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Post by Benn on Mar 28, 2019 7:12:37 GMT
Don't worry, they get to do it all over again on Monday!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 28, 2019 8:10:21 GMT
Same here.
Revoke Article 50, then a new General Election and then a new, legally, well run and informed EU Referendum (if you really must).
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 28, 2019 10:08:01 GMT
I think an informed referendum is the way to go. I don't like the result of the 2016 one at all but I do respect the result. However, it was an advisory vote so now it should be put again with the proper details so people can make an informed judgement.
I'm not a fan of referendums for complex issues but if we must have one then do it properly.
-Ralph
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Wait, what?
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Post by Dezzeh on Mar 28, 2019 11:12:49 GMT
So, looks like we're all pretty boned still?
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Mar 28, 2019 12:26:00 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 28, 2019 12:26:00 GMT
Yup!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 28, 2019 18:18:57 GMT
I see more buffonery has been concocted by the PM. Tomorrow will be 'interesting'.
-Ralph
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Mar 28, 2019 20:38:56 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 28, 2019 20:38:56 GMT
Bercow on fire tonight "We don't need any back chat, man."
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 1, 2019 12:17:10 GMT
One important question arises: "Where is Lord Buckethead?" Surely he has not deserted us all in our hour of need?
-Ralph
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Post by browny87 on Apr 1, 2019 19:59:00 GMT
its still an utter shambles
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Apr 1, 2019 20:01:42 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 1, 2019 20:01:42 GMT
At least we had some levity with the naked protesters!
-Ralph
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Apr 5, 2019 17:00:10 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2019 17:00:10 GMT
*checks news*
Looks like we're all ******.
-Ralph
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Apr 5, 2019 22:23:31 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Apr 5, 2019 22:23:31 GMT
The one redeeming feature of the politics of the last week is we are still EU citizens.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2019 22:25:08 GMT
I will always be an EU citizen. I was born one and unless my DNA is scrambled I remain one.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 6, 2019 18:11:36 GMT
Selfishly I am glad at least brexit doesn't look like it's happening on April 12th. Those gammon-faced Tory twats would have ruined my birthday from here on in.
TWATS.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Apr 6, 2019 18:13:26 GMT
Selfishly I am glad at least brexit doesn't look like it's happening on April 12th. Those gammon-faced Tory twats would have ruined my birthday from here on in. TWATS. Andy When's your birthday Andy? |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 6, 2019 18:14:43 GMT
Well if Brexit was going to happen on April 12th and it was going to ruin my birthday from here on in...
I shouldn't have to draw you a map...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 26, 2019 11:33:57 GMT
Just postal voted in next week's council elections. Given that the runners and riders were Labour, Conservative or a Kipper, the choice was simple.
The European elections in a few weeks time could be a more complicated decision. Can someone remind me of the voting method as I seem to recall it isn't first past the post.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 26, 2019 13:36:39 GMT
The European elections in a few weeks time could be a more complicated decision. Can someone remind me of the voting method as I seem to recall it isn't first past the post. Regional PR, isn't it? Anyway, I think in the EU elections it's best to forget about tactical voting and just treat it as a referendum on Brexit policies. Martin |
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Post by Bogatan on Apr 26, 2019 13:48:52 GMT
Apparently its PR but in England at least its weighed in favour of larger parties somehow.
Will have to wait and see where Labour and everyone else land.
Currently torn between voting to minimise Ukip types winning or treating it as a referendum and voting for the most remain based candidates.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 27, 2019 6:59:02 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 27, 2019 7:03:50 GMT
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Post by Llama God on Apr 27, 2019 7:43:09 GMT
Greens are pro-European, and currently have a multi-national presence in the European Parliament. LThey’re also in favour of a second referendum - Caroline Lucas has been calling for a people’s vote for some time now (although you’d be forgiven for not having noticed it from the media’s coverage).
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 27, 2019 9:49:18 GMT
Thank you for the clarification, I thought that was probably the case.
Lib Dems not done great in the SW last few Euro elections, but a consistent Green presence. I think that helps clarify which way to go!
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May 5, 2019 13:14:30 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 5, 2019 13:14:30 GMT
I am bemused at how losing over 1000 seats is being declared as "TOTAL VICTORY!".
Madness.
Looking forward to the European Elections.
-Ralph
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Post by Llama God on May 5, 2019 20:27:32 GMT
I'm fairly certain that no matter the result, it'll be a clear sign that voters want the losing parties to do more of whatever it is they're doing that caused them to lose.
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May 13, 2019 12:49:07 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 13, 2019 12:49:07 GMT
Very angry to receive Farage election bumf in the post. When I was a kid, far-right racist bullshit was seen as beyond the pale. Now it casually comes through the letterbox.
Very much looking forward to voting in the European Elections. I may never have been so interested in voting in anything before. Don't let the racists win!
-Ralph
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May 13, 2019 17:46:46 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 13, 2019 17:46:46 GMT
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Post by legios on May 13, 2019 19:12:02 GMT
I am deeply suspicious of any moves to "need to have additional ID to vote". Mostly because the country where I've mostly observed it in action has been the USA, where it is unashamedly a device to reduce the numbers of BAME, and poor urban whites voting (statistically they tend to be more likely to be Democrat voters whereas the rural poor are more likely to swing republican it seems). And given the number of people lower on the socio-economic scale I dealt with who had difficulties getting "acceptable" (to the PsTB) identification I have no reason to suppose its effects would be any different here.
Had a leaflet from Labour through the door today. I did read it, out of curiosity. It seemed to be all about voting for them because they want to change British economic and social policy - so basically they are campaigning for a UK general election that is not happening. There was something about voting for them because they wanted there to be a general election because that would somehow alter the situation regarding our inability to agree to exit the EU gracefully. It was at this point I shrugged and laid it aside - we've already had a General Election prompted by that, it shows no signs of having helped any. It is not exactly calculated to win them my vote for the EU Parliamentary elections, given that they don't even seem to be aware that that is what the election is for...
Karl
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May 13, 2019 20:42:09 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on May 13, 2019 20:42:09 GMT
Farage leaflet through the door here too. Addressed to me not Mrs M. Reports online seem to be suggesting these going mainly to males in households. Even when they're too young to vote.
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May 26, 2019 22:26:56 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on May 26, 2019 22:26:56 GMT
A mess it may be, but watching the results roll in is still compelling viewing.
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