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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2014 20:28:44 GMT
There was a terrible moment when the fighting kicked off at the end in Thundercracker's house and I thought we were going to cut to a panel of a squashed dog. Thankfully we didn't.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on May 5, 2014 5:57:46 GMT
Great stuff! I'm going to pretend this is Regeneration One #81. Looking forward to finding out why the humans are now so friendly with the Decepticons. Martin |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 5, 2014 7:17:20 GMT
Looking forward to finding out why the humans are now so friendly with the Decepticons. Martin Especially given how upset they were with Prime for being too chummy with the *ex*-Decepticon leader.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 28, 2014 16:20:36 GMT
Read 29 this morning. Really didn't do much for me. Thundercracker's dog Gotta die hasn't it? Show the dog, kill the dog just for the sudience reaction And Humans, why am I finding them such a switch off in a TF book? About the only reason to read the book is Prowl. He looks like he's heading for a bad place with his own combining robot army. The conversation he had with Chromedome at the end of Dark Cybertron would lead you to think so. and events this issue only serve to confirm it with him taking matters into his own hands and his disatifaction with the trial verdict The question is when is it all going to blow up? |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 28, 2014 17:08:01 GMT
I think the problem with the humans is that in the IDW universe we have seen they (and Earth) are not a special part of the wider universe. There's nothing wrong with that and you can still have some good Earth based stories (indeed we did with Furman's run). Now however either Hasbro or IDW seem determined to *force* stories to revolve around them to make them important (like with Drift and Windblade etc). Unfortunately such stories come out very poorly for doing so as humans are still unimportant. I find myself put off by the reuse of Sunbow character names as well.
Read the preview for this issue. That was enough for me to decide to pass on the series again after not engaging well with the previous issue.
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Post by The Doctor on May 29, 2014 21:23:56 GMT
Not keen on #29. Fairborne feels like she came out of a daft cartoon and the humans appear to have been dropped on their heads. Prime has also turned stupid. Actually, everyone has caught Moron Disease.
Apes AHM just a bit too well!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 13:40:12 GMT
Read issues 28 and 29. I only like Cosmos. And he's hardly in it.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 1, 2014 15:59:06 GMT
Burns just made me read this. I am very upset. It was pretty terrible all round. Poor Jetfire as well. Graphene indeed...
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Post by Jim on Jun 1, 2014 18:40:39 GMT
I'm finding there's just enough that I like / find intriguing that I'll keep reading for the moment. Thundercracker is good value, and there's something unique and interesting about Prowl and the Constructicons status quo.
Thinking back though I did find the first 6-7 issues of RID good before it sadly nosedived, never quite making any of the interesting sub-plots pay off in the long run. I guess I'm a sucker for these comics...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 1, 2014 19:00:17 GMT
I have to say I liked it, although the humans must be playing a shell game with the Decepticons because if not it's the most asinine portrayal of them yet in Transformers.
I'm enjoying RID, and I think we are going to get some interesting stuff with Prowl down the line.
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Post by Jim on Jun 1, 2014 19:37:38 GMT
Prowl is definitely where it's at with RID, and I believe Barber is on the record with him being his favourite character.
I did find the twist with Prowl in the first "season" a big disappointment in that it managed to make the earlier issues retrospectively *less* interesting which is the exact opposite of what a twist should achieve. I thought we were seeing something along the lines of The Shield with Prowl as the policeman who has gone too far.
Still, him as the semi-reluctant leader of the Constructicons does have some potential.
-Jim
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 2, 2014 19:45:08 GMT
The humans' reasoning is apparently illogical, but I'm still enjoying a return to Earth TF comic where Earth actually resembles Earth. I haven't seen much of Prowl as leader of the Constructicons yet, but what I see so far I like.
MTMTE also remains highly entertaining.
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Post by primenova on Jun 18, 2014 11:58:20 GMT
Does anyone else thing that Blurr upside looks a bit like Tarn - if you cover up the mouth.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 4, 2014 8:23:21 GMT
Okay, I have to admit, I'm actually enjoying RiD at the moment. It's not quite up to MTMTE standards, but it's definitely enjoyable, mostly because of the character interplay that Barber's got going on.
However. I was cynical about the reasoning behind the return to Earth, and had my suspicions behind the true, real-world reason, but thanks to being a little slow on the uptake I've only just realised I was right. Let's see. Optimus Prime, versus Galvatron, on an Earth where the humans are completely against Transformers? Now *why* does that sound familiar..?
Okay, so at the moment it's not as bad as All Hail Megatron, but was this *really* what Dark Cybertron was about? (Apart from being a major exercise at producing comics that could be packaged with toys, of course.) Resetting the franchise so that at least one of the comics would look a little more like the movies? Apart, of course, from one pretty important character being missing - which suggests that at least IDW aren't *completely* under Hasbro's direct control at the moment. Which can only be a good thing...
(As I've said elsewhere, yes, I know it's Friday, but I'm still allowed to be cynical...)
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 22, 2014 18:13:06 GMT
The latest issue is out and it's a bit Galvatron centric and is flashback-arrific and is setting some of the wheels in motion for combiner wars. {Spoiler}Biggest issue with it, Alpha Trion is a character that based on current events Optimus Prime would knock his head off with his various revelations during the issue and his attitude to them. Andy |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 0:09:55 GMT
Why is RID determined to take my favorite Beast Wars characters and throw them under lot's of buses?
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2014 22:51:41 GMT
Ugh, hated this issue. And yet enjoyed the Wheeljack issue so much. Frustrating comic.
There is a world of difference between Barber and Roberts world-building abilities. The historical stuff in this issue was just a drag and felt like it closed off interesting story avenues rather than created them (the "but that is for another story" stuff was irritating and lazy). Compare to Roberts who can do off-the-cuff world-enriching in single lines of dialogue which look like springboards for entire series.
Raimondelli was not on form here either, he seems to do much better with the more cinematic style of Primacy et al. Although he was also better during Dark Cybertron, so maybe he just isn't feeling the material.
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Post by legios on Nov 12, 2014 21:13:55 GMT
Another title I have been catching up with over recent days. I have a substantially more mixed view of this title than I do of MTME. It has at least picked up from the first post-Cybertron issue, which really did make me cringe a little (Especially it's cliffhanger ending - the whole framing of a random character who has barely been introduced standing in front of some tanks, holding a dog under one arm was probably meant to make me laugh, but I think it was probably intended to play on some level as drama as well. At the latter is was...less than successful). It probably doesn't help that every time she announces the name of their agency it makes me chuckle. "Earth Defence Command" is exactly the sort of name I came up with as an eight year old, and in context it completely destroys their credibility with me every time it is mentioned. Which is a shame, because the developing arc about repurposing and reverse engineering alien technology is a reasonable one, and Barber is making decent use of some of the stuff which was left lying around by earlier IDW comics.
There are elements that I am really enjoying. Prowl being exactly as ruthless as I feel he should be is for me the highlight of the book. He plays quite well off of the crew of complete numbnuts which are IDW's Constructicons, that whole relationship is quite entertaining. I quite like Galvatron as well - his tendency to let the mask slip and his casual attitude of superiority to everyone and everything is great.
Then there are elements that just don't work for me. The E.D.C, as mentioned they need a not-silly name if the creative team expects me to not find them hilarious. Optimus Prime - I am fairly bored with Optimus Prime, I will admit that my heart sank when he took back the name in Dark Cybertron. I understand that in these days of increased corporate organisation of secondary media there was no way that he wasn't going to be thrust back into the lead - after all he is the large toy each year so he has to get the most of the advertising. But it really doesn't feel like there is anything new to do with Prime now.
And... issue 34. I'm afraid that whilst reading it the slightly snarky side of my brain was busy translating Alpha Trion's dialogue into things like "Now I must tell you the bits of the Master Franchise Ring Binder that we are going to use henceforth in this comic". Although the moment that did make me snort my coffee accidentally was the bit that boiled down to "Such-and-such took the secret of making next years toys and hid it away, so you should look for it before the pack-in comic series starts". I chuckled and accidentally breathed some of my coffee. Fortunately this months issue has gone some way to restoring the title in my good graces - the addition of a new character who may as well be Tony Stark crossed with an Evil Steve Jobs is great, and I felt like I got my ration of Prowl shadiness this time around.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 12, 2014 22:02:29 GMT
I recently re-read RID. Really enjoyed the early issue but it lost something and has been on a downward spiral since. 33 was decent but other recent issues.... deary me. Today's just left me cold.
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Post by primenova on Nov 13, 2014 9:51:10 GMT
Should this thread be done new with the title just Transformers instead of RID?
That being with the new issue out doing the same.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 13, 2014 10:28:49 GMT
No, still the same series. But I've retitled the thread.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 25, 2014 23:01:37 GMT
The overall direction of what was formerly RID is quite interesting but has been hamstrung a little by the fact that the humans are so unbelievably stupid throughout. They make Triple I and RAAT look vaguely intelligent.
I've enjoyed Galvatron, it's nice that he has finally been given a personality of sorts given how long he has been around. The ongoing story of Prowl gathers pace, he clearly hasn't hit rock-bottom yet to be built back up into something resembling the Prowl we all know and enjoy. There has been good interplay between the characters in the books as well.
I have to say though my hatred of Sky Lynx wanes as I cannot abide Alpha Trion, he is such an annoying character and I cannot believe someone hasn't dismantled him by now, even Optimus would have ventilated him.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 15, 2015 8:05:37 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 18, 2015 19:39:30 GMT
TCFKARID is due this week as is the one shot Punishment that was previously an exclusive on the Madefire comics app.
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Post by legios on Jan 22, 2015 12:37:16 GMT
Please excuse Dr Science whilst I laugh maniacally at bits that weren't intended to be funny in this months TCFRID. Although honestly I am finding this title more frustrating than I did AHM. That was clearly doing something I had no interest in, so it was very easy to just shrug and not buy it. This has some good ideas buried under some very badly misfiring execution. There are ideas here I want to see explored. Just, as Sunbow Grimlock would say, more betterer.
Karl
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Post by Llama God on Jan 23, 2015 8:51:29 GMT
When you say unintentionally funny bits, do you mean...
...all that stuff to do with Uruk and Gilgamesh? 'Cos I kind of liked that. And although I'm aware that hominid evolution took place in Africa, and not the middle East, it's still kind of an interesting way of tying a lot of things together. And a lot better than discovering a big, Cybertronian pit that's millions of years old underneath the Earth... Maybe Garrison just doesn't know his history that well..?
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Post by legios on Jan 23, 2015 9:44:49 GMT
No, not that...
I thought that was hilarious - although it would have been funnier if any of the other characters acknowledged that claiming to be the descendant of a figure who may or may not have actually existed, and to be of the bloodline responsible for building the "first city on Earth" just makes Blackrock sound like a complete raving madman... (Of course, these are people so dim that they haven't even checked over the control code of the hardware that they have purchased to ensure that it is secure, or that they have a proper kill-switch facility for it so... (Can you tell that my opinion of the human characters in this comic is on an ever-descending curve?). No, his demented ramblings just made him sound like a low-rent Bond villain.
No, the bit that made Doctor Science laugh like a drain was the panel that shows Galvatron using his cannon to catapult himself into the air. So Galvatron's cannon, which has previously been depicted as some sort of Particle/Beam weapon produces enough recoil that it can exert more force on Galvatron's mass than gravity does... Leaving aside that any such thing that exerted that much force should make a dandy hole in the planet, the fact that it exerts enough force to actually move Galvatron in defiance of gravity poses an obvious problem in terms of its use as a weapon... For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and poor Galvatron must have to get used to travelling backwards a lot during battles...
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Honestly, I was glad of that sequence - because the rest of the comic was a bit lacklustre - especially Prowl's "sudden and unexpected betrayal". Really, were we not supposed to at least consider that was coming? (And the provision of yet another excuse for Prowl's actions, that combining makes you bonkers, does irritate me. It doesn't feel necessary to Prowl's story, whether that is a fall from "do what is necessary" to "everything is necessary" or a turning aside from the very utilitarian view of morality which was part of IDW Prowl from the very start. It feels like it is a crutch to a character arc which has been offered too many as it is.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 23, 2015 13:42:42 GMT
Still an issue behind behind as it doesnt justify £2.49, but overall I'm enjoying it.
At the very least if any Thundercracker is ever going to have a break down and go all pink it is this one.
The reuse of previous continuity humans or at least their names is starting to bug me a bit though.
The last issue did throw me, was it suggesting the "ation" series were set in the 1980s? And how has the kid from that series aged that much since when ever. Verity last seen in LSTOTW which is only what 5 years ago in continuity looked largely the same as in the ation comics.
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Post by primenova on Jan 23, 2015 14:25:06 GMT
I've not seen the comic yet - but the bit in the spoiler makes me thing of The Movie "Decepticons to Earth" & Galvatron moving (not saying much due to it being in spoiler)
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Post by Llama God on Jan 23, 2015 16:02:26 GMT
No, not that...
I thought that was hilarious - although it would have been funnier if any of the other characters acknowledged that claiming to be the descendant of a figure who may or may not have actually existed, and to be of the bloodline responsible for building the "first city on Earth" just makes Blackrock sound like a complete raving madman... (Of course, these are people so dim that they haven't even checked over the control code of the hardware that they have purchased to ensure that it is secure, or that they have a proper kill-switch facility for it so... (Can you tell that my opinion of the human characters in this comic is on an ever-descending curve?). No, his demented ramblings just made him sound like a low-rent Bond villain.
No, the bit that made Doctor Science laugh like a drain was the panel that shows Galvatron using his cannon to catapult himself into the air. So Galvatron's cannon, which has previously been depicted as some sort of Particle/Beam weapon produces enough recoil that it can exert more force on Galvatron's mass than gravity does... Leaving aside that any such thing that exerted that much force should make a dandy hole in the planet, the fact that it exerts enough force to actually move Galvatron in defiance of gravity poses an obvious problem in terms of its use as a weapon... For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and poor Galvatron must have to get used to travelling backwards a lot during battles...
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Honestly, I was glad of that sequence - because the rest of the comic was a bit lacklustre - especially Prowl's "sudden and unexpected betrayal". Really, were we not supposed to at least consider that was coming? (And the provision of yet another excuse for Prowl's actions, that combining makes you bonkers, does irritate me. It doesn't feel necessary to Prowl's story, whether that is a fall from "do what is necessary" to "everything is necessary" or a turning aside from the very utilitarian view of morality which was part of IDW Prowl from the very start. It feels like it is a crutch to a character arc which has been offered too many as it is.
Karl Eh, well, you see...
...his "cannon" is clearly multi-functional, and can either be used as a weapon *or* as a jetpack. These are, after all, giant robots what Transform. Do I have to think of everything..? ;-)
And, yeah, Prowl's about-face wasn't unexpected, but that's why I liked it - I was waiting for him to fuck everyone over, and he didn't disappoint. ;-)
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