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Post by Toph on Aug 11, 2014 21:36:02 GMT
The motorcycle being out of scale is not going to be an issue with them. There is a LONG tradition of deluxe motorcycles alongside deluxe cars and helicopters.
Besides, an out of scale motorcycle makes more sense on a team of rescue vehicles than a fragile and tempermental formula-1 racecar.
And likewise, if they have no issue with turning wildrider into a truck, and slingshot into a chopper, then i think they'd have no issue with dumbing the space shuttle off of a highly trained combat team of military vehicles, and replace it with a more appropriate fighter jet.
And of the three (groove, brawl, blast off), blast off is the most capable of being a straight repaint of an existing mold. And my personal preference is the other two need new molds more.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 12, 2014 9:17:50 GMT
You know I hadn't even got as far as thinking about reuses of these new molds. Of course. That's the benefit of Scramble City to Hasbro, they can rejig and re-release these figures til the cows come home with minimal need for totally new figures.
Riiiight. So it won't be just the two combiners then. We're sure to get loads more, then loads loads more as exclusive repaints, G2 versions and the like.
I just hope when this does happen that they keep the figures vaguely in touch with the originals. Those Technobots don't look like Technobots, but the Protectobots I can see working really well. Bruticus would absolutely need a new Brawl.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 13, 2014 7:49:55 GMT
Here's a thought...
Assuming they do do The Combaticons (likely) and Technobots (possibly) how about repainting Silverbolt, 2 Aerialbots, Brawl & NoseCone as Leo Kaiser ?
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Post by legios on Aug 14, 2014 20:02:24 GMT
Actually you could get an extra repaint out of that idea - repaint Alpha-Bravo as Deathcobra, the - shortlived - "non-toy" member of the team in Victory...
My Generations Wishlist is actually a sort of "double-barrelled" arrangement. Neither of which I really anticipate would actual happen in the real world. Admittedly it seems rather hypothetical anyway given that I have savagely slashed my toy buying recently, and adopted a "kind of need to see it in the plastic before I plonk down money for it" policy towards Transformers the chances of my seeing Generations toys in the forseeable future to buy seems rather small. But anyway, hypothetically, my "moon on a stick" list would be to have either:-
1) A slightly higher percentage of new characters per year - we've one this year in the form of the "Build-a-bot" winner, and arguably one next year in Alpha-Bravo (if you chose to interpret him as not being Slingshot working under an alias). The thing I liked about Transformers as a kid, and which still works for me as an adult, is that there were always new characters to meet and you had to pick favourites because you could never have them all. I've not really had that sensation for a while (except in isolated little ox-bows like when Rescue Bots have me a whole new load of Autobots to get to know).
2) If I can't have completely new characters, I'd want some from the corners of the Transformers shows I like. We've had a new Tankor, but he looks kind of lonely without his fellow generals - a new Obsidian, Jetstorm or Thrust wouldn't go amiss by me. Likewise we willhave had a grand total of one Masterforce character in Generations, and that as a very limited run exclusive. Karl wouldn't mind seeing a new Buster or Hydra, or perhaps Cab and Minerva. (Yeah, I know that the likelihood of us getting any of that outside an anniversary year is fairly close to nil. That's why it is my "wishlist" instead of my "what I think they might do" list.)
Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 18, 2014 8:29:23 GMT
Some suggestions using the existing deluxe moulds:
Orion Pax - Nemesis Prime or Ultra Magnus. Both would look good with an axe.
Megatron - a G2 Green jet in the tank colours. Or with the Dreadwing head as either BB, the RID or RM versions
BB - in red with a new head as Alternators Rodimus
Trailcutter/Hoist - Diaclone! A yellow version of Hoist would be both Diaclone and MW Hubcap
Waspinator - Buzzsaw. Pretender Bugly. A new head as BW Bumblebee.
Skids - Red Diaclone version
Armada Starscream - Thundercracker. Remould as Skywarp. Repaint Jhiaxus in his comic colours
Scoop - Scrapper
Centuritron - as a contrast to the black & green white & blue like the Metroplex Destruction team
Tankor - Universe yellow
Rattrap - blue as Pakrat. This'll be on TFCC's To Do list
Winglade - ???? Vehicle Black Arachnia?
Arcee - ???? Paradon Medic/Elita 1
Chromia - ???? Paradon Medic/Elita 1
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 18, 2014 9:44:34 GMT
Voyagers:
Springer - Battletrap
Blitzwing - Flkwheels. Megatron.
Sandstorm - Highbrow
Rhinox - BW Ironhide
Whirl - Spinister. New head, new hands, TMs - repaint Scoops?
Roadbuster - hmmmm - Sixshot ?
Sky-Byte - TM2 Cybershark
Brainstorm - difficult. No other jet Headmaster. Star Saber ?
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 18, 2014 17:00:09 GMT
OI already listed my hoped combiners repaints, for rest of the line
Orion Pax - I like Lio convoy, if we still needed a Kup it would work, theres probably a member of the lost light who it would work for.
Megatron - Megaplex or the blue micromaster chap.
BB - Hopefully the Stunticons will provide all the non car chested moulds we need for a while and BBs last use will be Nightbeat and possibly a Minerva repaint
Waspinator - Buzzsaw. ?????
Skids - ????
Armada Starscream - Thundercracker.(actionmaster) Repaint Jhiaxus in his comic colours Agreed
Scoop - Scrapper - yeah a non combining constructicon would be good, but if the combiner wars has legs I expect a full set (2 deluxes for the torso or one voyager with a legends add on and 4 interchangable limbs)
Centuritron - Flywheels (Or Battleflywheels, Flytrapwheels, or such like)
Tankor - Pass,
Rattrap - blue as Pakrat. This'll be on TFCC's To Do list - Hasbro will have to get on with a Terrorsaur first.
Winglade - ?? Slipstream maybe with some heavy remoulding
Arcee - ?? I don't know but I hope they come up with something really odd/unexpected and not just Paradon Medic type repaints.
Chromia - ??
Springer - Apparently works for anybody, if there was heavy remoulding (Head and shoulder mounted weapon with some of Sandstorms parts) I'd take an Impactor from it. (Marvel Impactor not being as bulky as IDW)
Blitzwing - too fatally flawed, but Battletrap would be okay.
Sandstorm - Highbrow
Rhinox - ????
Whirl - with new, head hands, lower legs and proper feet - Rotorstorm
Roadbuster - Another were theres probably a okayish Impactor
Sky-Byte - Captain Shark
Brainstorm - Star Saber possibly, with a lot of remoulding I can almost see Snapdragon
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Post by Toph on Aug 18, 2014 23:19:08 GMT
For repaints of the stuff thats already out?
Orion Pax - dunno
Megatron - Dreadwing and Skyquake (prime versions)
BB - pass. Hate this toy.
Waspinator - Buzzsaw, Bugly
Skids - Tarantulas (transmetal colors, prebeast)
Armada Starscream - Thundercracker, Actionmaster Thundercracker
Jhiaxus - Proper G2 colors, Terrorsaur (using Starscream head, prebeast)
Scoop - Cybertron Landmine, Armada Scavenger
Centuritron - Magnaboss or Tripredacus (both prebeast, intended scaled for G1Classics)
Tankor - No idea
Rattrap - Packrat, Labrat (new character, albino deco), Toxitron (new character, black rat, green robot parts)
Winglade - Slipstream?
Arcee - Minerva with a better name?
Chromia - Blackarachnia (prebeast), Lickety-Split
Springer - Dinobot (prebeast)
Blitzwing - let this mold die, if they don't intend to fix it.
Sandstorm - BW Megatron (prebeast, new head, in transmetal colors)
Rhinox - Backstop, Armorhide (G1 Ironhide robot mode colors)
Whirl - BW Scourge (prebeast), Rotorstorm (with remolding)
Roadbuster - Cybertronian mode Skullcruncher
Sky-Byte - Cybershark. But would not be sad to never see it used again.
Brainstorm - dunno
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Post by Toph on Aug 19, 2014 23:02:51 GMT
New molds-
Supreme:
-Powermaster Optimus Prime, G1 Voyager scaled cab, G1 style trailer that converts to Powermaster super mode
-Ultra Magnus, repaint of Optimus cab, new UM trailer
-Sludge, g1 robot, anatomically correct diplodocid beast
Leader:
-Grimlock, G1 robot, anatomically correct tyrannosaurid
-Scorponok, g1 update, energon style starfighter instead of base
-Fort Max, G1 update robot, battle placement and starship altmodes
Voyager:
-Starscream, IDW EJ Su body
-Shockwave, G1 update
-Soundwave, G1 update. Bypass brick and mortar stores and sell directly online.
-Slag, G1 robot, anatomically correct triceratops
-Snarl, G1 robot, anatomically correct stegosaurid
-Overload, Armada Overload/God Bomber homage. Becomes Apex Armor for PM Prime. Comes with Roller
Deluxe:
-Swoop, G1 update
-Blurr, G1 update
-Hotrod, IDW EJ Su earth mode
-Frenzy and Laserbeak, g1 updates, compatible with Soundwave
-Rumble and Ravage, g1 update, compatible with Soundwave
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Post by Toph on Aug 25, 2014 4:35:30 GMT
As is growing more evedent, Generations Springer seems to be the first truely universal mold, between him and Sandstorm, it seems to work for a surprising number of characters.
So I'm rounding up various concepts for discussion.
Springer-
Rodimus
Drift (g1)
Drift (aoe)
Dinobot
Battletrap
Crosshairs
Blue Bacchus
Sandstorm-
Megatron (bw)
Flywheels
Obsidian
Megatron (animated)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2014 7:27:42 GMT
Sandstorm: Highbrow!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2014 7:30:39 GMT
Springer: 3 Choices via another decent helicopter repaint
Vortex
Spinister
Tommahawk
Energon Quickstrike
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2014 7:37:45 GMT
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Post by Toph on Aug 25, 2014 17:38:35 GMT
Why you change my thread? It's not a wishlist.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2014 17:43:11 GMT
It's in the same general theme as what's been talked about here of repainting existing toys.
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Post by Toph on Aug 25, 2014 18:45:42 GMT
I was trying though to make a master post of concepts, so it wouldn't bog down a wishlist or any other thread, though.
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 5, 2014 16:57:12 GMT
I've actually been spending a potentially unhealthy amount of time lately not only figuring out who I'd like to see, but who they could also be retooled as, and, in a few cases, the engineering required. I have a couple of these completely figured out, if only I could be bothered to actually put pen to paper and design them.
Anyway:
SLAPDASH/DELUGE ~ also Leadfoot, Double Clutch.
DOGFIGHT/NEEDLENOSE
SLUGSLINGER/DOUBLEHEADER
GUZZLE/QUAKE
ROTORSTORM/POWERDIVE
SPINISTER/CROSSBLADES
RATCHET/IRONHIDE
aside from those I'd love to see Voyager class figs of Thunder Clash, Dinobot, and Deszaras, deluxe Tarantulas (TM), Carnivac, and Getaway.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 5, 2014 18:16:34 GMT
*IF* Thunderclash gets done I suspect he'll be an Op remould with Stunticon repaints as Turbomasters as a Botcon exclusive
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Post by Toph on Sept 6, 2014 5:15:57 GMT
Dezarus could also work for a repaint into Gigatron
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Post by primenova on Sept 10, 2014 12:56:16 GMT
TF UK fans Hasbro toy?
Could we decide on a toy that we would like Hasbro to make for the Generations line?
We have the fan vote that gave us a toy most people didn't want. But we could suggest a Metroplex type toy for the Generations line, but something Hasbro should not be planning. I'm sure they are already working on Trypitcon.
But I suggest Omega Supreme. I know we never got him in the UK until Energon - but he would look good made up to scale to Metroplex [that's not includeing looking at the 3rd party release one]
Some might suggest Overlord - but he should be MP line.
A true Bludgeon shell figure not the slightly let down tank release that had some issues with the toy or Galvatron but working out the issues with that new toy release too.
A IDW Ultra Magnus toy.
Would Hasbro ever read our e-mail if we sent it to them?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 10, 2014 13:56:55 GMT
Omega Supreme was done last year as an exclusive
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 15:04:56 GMT
Assuming our email doesn't get filtered into their spam folder...
I like the idea of a baseformer. As a UK forum, Omega's a good shout but as Phil said, it's been done recently (unless he's referring to something other than the Year of Snake redeco).
I'd love a Necrotitan to sit opposite Met (and it would save me making an expensive risky custom).
Staying with UK theme, maybe an Alternity Bumblebee (the mini cooper) painted in the Union Flag colours? Call him Bumblejeeves or something.
Maybe a Tornado Seeker or Chinook?
For my personal collection, I'd love a Legends Tap-out.
Pretenders are a good shout too but they're the only G1 range they've explicitly said they won't release in Generations line.
Were there ever any cartoon characters voiced by a British actor?
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Post by Jim on Sept 10, 2014 21:09:52 GMT
Alternity BB was a Suzuki Swift wasn't he? But a Mini Transformer would be a fine thing!
I also thought it might be fun to take a police car mould and do it up as different national / regional police vehicles for overseas exclusives, a Prowl for every nation.
-Jim
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Post by Toph on Sept 10, 2014 21:28:40 GMT
Customizable police car is something I thought would be awesome for a while now.
My original idea would be a special online order. You'd get a "blank" Prowl (would have a very generic, factory applied deco), and a set of sticker sheets for the town/city/state of your choice. So you could have a Prowl that represents your hometown.
I'd love to see something like that done somewhere, for someone.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 10, 2014 21:31:22 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2014 22:12:35 GMT
Omega Supreme was done last year as an exclusive I think there's scope for a new mould for him too. Omega's a character I'd like to see done properly with his tracks and base mode. The Energon figure is nice enough, but it's big and doesn't look much like the original, even repainted. The right size he wouldn't fit into any modern size class - Leader is too small and Titan is too big, but a good Omega Supreme toy would be top of my wants list for any kind of Generations release. Masterpiece too. And a 3P Animated. Would be on cloud nine if one was done. Shockwave would be my other choice. The Beast Hunters one is very nice, but I don't feel we have a definitive toy for him based on his original look outside Quakewave. |
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Post by primenova on Sept 10, 2014 22:41:44 GMT
The one issue I have with the original Omega Supreme toy is the whole tank mode running round on his legs & back shield. I know they have to be used to form different parts but it doesn't make the toy feel big.
That Prowl idea would be good & could also go 80's style with UK police car from back then & also maybe a few more characters too. Streetwise being a Panda car & Prowl being a bigger car - then fire chief car.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2014 22:43:45 GMT
I'm also not convinced Hasbro will do Trypticon. I know they've said they may do another titan figure in time, but they could get away with Metroplex because he's simple and despite the height doesn't have much bulk. A two foot Trypticon would be absolutely enormous and cost at least half as much again.
I reckon if they did another one it would be Scorponok, but I can't really see how they could do any of the others at Metroplex size without pushing the cost well past the $150 mark.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 10, 2014 22:57:59 GMT
Not UK specific exactly, but Voyager Darkwing and Dreadwinds would give a nicely sized combined Dreadwing.
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Post by Toph on Sept 10, 2014 23:48:16 GMT
Trypticon and Fort Max are the most likely titans. I think Scorp is way too well known as a normal transformer for them to waist him on that. His most famous trait is being one of the longest running and successful G1 decepticon leaders, and he is never portrayed as a citybot in any meaningful fiction.
Fort Max's most famous trait is being (and still is) the largest TF toy ever made. Plus he's the most simple bot of all four.
Trypticon is a bloody kaiju, and is Metro's nemesis.
I think he could be done in that scale for the same cost as Metro.
His transformation is largely just laying him on his back, and splaying him open. His legs and head are the only articulation to worry about.
Tail dragging doesn't bother me because I never equated him with dinosaurs. He's a proper kaiju, worthy of Godzilla.
So actually, I think Tryp can be done on the same scale for the same price as Metro, be made more simply, and be a bit more convincing of a base.
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