Worked my way through the Byrne MTU. Oh yeah, good stuff. Some of the earlier issues (50s) are Mantlotainment to, so that should sell a few copies of E MTU v3 to some of us.
Sadly the best issue - 79 Claremont/Byrne/Austin doing Spiderman meets Red Sonja (a possesed Mary Jane) and featuring Kulan Gath in a prelude to the X-Men story in UXM 190/191 is missing from that volume due to rights issues :-(
One crossover involves the Avengers, and since the Avengers had crossovers in every annual from 14 to 21 it's statistically unlikely only one should be collected ! It's in print, not in an Avengers volume and was completely printed by Marvel UK. (And before Andy says it's the Thanos one he needs the first part of it isn't that - the Avengers portion of that (7) hasn't been reprinted yet)
Two involve the FF
Two Involve the X-Men and the New Mutants. There would be a third but what *should* have been New Mutants Annual 2 bloated to such huge proportions it became New Mutants special Edition 1
Two are out of print, though one part of one is availible in black & white and another part is due to be reprinted in colour shortly.
Two of the crossovers are set distinctly in storyline for the regular flow of the books in question, indeed one is basoloutley crucial reading
Answers Sun night/Monday morning together with more info about Marvel Annual croosovers than you can shake a stick at !
The answers to the quiz - in addition to the one Andy got - are the 1985 crossover between Avengers Annual 14 & Fantastic Four Annual 18 where the Skrulls loose their powerd and the 1986 crossover between New Mutants Annual 2 & X-Men Annual 10 which introduce both Psylocke & Longshot into the X-Men.
I suppose 1985's crossover between New Mutants Special Edition 1 & X-Men Annual 9 *technically* counts as the NM special edition should have been an annual till it bloated so much.
Here then is the full list:
FF/Thing WWII 1976 Fantastic Four Annual 11 Marvel Two In One Annual 1 Marvel Two In One 20
Thanos 1978 Avengers Annual 7 Marvel Two In One Annual 2
Spider-Man vs Doctor Octopus 1979 Amazing Spider-Man annual 13 Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man annual 1
Asgardian Wars 1985 New Mutants Special Edition 1 X-Men Annual 9
Skrulls 1985 Avengers Annual 14 Fantastic Four Annual 18
Quicksilver & The Zodiac 1986 Avengers Annual 15 West Coast Avengers Annual 1
Lifeform Better than I remembered it. DD annual was tops, as the writers managed to weave the backups into the main tale and the main strip was drawn by Kenedy. But no sort of cohesive feel to the story with each of the characters having a very different style. Only needed to buy the Hulk annual, had the other 3 already.
Kings of Pain a more cohesive story but the meaning of the title was a bit irrelevant and the Kings in question were just too far removed from the main action. The New Mutants Annual was published after he series finished, the X-Men annual featured Moira scratch team due to the real X-Men having a decent adventure in space. The New Warriors Annual was probably the best of the three. Had to buy both the New Warriors and X-Men annuals.
Shattershot Just a bit of a mess really with the final chapter totally divorced from the rest of the story and set in an alternate future. Needed more Longshot and better art teams - though the Joe Q stuff on the X-Factor annual was decent. Had the X-Factor annual, but found a set real cheap.
Terminus Factor What a mess. Someone's come up with a mutating invading alien story and shoehorned Terminus into it. Now Terminus' history is a tinsy bit of a mess but this is a whole new ball game. Avoid. I had the Cap, Thor & WCA annuals, just needed Iron Man & Avengers.
Hero Killers Quite an enjoyable little romp with passable art in the vaguely cartoony style of the time. Lots of mucking about in the middle two chapters that you could have cut - the Dreadnoughts were superfluous especially the souped up versions and told the story in two. A slightly misleading tag line on part - "A hero dies" Well the hero is dead when they get there and is Auric so I could bet that only me and three others would have heard of him. This then doesn't get mentioned to his sister (who was also being held) who then disapears completely for part four !
I clean forgot to bid on an MSH I wanted at the weekend.
While I'm in London I've been looking at some of my Cable issues (contemplating Cable classic V2 and swaying to the No side) What has caught my attention is the later issues drawn by Ladronn in a mock Kirby style - really working for me, very different to what everyone else was doing at the time.
Half way through my Namor lot now, I've reached the end of the Byrne drawn issues. The art varies, JB's experimenting with style a bit as this goes on and some of the later stuff is almost 90s cartoony lacking in detail. But the Byrne touches are still there and it's nowehere near as bad as the Janson inked JB stuff in those Wolverine issues.
The latest set of back issue wonders arrived yesterday from Graham's Crackers. Amongst it were the remaining 4 Power Man Iron Fist issues to complete my run.
I can see why it got canned, Jim Owsley had no idea. Dumped almost all of PM/IF's large supporting cast and replaced them with others. I read the final issue again and could reognise very few of the supporting cast in that. The feel was just wrong. The only issues that work are the ones where he sticks Luke and Danny in the Artic !
That's back from the first page of the thread. I'm wondering now if Priest's stuff may have been a little better than what I was giving him credit for. One of the ideas JB uses when he brings IF back must have been in Owsley/Priest's head all along - Tyrone King, one of the newer cast members he introduced who I didn't like and in the last issue is hinted as being *slightly* more than he appears, has a name that means something. Tyrone means power, prince, king, master..... and king in arabic is Khan. So JO/CP seems to have been planning the Master Khan reveal all along.
Avengers issues are arriving, looking forward to these, especially getting past the rubbish that made me chuck it 1st time out.