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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 1, 2015 18:20:10 GMT
All of 84 is Diaclone and Microman/Microchange.
85 is Diaclone, Microman/Microchange and a few other things: deluxe Autobot, Deluxe Insecticons, Jetfire, Shockwave and Omega Supreme are reused designs.
Blitzwing was a Diaclone toy, Astrotrain an unused Diaclone design.
There are some thought to be Hasbro originals in 85: The Minibots. Ther's a bit of a question mark against them cos they are the only thing not from elsewhere so various theories think they might have originated somewhere else but it's never been proved.
In 86 Magnus is the only 100% Diaclone toy there. Metroplex and the Special Teams are meant to be unused Diaclone designs. The Minibot recolours are Microchange moulds obviously.
I've seen people speculate about where Trypticon, Sky Lynx and maybe Predaking are from as there's certain differences there.
Everything after that is Hasbro, save for the Japanese only Targetmasters, the Trainbots and Browning.
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 1, 2015 19:54:11 GMT
As Kojin Ono designed most of the diaclone line and continued as one of the primary designers with Transformers, theres no wonder the line is blurred. If some Scramble City were unused diaclone designs, how many later toys were based on early sketches or just ideas from he was working on Diaclone?
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 1, 2015 22:02:50 GMT
Interesting. So that makes it sound like Wheelie was a Hasbro design created to suit the movie - the only new minibot mould of that year. I wonder if they thought he would be a bigger character than he became, something like a Bumblebee replacement.
It's interesting that the triple changers bridge the gap. They certainly don't have a uniform style when you compare the 85 ones to the 86 ones. With the movie figures everything got bigger and simpler.
That set of movie figures is quite a small range given it came at the height of the line's popularity. Hasbro must have used it as a trial run before going full tilt with all the Headmasters.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 15, 2015 22:06:04 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 15, 2015 22:16:43 GMT
Nice find. Someone needs to write a book about this and collate the various info sources.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 15, 2015 23:33:56 GMT
Word.
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Post by legios on Nov 16, 2015 11:32:49 GMT
Oh, now that is a good website. Nice to have so much visual reference in one place. Karl |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 22:57:39 GMT
Hi,
New on here.
I've recently found a grandstand converters omegatron in the attic from when I was younger.
Didn't know much about it at all and have found out that it's a pre transformers release toy.
All the parts are there, and it's boxed.
Would anyone please be able to shed some light on it for me and also be able to tell me what it might be worth ?
Many regards.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 20, 2016 23:09:23 GMT
PHIIIILLLLL!!!!!!!
(Welcome to the board!)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 20, 2016 23:23:13 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 20, 2016 23:48:11 GMT
Probably the next most important question after 'is it complete?' is does it work?
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Post by Rich on Feb 21, 2016 8:34:05 GMT
I doubt the guy who posted will be able to find the replies if the thread is merged with this one. He'll probably not check all new threads and will just think his thread been deleted.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 8:44:30 GMT
He got the PM saying they'd be moved and I linked to here so....
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Post by blueshift on Feb 21, 2016 8:57:00 GMT
I doubt the guy who posted will be able to find the replies if the thread is merged with this one. He'll probably not check all new threads and will just think his thread been deleted. Phil has gone power mad!!! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 21, 2016 9:09:51 GMT
Big Phil is our Shepherd.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 9:13:54 GMT
"a place for everything and everything in it's place"
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 9:14:32 GMT
Probably ought to take a closer look at Convertors some time as it's a real mish mash toyline. There's Microchange, Diaclone, Sentai and other toylines in there.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 21, 2016 9:37:22 GMT
I remember Converters. I had a small Whirl, and a kind of alieny looking space-vehicle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 10:07:40 GMT
I doubt the guy who posted will be able to find the replies if the thread is merged with this one. He'll probably not check all new threads and will just think his thread been deleted. It is complete, but don't think it works, I tried some battery's in it and nothing happened, if it's motorised I'm sure it will be able to be fixed. I've looked online and one sold in the US for over $400 recently I don't know much about it to be honest, I had a lot of transformers toys as a child, but stupidly broke or lost them, I know that I have Optimus primes trailer but it's got a few things missing from it, also a triple tramsformer that goes from a tank to a jet fighter to robot, but the tank turret it missing, it's in purple and beige if anyone knows what it is. Thanks for your replies |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 10:40:04 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 10:45:14 GMT
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Feb 21, 2016 10:54:00 GMT
It doesn't seem to be worth much. Sold listings on eBay range from £30-£50 with one being a complete exception that sold for £125. If you hit the right time you might push just over £50 but I wouldn't go expecting more than that, especially if you're listing it as not working or untested.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 11:06:40 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 21, 2016 11:13:37 GMT
Convertors is the one old line I've thought about buying more into. I have an Omegatron and have looked at and followed listings on ebay for others over the years - particularly Alphatron (the 14 component combiner that featured in the French Diaclone comic Phil found). Some go really cheap, some are ridiculously expensive. The downer is that the expensive ones are the ones that don't look like they ought to be part of the line anyway - presumably rare because no one bought them at the time.
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Feb 21, 2016 11:24:59 GMT
There's an Alphatron going pretty cheap just now on ebay, delivering from Poland.
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Feb 21, 2016 11:26:09 GMT
Nooooooooooooooo. I want that now. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 12:01:33 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 21, 2016 12:03:41 GMT
The finest grins I've seen this decade. These chaps are REALLY happy about having this jet!  |
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 21, 2016 12:09:05 GMT
I bought a bunch of Omegatrons about 6-8 years ago a few from car boot sales and some more from ebay in order to cbuilda pretty nice boxed one that I think I still have.
Me and my brother also have a Sigmatron from when we were little. Its huge.
Got an Alphatron from a car boot sale and my cousin probably still has his Deltarian Fighter.
Its a very odd toy line.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 21, 2016 12:17:17 GMT
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