Politics

[The Doctor]

To skip to international politics for a bit, I have been very impressed with New Zealand's Prime Minister. I was barely aware of her a week ago but great to see strong political leadership after a tragedy. Very impressive.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

To drag us back to the shitshow of Brexit for a second.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

"Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.
The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. We need to put a stop to this claim by proving the strength of public support now, for remaining in the EU. A People's Vote may not happen - so vote now."

[Andy Turnbull]

Also you can email your MP to get him to consider voting to revoke Article 50.

This website makes it a doddle.

www.justmakeitstop.co.uk/

[browny87]

the petition is quite impressive what has happened with it over 24 hours

[Fortmax2020]

This House notes it has just cracked 1 000 000 entries.

Andrea Leadsom 'helpfully' notes that achieving this in 24 hours is nothing on the scale of the months/years of campaigning leading up to the officially referendum three years ago. Sigh.

[Benn]

Andrea Leadsom needs to find a very short pier.

[Philip Ayres]

Twitter: https://twitter.com/ElectoralCommUK/status/1108773235758383104

[Philip Ayres]

Can anyone find me a link to the related story that referendum can't be overturned because it was advisory?

And, once again, to the EU finance laws due to come in? M found me them on Twitter and can I find the tweets?

[Fortmax2020]

You mean the incoming Tax laws the Brixeters are desperate to avoid?

[Philip Ayres]

Those ones.

I've done advanced search on twitter between you and me and can't see them which makes me wonder if something odd has gone on....

[The Doctor]

Just imagine if the iron will May has on 'her deal' was applied to education, health, the economy, etc.

-Ralph

[Fortmax2020]

Phil:

[Fortmax2020]

Apparently May told the EU tonight she is sticking with Plan A when they asked her what her Plan B was. *bangs head on table*

[Fortmax2020]

Plan A being another vote on her deal.

[The Doctor]

But the Speaker said no! Just the other day. It was on the news!

-Ralph

[Fortmax2020]

Yep and the Tories are still banging on as if they think it will happen. Which it can't. The EU know this and have basically given us an extra two weeks to do something else.

[Philip Ayres]

Mar 21, 2019 15:03:30 GMT Fortmax2020 said:

This House notes it has just cracked 1 000 000 entries.

Andrea Leadsom 'helpfully' notes that achieving this in 24 hours is nothing on the scale of the months/years of campaigning leading up to the officially referendum three years ago. Sigh.

THREE MILLION now

[The Doctor]

I doubt May Bot would notice even if it hit 17 million.

-Ralph

[The Doctor]

Mar 21, 2019 10:13:41 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

To drag us back to the shitshow of Brexit for a second.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

"Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.
The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. We need to put a stop to this claim by proving the strength of public support now, for remaining in the EU. A People's Vote may not happen - so vote now."

The petition has hit 5m:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/24/brexit-petition-to-revoke-article-50-reaches-5m-signatures

I expect it will be utterly ignored by whoever is PM at the end of the week.

-Ralph

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Mar 24, 2019 17:29:52 GMT The Doctor said:

I expect it will be utterly ignored by whoever is PM at the end of the week.

But it (and yesterday's protest) may enable the MPs who see a second ref as a way forward to vote for it in the 'indicative votes' exercise, when they would otherwise have had less defence to offer to those who claim a second ref would be disrespectful to the will of the people.

Martin

[The Doctor]

*checks news*

Golly.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

May's power is eroding further with every day.

All this could still end up with No Deal though.

Andy

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Martin

[Andy Turnbull]

And the response to the petition is in:

"It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

Department for Exiting the European Union."

[Fortmax2020]

We must protect democracy by protecting a fraudulent referendum. Right.

[Benn]

Wait. If they "wrote to every household saying the result of the referendum would be implemented", it can hardly be called 'advisory' now, can it?

[The Doctor]

I didn't get anything in the post!

-Ralph

[drmick]

When I was a kid I wanted to be the usual jobs depending on age- digger driver, pilot, lawyer, architect etc.

But I wish somebody advised me that I could be a Speaker in the house of Commons. That job looks like it could be great fun, and easy.

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Fun but not at all easy.

Martin

[The Doctor]

I watched the indicative vote results come in. Wow, what a shit show.

-Ralph