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Post by Toph on Mar 18, 2012 20:35:47 GMT
Something I would have loved to see from the Club, or Botcon would be an exclusive and connected story. In an Animated setting, the exclusive would be one of the two Optimus deluxes (Would prefer the cybertronmode mold) painted white as Ultra Magnus.
The story would be a story set during the early days of the great war, about a young Ultra Minor (Or maybe Ultra Prime?), along with his friend Trailcutter (Sentinel Prime with a Trailbreaker deco)
A great way I feel to fully acknowledge G1 Magnus' complex history.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 19, 2012 10:47:39 GMT
I love the Supercon Battle in a Box Magnus so can't vote no.
But I do think it got a bit out of hand for a while.
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Post by Toph on Mar 19, 2012 18:07:01 GMT
Between Hasbro and Takara, at least the white magnus repaints never got as out of hand as the Black Convoy/Nemesis Prime repaints. Looks better, too.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 19, 2012 19:22:27 GMT
I love the Supercon Battle in a Box Magnus so can't vote no. But I do think it got a bit out of hand for a while. If only it wasn't outshone by the other tremendous toy in that box! -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 19, 2012 20:45:02 GMT
Don't get me started on that !
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 19, 2012 20:55:51 GMT
I love That Toy.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 19, 2012 22:43:52 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 20, 2012 8:20:58 GMT
Vindication!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 20, 2012 8:57:39 GMT
u were right I was wrong. Unlike with Nien Nunb.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 20, 2012 18:08:58 GMT
NIEN NUMB!! THE HERO OF THE BATTLE OF ENDOR!!
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 20, 2012 18:16:26 GMT
Don't start me.
-Ralph
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Post by shadowynne on Apr 15, 2012 22:31:18 GMT
heh kind of tricky as it seems to be two seperate questions...
is ultra magnus a white optimus prime? no
is it ok to repaint prime in white as ultra magnus? yes!
i always felt ultra magnus got the short end of the stick... cooler name, cooler paint job...
in fact my alternity ultra magnus is the leader of my autobot faction!
i like prime repaintts as i have never been wild over primes colour scheme. and being of the gothy persuation i am a fan of the nemisi prime repaints, which end up looking awesome next to an ultra magnus repaint... oh god the wfc takara nemisis prime/dark prime repaint is a thing of beauty! mmmmm that metalic red really works for me... i would love to see a white repaint of the wfc prime as well...
to sum up my feelings...
in the toy, white prime repaints are awesome
in the fiction, ultra magnus should definately have his own form...
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Post by Stomski on Jan 31, 2013 9:31:08 GMT
When did Ultra Magnus get a hammer/mallet?
He seems to have it everywhere now. Was it comics? A cartoon?
I don't remember him having one before Transformers Animated?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 31, 2013 9:39:17 GMT
Animated was where it happened: the toy had it and it's spread over the Magnus incarnations since. There's even an add on kit older toys with one in!
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Post by Stomski on Jan 31, 2013 10:29:15 GMT
Surely white shoulder cannons with red missiles should be his iconic weapon though  |
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Post by Toph on Jan 31, 2013 23:58:10 GMT
Well, technically, the only incarnation of UM that had the shoulder cannons is G1, and some reincarnation/redesigns of G1 (Dreamwave, IDW). But those never appeared again toywise, unless it was a G1 reissue.
The Hammer is what's become Iconic for UM. Which I don't particularly like, either. As much as I loved Animated, and think that was the best use of Ultra Magnus ever... I wish the hammer had stayed there. I saw it as a symbol of the leadership of the autobots in that continuity, and not a symbol of Ultra Magnus.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 1, 2013 6:33:09 GMT
Surely white shoulder cannons with red missiles should be his iconic weapon though I couldn't agree more. Shoulder cannons with red rockets IS Ultra Magnus. The double red rocket cannons on my City Commander are the perfect upgrade. |
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Post by Stomski on Feb 1, 2013 9:41:42 GMT
The only reason we lost the shoulder cannons is because Ultra Magnus became the de-facto repaint for Prime Cabs (Energon repaint aside) and retooling would not have been cost effective.
In fact the only non-repaint Magnus that wasn't a G1 representation (e.g. Titanium) up until Animated was RiD wasn't it? And he had big blue cannons that were hand held.
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Post by Toph on Feb 1, 2013 21:34:30 GMT
RiD was the first use of Ultra Magnus period outside of the G1 continuity, if not the first UM that wasn't the original G1 toy (Or a reissue of).
Everyone bitches about "The constant stream of white optimus repaints" (I'm not saying this is you, as you haven't), but those are genuinely fairly uncommon.
The first one, MP, Classics, Battle in a Box, and those are the only ones I can think of. I think there's one or two more, but they're not coming to me.
Meanwhile, completely new molds, or non-white repaints include Laserrod, RiD, Spychanger, Energon, Animated, Animated Roadbuster UM, Prime, Prime Cyberverse, and two repaints of RiD, and one of Spychanger. And there were also a couple non-white repaints of the G1 toy, as well.
(I'm not counting non-mainlines like shoe labels, or titaniums)
There are by far more black repaints of Optimus.
This rant comes courtesy of all the idiots on TFW bitching about how Prime is ruined now that there's going to be an Optimus remolded in to Ultra Magnus.
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Post by legios on Feb 1, 2013 23:24:46 GMT
The only reason we lost the shoulder cannons is because Ultra Magnus became the de-facto repaint for Prime Cabs (Energon repaint aside) and retooling would not have been cost effective. In fact the only non-repaint Magnus that wasn't a G1 representation (e.g. Titanium) up until Animated was RiD wasn't it? And he had big blue cannons that were hand held. Actually, I seem to remember that if you played with the position of the sockets you could actually mount the Blue Bolt behind RiD Magnus' shoulders and have the missile launchers as kind of indirect-fire support weapons. (I can't check as my God Magnus is sadly broken and one step from being a parts-donor at this stage). Not hugely sold on the current "A warhammer on a stick is the defining feature of Ultra Magnus" but then, I kind of accept this as being a sign that I am ageing and quite out of touch with modern Transformers. That said, I don't mind him bringing a smashing implement to the fight - I just think that future Magni need to take a leaf from Animated Magnus' book and bring some ranged weapons to the fight so that he can contribute to proceedings whilst trying to get to melee distance in one piece. Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 2, 2013 8:20:50 GMT
Der Happy Schtick!
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2013 14:05:58 GMT
Stop! Hammer time!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Feb 3, 2013 21:15:17 GMT
Now I am imagining a Viking Ultra Magnus. I guess he would have to fight Cryotek and then Cryotek's mum decades later... Karl |
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Post by Stomski on Feb 5, 2013 10:09:09 GMT
Actually, I seem to remember that if you played with the position of the sockets you could actually mount the Blue Bolt behind RiD Magnus' shoulders and have the missile launchers as kind of indirect-fire support weapons. Now you've said it I think you're right, but they're over the head cannons, not outside of the shoulder. Neither are they white with red missiles I've got an urge to build RiD Prime/Magnus now. Off into the loft I go tonight! Now... Which box did I leave them in? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 5, 2013 11:47:44 GMT
I know exactly where mine are: in their original Car Robots boxes!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 5, 2013 12:12:57 GMT
hmmmm.... Did any Transformer have a Hammer weapon before Magnus? I know the GaoGaiGar combiner does but is there an actual Transformer with one?
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 5, 2013 17:23:45 GMT
Rack n Ruin had a hammer.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 5, 2013 17:49:25 GMT
Technically Ruin but there was never a toy. A real TF toy with a hammer predating Animated Magnus please
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 5, 2013 18:17:36 GMT
Did the large Armada Red Alert / Prowl have a small hammer as part of his bits n pieces? Or is it Cybertron Red Alert I'm thinking of?
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Post by primenova on Feb 9, 2013 7:48:26 GMT
Is the reason he had an hammer is that it was the right shape to fit in the toy - that is if it does. Not had a good look at his toy to see if his hammer fits in different places when transformed
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