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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 11, 2016 17:35:02 GMT
Right. In that case let's get her in and get the hell on with it then. Let's not, as the Strontium Dog timeline follows on from Dredd's world. Bad times ahead... Andy |
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Post by browny87 on Jul 11, 2016 19:28:40 GMT
think she starts Wednesday don't she?
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 11, 2016 19:59:31 GMT
The ongoing leadership fights in the two main parties make me shake my head, admittedly for different reasons. Great to see that Michael Gove was knocked out, but finding ourselves in a position where Theresa May is the better candidate for the Tories...madness! Labour I fear will self-destruct entirely. Angela Eagle is not a credible candidate for leadership and Corbyn will win. The problem we have his the Parliamentary Labour Party do not want Corbyn, but the membership do. The problem is Corbyn is not electable as far as I can see, and the membership need to see that before it's too late. However, there is noone I can see of sufficient stature that can bring the membership and the PLP back together. Andy Just came across this posted on facebook. Pretty much sums up labour right now. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 11, 2016 22:00:01 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 11, 2016 22:19:55 GMT
I think Angela Eagle is an absolute joke, god help Labour if she gets the nod.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 12, 2016 20:35:48 GMT
Ha ha, just when I thought Labour could not implode further, they're stopping any member from voting in their leadership contest who joined in the last 6 months unless they cough up £25. That's 129,726 of their members they've just effectively told to fuck off. That is...not a clever decision.
Oh dear.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jul 12, 2016 21:24:51 GMT
*puts head in hands* This is like time-lapse footage of shattering glass. I'm starting to wonder whether we aren't going to end up with more than two successors to the Labour Party at this point. (I'm still about 51% convinced that we are going to see the PLP going one way and Corbyn and the hard-left elements going the other within a matter of months - where the membership go in that case I cannot fathom yet).
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 13, 2016 16:43:37 GMT
Ha ha, just when I thought Labour could not implode further, they're stopping any member from voting in their leadership contest who joined in the last 6 months unless they cough up £25. That's 129,726 of their members they've just effectively told to fuck off. That is...not a clever decision. Oh dear. -Ralph I only just read the details. Holy shit, first theres no way what happened can be legal, its certainly not democratic. Second wether they get away with it or not, the right wing of the Labour party just commited career suicide. If the majority of the membership are going to side with Corbyn as seems likely then all they have done is reduce the winning margin so they dont look quite as ridiculous. But in the process they'll have pissed off a huge chunk of the members, whoever they voted for. The idea of 172 deselections doesnt seem remotely as fanciful as it did yesterday. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 13, 2016 18:30:04 GMT
Indeed.
In other news, I see Osborne has gone. Spider-Man will be pleased.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 13, 2016 18:34:50 GMT
Hurrah, pass the bubbly!
Who's the replacement?
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 13, 2016 18:39:03 GMT
Phillip Hammond.
Arse cheeks currently clenched to see what Boris gets.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 13, 2016 19:11:49 GMT
Good lord. Your arse is busy at the moment, isn't it?!
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 13, 2016 19:17:02 GMT
Foreign Secretary!!
Well thats.... erm....
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 13, 2016 19:23:04 GMT
I am strongly reminded of 'Yes Minister' and 'Yes Prime Minister' by recent events.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 13, 2016 19:54:36 GMT
I can only think/hope it's a case of keeping your enemies close...
Surely the UK has had enough humiliation on the international scene lately??
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 13, 2016 19:56:44 GMT
You couldn't make this up. No one would believe it.
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Post by browny87 on Jul 13, 2016 20:32:24 GMT
Ha ha, just when I thought Labour could not implode further, they're stopping any member from voting in their leadership contest who joined in the last 6 months unless they cough up £25. That's 129,726 of their members they've just effectively told to fuck off. That is...not a clever decision. Oh dear. -Ralph I only just read the details. Holy shit, first theres no way what happened can be legal, its certainly not democratic. Second wether they get away with it or not, the right wing of the Labour party just commited career suicide. If the majority of the membership are going to side with Corbyn as seems likely then all they have done is reduce the winning margin so they dont look quite as ridiculous. But in the process they'll have pissed off a huge chunk of the members, whoever they voted for. The idea of 172 deselections doesnt seem remotely as fanciful as it did yesterday. What needs further stressing about this is that the decision made to stop them voting is illegal, they brought and voted on the motion after Corbyn and his supporters left the meeting so only half the staff voted on it. IT infuriates me does the Labour party at the moment, the public and the Labour members want Corbyn on the whole its only the MP's who don't like him. He probably speaks too honestly and far too much sense for most of the bigoted toffs. I always thought politics was biased and this shows it even further, first time in 10 years of voting I've felt like saying fuck it and abandoning LAbour(and ive campaigned for them in the area 4 times) - its just disgusting and immoral. In Tory news - delighted Osbourne is gone, confused Boris is back but at least he can try and sort his own Brexit mess out now! |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 13, 2016 22:15:39 GMT
The ongoing Labour fiasco is like a very shitty knock-off of House of Cards. (The proper one)
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2016 12:08:20 GMT
And Hunt, who presided over the only Doctor strikes in NHS history, stays in post.
Same shit, different day. What a bold new leader we have.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2016 14:23:58 GMT
Yes, I saw reports he'd gone before I had my sleep, very sad to find out that's not the case. A definite mistake there in the eyes of the public. Boris as Foreign Secretary is a bit "WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?  " But apart from that several of the really despised figures have fallen: Gove, gone. Osbourne, gone, Whittingdale (Culture & Media) gone. How he hung on so long given what the papers had on him and had been revealed NOT to have published is a mystery given his area of responsibility. |
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Post by legios on Jul 14, 2016 15:49:17 GMT
One thing that does surprise me is the reaction I've been seeing from people who think that somehow Austerity was an Osborne policy and it might change. Austerity isn't a reaction to economic conditions, it is an ideological view that government should not provide services and that they should be provided for profit by private enterprise. That's not Osborne's ideology, it is the parties ideology. Getting rid of Osborne isn't going to change anything in terms of austerity.
Karl
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Post by legios on Jul 14, 2016 15:51:28 GMT
A definite mistake there in the eyes of the public. Boris as Foreign Secretary is a bit "WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? " Possibly either - this repays the debt I owe you, and means I can at least keep my eye on you when you come after my chair in a few years time - or - There you go, this repays the debt *whispers* and with a bit of luck you will crash and burn before I do and thus no longer be a threat to me? Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2016 18:04:13 GMT
One thing that does surprise me is the reaction I've been seeing from people who think that somehow Austerity was an Osborne policy and it might change. Austerity isn't a reaction to economic conditions, it is an ideological view that government should not provide services and that they should be provided for profit by private enterprise. That's not Osborne's ideology, it is the parties ideology. Getting rid of Osborne isn't going to change anything in terms of austerity. Karl Gives Spider-Man more time to hunt him down though. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 14, 2016 18:04:57 GMT
A definite mistake there in the eyes of the public. Boris as Foreign Secretary is a bit "WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? " Possibly either - this repays the debt I owe you, and means I can at least keep my eye on you when you come after my chair in a few years time - or - There you go, this repays the debt *whispers* and with a bit of luck you will crash and burn before I do and thus no longer be a threat to me? Karl May is Servalan from Blake's 7 and I claim my five pounds. -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 14, 2016 19:03:48 GMT
Perhaps it's a case of "you wanted us out, you sort it out". May was a remain voter wasn't she, so it could be she wants a firm leave name in that seat so she can distance herself, but do something to win over the half of the country who voted out.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 14, 2016 19:08:07 GMT
It does seem shes stacked all the brexiters in the deal with brexit jobs which makes some sense. Even if its only in the hope that when it all goes horribly wrong she can some what legitimately pass the buck.
I wonder if the same logic applies to Hunt. Let him finish making the mess hes started then replace with someone who can clean it up.
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Post by browny87 on Jul 14, 2016 20:03:58 GMT
loved the daily mirror's headline of "lucky Hunt"
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 19, 2016 16:38:19 GMT
Eagle out of the Labour leadership pissing match. I can't keep up with these twists and turns!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 19, 2016 19:46:19 GMT
What?? Didn't she start it???
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 19, 2016 19:52:59 GMT
Post Brexit referendum politics really is making House of Cards (either version) look tame.
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