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Post by Toph on Nov 29, 2012 22:22:29 GMT
Went back a few pages to see if a thread already exists, and didn't see one. I appologize if it does and I missed it.
Finally got to see this the other day, and came out glad I didn't waist the money to see it in the theater.
I think this is the most over-hyped movie since Avatar.
To me, it seems like it only exists to intentionally contridict every piece of ALIEN fiction after Scott's first alien movie.
It did not answer any of the questions it claimed it would. Instead it was a vessel to present a sequel, which it shoved the "answers" off into.
Also... I should have realized this one would be extremely boring. The less xenos there are in an alien movie, the more boring it is for me. Remove them all, and I should have realized it would be intolorable.
Okay... granted, ALIENS, Alien3, Resurrection, AvP, and the shitton of comics and novels probably had nothing to do with his original "vision" when he made ALIEN. I can understand that. But this is 30+ years of fiction that has created a universe that fans love, around one simple movie. it seems poor writing to me to just throw all that out and do whatever you want anyway.
That's as aweful as Emmirich saying he'll throw out SG1, SGA, and SGU if he makes a Stargate II, because it's not his original intent (Never mind the fact there would never be an SGII on the table if SG1 didn't rescue the concept from extreme obscurity, and turned it into a major Star Trek level franchise.).
Just... I find that this movie fails pretty hard.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 29, 2012 22:31:32 GMT
Found the thread for you.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Nov 29, 2012 22:44:44 GMT
Thanks
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 30, 2012 21:02:19 GMT
I saw Prometheus for the first time the other night to. I'm not sure what to make of it. There were good aspects, and there were not as good aspects. Generally I found it entertaining, and the female lead, sorry I forget her name, was brilliant. But it didn't feel like a Scott film. It didn't feel like Alien. I did have a fan-gasm when the navigational chair jobby came up out of the floor towards the end of the film! How it ties into existing fiction? Well I'm not up to speed on the expanded fiction side of things. I lost interest after they killed off Hicks, Bishop and Newt in Alien 3. But I certainly would have expected Scott to have respected all the established decades of fiction, and it sounds like he hasn't, which is unfortunate.
On Alien 3. I thought the way they killed off the characters from Aliens was pants, and the general story didn't do it for me either. But as a film, the look, the style, and the ocean of magnificent actors, I do find it very watchable despite myself.
Alien 4, whatever it was called, Regurgitation or something, was utter rubbish IMO.
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Post by legios on Nov 30, 2012 22:20:25 GMT
Prometheus was one of those films that I went into with very carefully pegged expectations. Given Ridley Scott's somewhat variable output over recent years I kind of pegged myself at expecting a film that looked lovely but wouldn't necessarily be up to snuff in other aspects.
On the bright side I got a film that did indeed look visually lovely - some of the landscape work made me think that Ridley Scott Western would have that John Fordian look, and the design work was absolutely wonderful - had Fassbender along doing the kind of note-perfect acting that he always seems to turn in and Idris Elba putting in a great shift with what little he was given, and had Charlize Theron and the lovely Noomi Rapace along to make the indoor scenery quite as nice as the outdoor.
On the other hand we had a plot that only had a nodding acquaintance with making sense and an attitude that reeked of "No, Evil Science should stop meddling with things that Man Was Not Meant To Know" (now that I have perused one of the writers rap-sheets I can see that this outlook should not have entirely surprised me). Also, the decision by Scott that "it isn't really an alien prequel, we want to go in another direction" should have been made on the basis of either scrapping this film and making a new film that goes where he wanted to go, or making this film as an Alien prequel and then making another film that goes off in said completely different direction. Trying to drag this film in a new direction has left it as an unfortunate hybrid offspring which wasn't really well-adapted in an evolutionary sense.
When all is said and done, I went in with my expectations dialed down and found a film that pretty much met what I expected, so I had a fairly enjoyable cinema experience. I haven't bought the DVD and have no real plans to. Firstly I don't think it has any real rewatchability, and secondly I can't really see that I would get that much out of it on a small screen anyway.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 1, 2012 10:28:58 GMT
All I wanted was a plot that was intelligent and made sense and characters who did not act like morons. Alas, it was stupid from scene 1 and the scientists acted like they were characters in a Poundland DVD movie rather than actual scientists. The visuals didn't grab me at all because I had seen those design cues in a better film and my brain was too busy being hammered by the utter stupidity of the story.
-Ralph
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Post by chachi on Dec 1, 2012 23:27:56 GMT
Hi, im new here. Recently got back into Formers as i seem to be calling them and been following some of the sightings thread, so thanks for that guys...
Could tell Prometheus wasn't all that from the trailer, my partners a big Aliens fan though so went to see it. The cinema experience(of actually going out now we have kids) and film itself was an adventure(enjoyable) but the story wasn't up to much. Old saying of there isn't an original story left in Hollywood rings out. It's just a rehash for a new generation... but before i depress myself thinking about along list of crap remakes there have been exceptions. Liking the new Star Trek and also thought Tron was good. Watched Avengers Assemble last night and can gladly add that too.
Kayne
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Post by Toph on Dec 2, 2012 0:30:24 GMT
Welcome to the board!
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Post by legios on Dec 2, 2012 1:28:30 GMT
Indeed, welcome aboard!
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2012 10:13:16 GMT
Howdy.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 2, 2012 10:45:21 GMT
Yo!
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Post by chachi on Dec 3, 2012 0:50:49 GMT
Thanks for the welcome!
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Post by Stomski on May 8, 2013 12:17:31 GMT
Quote from the abandoned Alien3 script...
Reminiscent of what I took from Prometheus re. the Alien's origin.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 16, 2015 20:30:10 GMT
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Post by legios on Sept 17, 2015 16:30:57 GMT
Apropos of nothing, it occurs to me that it is a shame that Prometheus is being named so boringly. After all, having started with one Titan they could have been terribly baroque used the names of some of his siblings like Epimetheus or Astreas.
Not sure that Selene or Leto would play as well as titles mind you. :-)
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 23, 2017 11:11:05 GMT
Best to put it here but there's an excerpt from Alien: Covenant online.
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Post by Stomski on Feb 23, 2017 21:27:13 GMT
Will wait till the cinema!
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 23, 2017 21:51:34 GMT
What's this then? New alien film?
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 23, 2017 21:53:37 GMT
And whatever happened to Chachi?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 23, 2017 22:25:41 GMT
He loves Joanie.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 23, 2017 22:28:09 GMT
Is this some prequel pish that has to be watched before the film?
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 23, 2017 23:06:34 GMT
No, I suspect it's a scene from the film.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Feb 23, 2017 23:08:58 GMT
Wow that was boring!
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 24, 2017 8:01:00 GMT
Oh look, they have the same dancing girl desk toy that the crew of the Nostromo had!
CONNECTIONS.
Sigh.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 24, 2017 10:35:18 GMT
Bodes well eh?
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 24, 2017 21:00:17 GMT
I switched it off after about 3 mins as it was so boring. Oh dear.
No Oscar for Fassbender!
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Apr 27, 2017 7:30:27 GMT
Billboards up for Alien Covenant.
Telling that it reads 'From the director of The Martian and Alien' with no mention of Prometheus.
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Post by Dezzeh on Apr 28, 2017 11:27:18 GMT
Covenant already looks much better, yes.
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Post by Toph on Apr 30, 2017 17:31:40 GMT
Why can't james cameron come back to the franchise?
I would much rather have one new Cameron Aliens movie, than four new Avatar movies.
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Post by Stomski on Apr 30, 2017 19:25:14 GMT
Ever since 'Unobtanium' I worry about Cameron's ability to think up original ideas.
Aren't we getting an alternative follow up to Aliens next from another director?
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