old baggage with him. But then, I may well be an outlier in sentiment as far as this is concerned - wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't be the last. Karl Indeed. RiD keeps swerving between well thought out political drama in a new era and random twist turns things on its head just before things get resolved. Maybe it has done this too often for it's own good now.
Still hopeful the trade off will be worth while.
Clearly Prowl has been manipulating things to a level far beyond what we suspected given that the Constructicons are alive, he appears allied with Megatron and the more hard-core Decepticons, has now abducted Wheeljack and from the look of it double-crossed everyone including Arcee (never a good thing!).
I will require a good explanation and output from this or I shall be very weary in the future.
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Post by Jim on Jan 20, 2013 9:38:49 GMT
Finally found time to read #13. Griffith really on fine form here. I share the misgivings regarding Megatron but at the same time thoroughly enjoyed reading this, and even if it does take the less interesting route I'm finding it more than entertaining enough to stick with.
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Post by jasonw on Feb 21, 2013 14:28:21 GMT
Issue 14 is up on ibooks already, been there since Monday fro 99p.
Has anyone read it yet? Holy, holy f--k.
I'm loving this series at the moment.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 27, 2013 20:58:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 12:22:27 GMT
Loved this issue. Even though some aspects were predictable (Prowl; the last page), it was still action-movie type enjoyable. In fact, I enjoy this series more than MTMTE (which can get a bit Whedon-esque where everyone is either witty and smug or the butt of the jokes for the witty and smug). ...have I been lynched yet?  |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Feb 28, 2013 16:43:06 GMT
{SPOILERS WITHIN}I felt quite sorry for Prowl, but did like how it was Bombshell all along, but was so perfectly consistent with Prowl.
Not quite sure where this Transformers can naturally combine if motivated right thing is coming from. I can get Prowl's new body being engineered to merge with the Constructicons but it doesn't explain Superion.
And giant over-sized combiners who have fists bigger than individual Transformers! GAH!! My peet TF peeve! Enough! |
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Post by jasonw on Mar 1, 2013 9:43:53 GMT
{SPOILERS WITHIN}I felt quite sorry for Prowl, but did like how it was Bombshell all along, but was so perfectly consistent with Prowl.
Not quite sure where this Transformers can naturally combine if motivated right thing is coming from. I can get Prowl's new body being engineered to merge with the Constructicons but it doesn't explain Superion.
And giant over-sized combiners who have fists bigger than individual Transformers! GAH!! My peet TF peeve! Enough! Don't know how to post spoiler text so I'll be vague. I got the idea that they'd been engineered to do that rather than it happening organically, possibly post AHM? |
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Post by legios on Mar 1, 2013 21:55:58 GMT
Hmm. Read #14 on the train on the way back from the cinema this evening. I am thinking that this story-arc might be my cue to jump off this comic. We have had several issues in a row without the things that I was enjoying about this comic being present, and the explanations that we have had regarding some of the things that have been going on feel like the least interesting ones available Prowl's motivation, the planets tendency to drive the unwary insane - a Master Plan of Megatron's, Megatrons plan to react to the new status quo........ I think I am going to shift this to an "in due course" digital purchase, post the price-drop and see how I feel about the next issue.
It isn't that it is a bad comic by any means, it is a perfectly good Transformers comic, it is just that it feels like it is becoming more and more of a piece with other Transformers comics that we have had before and that wasn't what originally got me onboard with it.
Karl
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Post by Jim on Mar 3, 2013 10:23:07 GMT
I am disappointed with the direction this title has gone in, though it continues to be so well crafted that I'm sticking with it. For me it's like Lost post-season 2 (though without the season 3 tedium) - disappointing that it's not fulfilling its promise but still entertaining enough. I'd really hoped the Prowl we'd been seeing was just one who'd become somewhat morally compromised and would swing back on a satisfying character arc to holding on to ideals again. Mind control is such a cop-out. -Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 17:20:03 GMT
#16 leaves us with yet another new status quo, and not one I was expecting at all. One thing good about this book is the constant change in the dynamic. Interesting times ahead.
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Post by Jim on Apr 18, 2013 21:38:48 GMT
Just read it. Am still kind of disappointed really, and the new status quo doesn't interest me greatly. Also felt the art lacked a bit this issue, a few not so clear panels. It feels like a potential jumping off point, but I'll give it a bit more time.
-Jim
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Post by legios on Apr 19, 2013 15:43:17 GMT
To be honest my interest in this book has been declining since Megatron returned. After last issue, which felt like it was sidelining everything I had been interested in to give room to robots fighting the same battles I've seen over and over, I was kind of halfway out of the door. I'm not sure that the preview for #16 did anything to make me change that position. Since Megs came back it felt that the book was trending back to "the heroic auto bots wage battle to destroy the evil forces of the deceptions" and I kind of feel like That version of Transformers is already available if I want it. I may check in with wiki summaries in due course to find out what the new status quo is and see if that induces me to return.
Karl.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 19, 2013 16:10:42 GMT
The problem with RID is that status quo was never going to last. I'm not sure what I think of the events of 16 now I've read it, but don't think the new status quo represents a stable situation.... and there's already a built in time bomb for blowing it wide open.
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Post by legios on Apr 19, 2013 20:40:57 GMT
In retrospect I should have dropped the book when Megatron returned. My gut said that this would go in directions that I wasn't going to be enthused about. I gave it the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately my gut-feeling has been somewhat borne out. Ah well. Opens up a slot in the small comics budget for something else so it is all good, as the saying goes.
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Post by Jim on Apr 19, 2013 23:21:04 GMT
For me it's that in the first 10 issues or so it so often hinted at doing something more clever that now that it's gone the obvious, some would say inevitable, way it's hard not to feel disappointed. The new status quo, as far as we know it, might yield some fun but also feels like a retrograde step. I was half expecting a twist this issue with Bumblebee's narration at the start hinting at the one Transformer, I thought we might have someone come out of left field. i.e.
Where's Shockwave?
I'm currently hoping for the arrival of the Weak Anthropic Principle with Grimlock in tow to inject some fun into proceedings, but Barber is bloodthirsty enough that I also fear it a bit. -Jim |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 15, 2013 19:43:29 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 8, 2014 8:05:21 GMT
I read volume 4 from the library. The return of Megatron turned out to be not much more than: "BAWAHAAHHAHAHAAH! I AM EEEEEEEVIL AND ALL THE AUTOBOTS MUST DIEEEE AND THAT IS ALL MY PLAAAAAN IS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Pish.
We've seen this kind of thing a hundred times before. Very boring.
On its own merits it was ok but I'm done with 'The Nth Return of Megatron Doing The Same Thing Again' stories. Nothing to pull me back unless it's in the library and thus free to read!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Apr 8, 2014 8:56:07 GMT
That was the arc at which I dropped RiD. I got two-thirds of the way through with my interest waning with each issue and then decided I couldn't justify the cost of it. There was nothing actually wrong with it on a technical level, but it wasn't a story I had any in.
Might consider picking up next months issue, see if the new direction is to my taste. But with budgetary constraints I shall have to see which one of RiD and MTME I'll be sticking with in succeding months.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 8, 2014 11:59:51 GMT
As a quick read in a trade it was ok even though I found the overall direction banal but spread over five months in single issues I would have lost my patience, I think. For the IDW universe of five years ago it would have passed muster but not now. I did like the art and some story beats here and there but I couldn't get past it being just another 'Megatron comes back and is eeeeeeeevil because he just is' story again.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 8, 2014 14:22:36 GMT
I can't say much more without spoiling Dark Cybertron but the book has a very different status quo post DC.
post dc Megatron is going in a very different direction but not in this book
I'd been struggling with RID pre DC..... It was better during it but only due to having bits of MTMTE in it, and MTMTE suffered by having bits of RID.
RIDpost DC .... the preview didn't set my world on fire.
MTHMTE post DC preview...... Oh yeah the good stuff is back!
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Post by legios on Apr 8, 2014 19:03:09 GMT
I think I am going to sample the post Dark Cybertron issues of both RiD and MTME, then decide which one to stick with (won't be picking up both). At the moment I am expecting the decision will go to MTME but I am prepared to give RiD a fair shake so it gets an issue to sell its new setup to me.
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 23, 2014 9:43:57 GMT
I've read it....
Bits were ok..
But I got to the end and was "meh, how silly is that"!
MTMTE next week
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 24, 2014 16:02:57 GMT
I read it and quite enjoyed it. It's quite a change of pace from it's previous issues following Dark Cybertron. A fun first issue and some very promising plot threads to be addressed as it goes on. I've also reviewed it for the Underbase along with my Beast Hunters cohorts Grufflock and Mikey, and you will be pleased to know Susie makes herself known throughout the podcast too! theunderbase.libsyn.com/the-underbase-review-robots-in-disguise-28 to direct download or subscribe via iTunes. Andy |
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Post by Jim on Apr 24, 2014 21:05:45 GMT
Read it on the way home tonight, thought it was quite fun, curious to see where it goes. Nice to see classic Transformers back on Earth again, I've never held much with the "all robots, all the time" crowd (though I think Griffith needs to practice his human faces a bit).
I think I could happily read a Thundercracker solo series now.
-Jim
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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2014 20:24:02 GMT
Caught up on this series. After the low point of the 'bwahahahaha Megatron is back and eeeeeeevil' storyline, the setup issues for Dark Cybertron were excellent and the latest issue sets up an interesting new storyline. I hope nothing happens to the dog though.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 4, 2014 20:25:02 GMT
Indeed.
Dogs in fiction must always survive.
Andy
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