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Post by The Doctor on Apr 20, 2016 15:44:23 GMT
It pisses me the fuck off.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 21, 2016 11:20:08 GMT
Still, I like some of the covers, and it seems to be a marketing gimmick that is here to stay.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 21, 2016 20:18:06 GMT
I wish it was one that would go away and die.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 21, 2016 21:26:10 GMT
Not for a while yet...
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 22, 2016 18:24:45 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 7, 2016 7:36:58 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 18, 2016 13:39:24 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 18, 2016 18:23:40 GMT
My FCBD box arrived and I have read Rom Issue zero.
An entertaining start, but still in the shadow of Mantlo - redesign makes sense and there's a nice wee sketchbook up the back. Took to this more than the Micronauts issue I have to say.
Andy
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Post by primenova on May 18, 2016 20:06:20 GMT
I first saw in comics DW's around uncanny x-men sometime in #200 - #250 I think it was
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Post by blueshift on May 18, 2016 20:11:00 GMT
If Hasbro get the copyright does that mean that a chunk of X-Men is no longer publishable??
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 18, 2016 20:15:58 GMT
I think Hasbro won't win this. Marvel consistantly have used Dire Wraiths since Rom and indeed published a trade with them in last year.
Plus Disney's Lawyers. Hasbro want to keep the Disney contract. And the Marvel one. And the Star Wars one.
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Post by The Doctor on May 28, 2016 22:04:56 GMT
I read Andu's FCBD Rom comic. Nowt anazing but fine for a freebie and enough to make me pick up #1 of the series when it comes out.
By contrast the new Micronauts comic was...not good. No urge to keep going with that.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 29, 2016 18:15:50 GMT
Rom was indeed the better of the two.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 29, 2016 15:39:12 GMT
I was always going to pick up #1 of a new ROM series as I never thought it would happen. I almost choked when I got to the till though. £4.15! Jings. I had not realised single US issues were so expensive now. Titan include 3 US Doctor Who issues for £4 in their UK newsstand title. Panini pack in 3 and a bit US issues for £3.50 in their newsstand titles. Heck, 2000AD has several strips in each issue for £2.55. Commando still runs new stories for £2. By contrast £4.15 feels like very poor value for money just for one issue.
Not had a chance to read it yet but if it is good I shall wait for a trade for more!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 29, 2016 16:06:24 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 29, 2016 16:06:25 GMT
Well I have read it now and I quite enjoyed it. Your mileage will vary as to how you find the cliffhanger.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 23, 2016 20:55:08 GMT
#2, #3 and ROM: Revolution #1 read. I am enjoying this series. **** up the Dire Wraith scum, Rom!!! Get them!!!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Sept 24, 2016 8:06:06 GMT
Due to licensing issues none of the series, or issues from other comics that guest star Rom, can be reprinted. This is one reason I'm really really annoyed Marvel never got around to repurchasing the rights to ROM, as there's lots of issues in their back catalogue that's inaccessible now Phil or knowledgeable people, is it possible for Marvel to do a reprint deal with IDW? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 24, 2016 9:35:59 GMT
I think the conditions are more favourable now than ever to Rom reprints.
The licence now rests with IDW who have reprinted Marvel licensed properties in the past: GI Joe, TF.
However they also have Micronauts and haven't reprinted Marvel's version of them either. Both are Mantlo written titles and both heavily involve other marvel characters, waaaaay beyond Spider-Man's US TF#3 appearance.
Another downside is IDW may be wanting to promote THEIR Rom as THE Rom. Not sure this is a good move, money left on the table. Their use of TF & GI Joe has generated favourable goodwill by getting the classic stuff back in print.
Hasbro in turn is also the master toy licence holder for both Marvel & Disney so some pressure to allow the reprints might be brought that way.
We shall see. But, as I said, these chances now are better than they have ever been.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 24, 2016 10:02:04 GMT
Be rather hard to read it if none of the material can be reprinted?
I didn't realise the comic ran for 80 issues. He's a more significant figure than I thought!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 24, 2016 10:13:46 GMT
Be rather hard to read it if none of the material can be reprinted? Back issues are cheap as chips. Go on eBay and search for Rom Spaceknight. They turn up in quantity regularly. I didn't realise the comic ran for 80 issues. He's a more significant figure than I thought! He appears in issues of Hulk, Power Man & Iron Fist and Marvel Two In One that can't be reprinted. The Hulk issue, 296, is absolutely crucial to the storyline it's in. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 24, 2016 20:16:56 GMT
Due to licensing issues none of the series, or issues from other comics that guest star Rom, can be reprinted. This is one reason I'm really really annoyed Marvel never got around to repurchasing the rights to ROM, as there's lots of issues in their back catalogue that's inaccessible now Phil or knowledgeable people, is it possible for Marvel to do a reprint deal with IDW? Not a case of getting round to it. There was no desire to do so from a higher level, hence why they passed up on Transformers/Joe and the like again. It's not their current model. I am sure that there will be discussions that will allow Marvel to reprint Rom focused issues when IDW get round to classic Rom/Micronauts back issues. Andy |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 24, 2016 22:02:28 GMT
It makes sense for IDW to initially concentrate on getting their new ROM series out. While we love it and has a certain cult following, ROM today is not hugely known in the wider comic readership. He last appeared in Marvel comics over 30 years ago with no reprints since. Big seller back in the day, cult following now.
Chucking out reprints at the same time as a new series would just confuse the market and readers and cannabalise sales for both. Best to get the new series established, get the character known in comics again and leave reprints off the table for a year or so. Then you can sell reprints to a wider audience: those who already like the old material and those who like the new stuff who might now be interested in the archive stuff.
Too much ROM material out there too soon all at once would confuse the market and potentially result in a very short run. Remember: the chap who runs IDW has a childhood love of the character and pursued the rights for it for many years. It's reasonable to assume he wants the property to be commercially viable again in the long term (my supposition).
-ROMALPH
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2016 20:09:43 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 2, 2016 12:05:12 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Oct 2, 2016 12:19:54 GMT
Not unexpected! I thought the Dire Wraiths only appeared in the comic so were Marvel owned? And they definitely appear in a few main run X-Men stories, Marvel won't give this up without a fight. Dumb move for Hasbro?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 2, 2016 15:21:34 GMT
Even if they're first appearance is in the comic I think the argument runs they belong to Hasbro because it's a licensed comic. See Circuit Breaker's appearance in Secret Wars and Death's Head in an advert. That's even before factoring in if Dire Wraiths appears as a term on Rom packaging or adverts.
Dire Wraiths also appear in, as you've said, the Lifedeath X-Men story but also a Kang Avengers story in the 260s. Probably some others too. IF Hasbro won this these would probably go into the same unreprintable file as any Marvel issue Rom guest stars in.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 27, 2016 7:28:27 GMT
Just polished off another five issues of Rom (or ROM if you prefer). Somewhat uncomfortable with its arguably extreme right-wing message... There are immigrants hiding in our society trying to pass themselves off as natives, and they are all EVIL and must be banished, except for the one who falls in love with one of our women, marries her and their child is an evil abomination called Hybrid who must be destroyed!
If I didn't know that the same author wrote a story in which a heroic raccoon paired up with an otter and was the voice of sanity in a world of loony humans...
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 27, 2016 9:41:03 GMT
Er, I think you're seeing something that isn't there.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 27, 2016 14:53:59 GMT
Er, I think you're seeing something that isn't there. -Ralph Oh, it's there all right. I'm not saying it in any way reflects the writer's own views or intentions - he's probably just trying to tell an exciting, innocent story about evil aliens, and the Dire Wraiths are certainly evil. But the end result is still something that would go down well with the extreme right. Donald Trump described Mexicans as drug dealers and rapists - I'm sure there are plenty of his supporters who, if they read Rom, would claim that immigrants really do what the Dire Wraiths do in the comic. It doesn't help that Rom and his heroic race are all white Caucasian humans, and the Dire Wraiths look alien. Maybe I'm just reading it in the wrong decade. Martin |
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