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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 18, 2008 20:24:55 GMT
He isn't. It's Marvel's 70th anniversary.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 18, 2008 20:28:45 GMT
I see.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 18, 2008 20:59:38 GMT
I had to google it, just to be sure!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 18, 2008 21:35:13 GMT
Good. I thought I was going mad. I was sure Black Panther was not introduced until some way into Stan and Jack's FF run.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 18, 2008 22:04:59 GMT
He was indeed. Then the thought struck me that perhaps he was some obscure Atlas/Timely hero first but sufficient net checking revealed the truth!
Andy
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Post by Gav on Nov 28, 2008 14:02:29 GMT
Just finished Batman R.I.P - and i have no idea where all these newspapers are getting the story that 'Batman is dead' and whatnot.
There's an explosion - and we're supposed to believe Batman was caught in it - and is now pan bread.
Fucking BATMAN got caught in an explosion...OVER WATER...and we're expected to believe he lies dead at the bottom of a river?
Fucking...BATMAN.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 28, 2008 14:07:24 GMT
Indeed, we will see Bruce Wayne back in the cowl by Summer of next year easily. He is after all, The Goddamned Batman!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 28, 2008 18:34:23 GMT
I have seen the issue in question and Batman does not die on panel, but he is in a very bad position and in dire peril. It's very much a 'how does he get out of that type moment'. I think the fun will be in:
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B: How other characters react to him being 'dead' -Ralph |
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Post by Gav on Nov 28, 2008 19:56:54 GMT
Batman being in dire peril, and later we find out how he survived?
Bravo Grant Morrison, we haven't seen such original writing in Batman since the days of Adam fucking WEST.
Argh, he annoys me sometimes- does G-Mo.
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Post by legios on Nov 28, 2008 22:14:01 GMT
Batman being in dire peril, and later we find out how he survived? In honesty a lot of this is a riff on the last time they removed Bruce from the cowl. That time it was being "permanently crippled", and this time it is being "dead". This one isn't going to be any more permanent than the other one to be honest. Give it a few years and he will be back. I've not read much of Morrison's Batman run - "Identity Crisis", "Fifty Two" and the resulting fallout has left enough of a sour taste in my mouth that I have pretty much deserted the mainstream DC universe until they get this whole "kill, torture, maim" thing out of their system - but I do have quite a bit of time for him as a writer. In his defense I suspect it is his intention to treat it as "Bruce Wayne is dead" for the remainder of his influence at the high levels of DC but with the full knowledge that the next guy along with reverse it quick-smart (cf the treatment of his X-Men run by Marvel - reversed so fast they almost erased it from the history of the real world). Karl |
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Post by legios on Nov 30, 2008 23:26:19 GMT
"Thor: Man of War": Matt Fraction's latest Thor one-shot - or, if Marvel were being honest about this - the last part of his Thor miniseries, sees Thor in full "god of war" mode. Having become enraged with his father, Odin, and with his pride dented Thor has declared war on all of the worlds - striking out in a blind rage - starting a chain of events that can only lead father and son to meet in battle. I'm not really doing it justice here - although I am making it sound like a fight comic that isn't quite the story that is being told here. Though there are plenty of fight scenes - Thor and Brunhilda facing off against a Frost Giant the size of a hillside is suitably epic, and the confrontation between Odin and Thor has a sense of weight to it that seems fitting for a battle of gods - the heart of the story is Odin having to face his sons flaws and shortcomings and to decide what he must do about them. It is a bit of an interesting experiment - a story about a Thor much closer to his original depiction than the usual Marvel version. (Marvel Thor is basically heroic, whereas the original sources are..... a bit less so shall we say). At times the hybridising of styles seems a little odd - none more so when the Warriors Three show up. (Not that I don't like the Warriors - indeed I have a great fondness for them - but they seem to fit uneasily with this somewhat rethought version of Thor). It has been an interesting experiment to reinterpret the Marvel universe Thor and some of the elements of his setting through a more mythologically flavoured lens. I'm not sure it has been entirely successful all the time, but it has definitely been worth trying.
Legion of Superheroes #48:
This titles last few issues are upon us, and there is a sense of the story starting to move rapidly towards its conclusion. Pieces fall into place, explaining the nature of the monstrous creatures that have attached the Earth and other planets, their relationship to the mysterious planet that has come careening into Earth's solar system and the true nature of the threat that is bearing down on the galaxy and the Legion. This is very much a title I will miss when it is cancelled. Taking advantage of the 31st Century setting it throws us a rationale for the true nature of the invaders that exploits some truly esoteric concepts in physics - lifeforms encoded as information, running as distributed process on the substrate of the universe itself - and makes it work as concept. And all that in an issue which is mostly comprised of that good old legion tradition - the new member try-outs. There are some nice nods to the past - Night Girl, and a lovely easter egg that can be read as a tribute to Jimmy Olsens time as a Legion member, and it does a good job of introducing a few new characters and fleshing out a previous guest star a little further, whilst never feeling like this is a forced deviation from the main plot. It isn't post-modern, or groaning with pseudo-relevance - it wants to deliver competent superhero adventures with a good chunk of content every issue. That its the only mainstream DC comic I am buying these days says something, as does the fact that they are cancelling it right out from under me. Ever get the feeling that a company just doesn't want your money......
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 4, 2008 21:09:58 GMT
Latest delivery off eBay (currently using Heroes Assemble just down the road from me in Devizes) I bought Wolverine: Origins #30 (Original Sin Part 5) but then realised I hadn't picked part 4 (X-Men Legacy 218) up yet.
X-Force #9 First issue I've felt not to be quite top notch though the moments are there - Elixir with the Vanisher and when the Smiley face robots show up at the end.
Thor: Man of War More of the same from the last 2 volumes. Washed over me a bit but read it late at night. Must read all three on the bounce.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 6, 2008 22:31:54 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 11, 2008 19:55:35 GMT
I was amused to see that DC have put out a random reprint of Watchmen #1.
.....yes.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 11, 2008 21:58:43 GMT
Captain America #44
More fun with somone who Bucky tried to kill when he was the Winter Soldier
Secret Invasion: X-Men #4
Decent finale, and this LS is one of the few occasions recently when all of the X-Men are shown working together.
New Avengers #47
How Luke met Jessica. Nice comic.
Secret Invasion #8
Why is it big crossover events for Marvel have strong beginings and endings but such weak middles that are nothing but mucking about for weeks ? House of M, Civil War and now this....
The reveal at the end is interesting - see bellow.
Astonishing X-Men: Ghost Boxes #2
Better than the previous issue. Both what if tales are interesting.
Secret Invasion: Dark Reign ?
So Norman's in charge and has gathered together a group of naughty people in power to help him ? Not a bad comic, lays out how it's going to be and makes sure you know Norman is still nuts. Though if they could have done it without knocking off the Swordsman.... but it's not like anyone cares about the Thunderbolts pre Ellis is it ? or even thought that it was better then ! And the way the Swordsman used his power was just so odd.... bad mistake I feel.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 11, 2008 23:44:32 GMT
Norman in charge doesn't hold much water for me. This bit from Dorian Wright sums it up for me hereAndy |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 12, 2008 7:19:41 GMT
which in turn highlights a problem I have with Marvel's Events now - each one feels like it's setting up the next big thing
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 12, 2008 11:13:48 GMT
Yes indeed. DC are stuck in the same pattern too, though at least Marvel try to tell a coherant story. There's some amusing chat about this in the most recent House to Astonish podcast!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Dec 12, 2008 11:37:17 GMT
In regards to Batman RIP, Final Crisis is actually stated to take place after that storyline, and Bruce is Batman, so I wouldn't worry so much
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 12, 2008 12:54:39 GMT
Y-y-you mean Batman isn't really dead?!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Dec 12, 2008 13:07:31 GMT
Well Dr Hurt DID curse him that the next time he wore the cape and cowl (Final Crisis) would be the last!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 13, 2008 22:42:38 GMT
These last three are from a while back. My LCS forgot to set them aside for me !
Uncanny X-Men #504 Emma goes walkabout in Cyclops mind and finds something interesting missing. Colossus - spending too much time in armoured form - runs into someone he knows from the past. Haven't we just done a Collosus past story ? Book was reading quite well till this point.
X-Factor #37 Val talks to Siryn while the other hunt for Darwain. Siryn's waters break. Better than I make it sound.
X-Men: Legacy #218 & Wolverine: Origins #30 The concluding two parts of this story read quite well back to back. It's an interesting twist that the Logan who first came to the X-Men knew who he was it's only events shortly after that caused him to forget. Lots of resoloution for Logan & his son. Not good enough to make me want to buy Origins again though (and there's a third Wolverine title coming !)
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 13, 2008 23:21:18 GMT
So that's:
Wolverine
Wolverine: Origins
Wolverine: First Class
Weapon X: First Class
Wolverine:Weapon X
For fucks sake Marvel sort it out.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 13, 2008 23:23:03 GMT
Don't forget the constant flow of Wolverine one-shots! Seems to be at least one a month.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 13, 2008 23:28:19 GMT
The mind boggles, we need another X-cull. Wolverine should have ONE TITLE. ONE YOU ASSHOLES!!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 14, 2008 18:44:59 GMT
I read a copy of the Eternals annual. It was readable, but left me cold. The Kirby reprint up the book was utterly tops though.
Also read Spider Man and X-Men #2. Looks great, but bland story.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2008 19:15:57 GMT
Yeah I read Spidey and X-Men 2 and would heartily concur. Lovely looking book. X-Men Noir - damn that was good reading!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 15, 2008 17:24:45 GMT
Andu, you forgot the WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN MAGAZINE!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 15, 2008 17:25:54 GMT
What?!
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 15, 2008 17:31:04 GMT
Just saw it in the March x-book solicits. The Wolverine poster book too!
-Ralph
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