Paninivision - Marvel US Reprints in the UK

[The Doctor]

Oct 18, 2017 19:38:57 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Champions day tomorrow chums!

I MUST RUN TO THE NEWSAGENT!!!

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

New Champions, not the original!

[The Doctor]

Buying new Champions helps the cause that the original Champions may be returned to former glory!!!

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Didn't make it to the newsagent's today due to teeth and weather.

However Liz did in Minehead and got EXM & MWOM for me. MWOM demonstrates why it's important to put the title of the book large on the cover this month as the the lead strip and thus the big logo has changed!

[The Doctor]

Indeed.

EXM promises Inhumans V X-Men next month...

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

It won't be that long. And things will be better afterwars.

So what about Champions then?

[The Doctor]

It will be a while before I read it as I am stockpiling Paninivision until Civil War II ends!

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

2 weeks to go!

[Pinwig]

Hmm. I am beginning to see why X-Men comes in for criticism these days. I'm enjoying Avengers and Legends far more at the moment. The stories and characters have more depth. Death of X should be a pivotal comic given the ongoing saga of the terragen mist, but it just isn't very interesting.

[Andy Turnbull]

Oct 22, 2017 23:08:07 GMT Pinwig said:

Hmm. I am beginning to see why X-Men comes in for criticism these days. I'm enjoying Avengers and Legends far more at the moment. The stories and characters have more depth. Death of X should be a pivotal comic given the ongoing saga of the terragen mist, but it just isn't very interesting.

The X-Men books have been in a bit of a mess since Grant Morrison left. I liked some of Kieron Gillen's work but it was hampered by the utter dead-end the X-Men have found themselves in for years,

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

May 31, 2017 21:11:11 GMT Philip Ayres said:

The strip in issue nine starts with a box with a caption about something like "the land that would one day be America" and end with Loki and his mate capturing the dragon

The same pages are repeated in the middle of issue ten.

May 31, 2017 21:32:53 GMT Pinwig said:

Oh blimey, yes, there are ten pages repeated. The creator credits and 'the end' move about though. That's very odd.

Shows how well I took that part of the story in; I'd no idea what was going on.

Now have the digital trades so will check later....

Oct 30, 2017 22:07:59 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Grabbed the female Thor trades I didn't have plus the Thor/Eternals books that I foolishly sold trade copies of.

[Pinwig]

Cool. Be nice to know. I was surprised there was no mention of that in the letters pages.

[Philip Ayres]

One did send a letter....

[Philip Ayres]

The last 10 pages of Thor 6, which should have been in Marvel Legends 9, are missing replaced with the last ten pages of Thor 7 which are them printed in the correct place in Marvel Legends 10

I can see how it happened now I know which pages of which issues but even so......

[The Doctor]

Started on my backlog of Paninivision. There was some loud swearing. Marvel Legends has blown the ending of Civil War II which has yet to feature in AU!!! Just like when one title blew the mystery of who the new Thor was before it was printed! I had managed to stay spoiler free.

I am not happy. How hard would it have been to delay that Iron Man issue by chucking in some back catalogue material until Legends was in synch with AU? The spoiler was also in the 'story so far' text on page 2!

-Ralph

[blueshift]

Don't worry Ralph, Civil War II blew the ending of Civil War II, zing

[Philip Ayres]

Oct 30, 2017 23:52:45 GMT The Doctor said:

Started on my backlog of Paninivision. There was some loud swearing. Marvel Legends has blown the ending of Civil War II which has yet to feature in AU!!! Just like when one title blew the mystery of who the new Thor was before it was printed! I had managed to stay spoiler free.

I am not happy. How hard would it have been to delay that Iron Man issue by chucking in some back catalogue material until Legends was in synch with AU? The spoiler was also in the 'story so far' text on page 2!

-Ralph

Iirc that's just how it appears in the US run. You know the SOMETHING has happened but you don't know the why and how and that's teased out over the next few months.

[The Doctor]

Wow. So this is a cock-up that originated from Marvel US??? Good grief.

Paninivsion is still partly responsible as their 'story so far' recap makes it abundantly clear what happened to X!

-Ralph

[blueshift]

Oct 31, 2017 9:29:03 GMT The Doctor said:

Wow. So this is a cock-up that originated from Marvel US??? Good grief.

Paninivsion is still partly responsible as their 'story so far' recap makes it abundantly clear what happened to X!

-Ralph

Marvel's MO at the moment is more about headlines to get people to pick up their stuff and drum up interest rather than post-story reveals. A lot more stories especially built around events seem to do this (though partly I can understand as event spoilers can be unavoidable so why not structure the story so that it doesn't matter).

I really wouldn'y worry too much about having the end of Civil War II spoiled

SPOILER: Click to show

It's really really dumb and clumsy and ushers in one of Marvel's worst eras of recent memories.

[Pinwig]

It is stupid. Ralph's reaction is the same as mine on the previous page of this thread. I get the point about how you don't know when or why the event happens, but given the next issue box in AU this month leading up to the last part of CWII is basically X v Y!!! WHO WILL WIN?!? you can't help but think, I don't care anymore because Legends told me the answer two months ago.

I was really quite enjoying CWII until that happened.

[Pinwig]

Oct 30, 2017 23:17:30 GMT Philip Ayres said:

The last 10 pages of Thor 6, which should have been in Marvel Legends 9, are missing replaced with the last ten pages of Thor 7 which are them printed in the correct place in Marvel Legends 10

I can see how it happened now I know which pages of which issues but even so......

And they haven't even acknowledged a cock up that big... ?

[The Doctor]

The editorial for AU #7 invites readers to wonder how Civil War II will end this issue. We already know because the editorial of ML gave it away two months ago! There was even a picture!

-Ralph

[The Doctor]

From a conversation elsewhere it has been noted that Essential X-Men has been running continuously for 22 years! Is this the longest a US character/property has stayed in continuous publication on UK newsstands? I forget how long the Spider-Man title of the 70's/80's ran in its various guises. I forget if there was a gap between The Complete Spider-Man and Panini taking over Spidey.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Spider-Man Weekly www.comicpriceguide.co.uk/uk_comic.php?tc=spideyw

Dates: 1 17th Feb 1973-666 14th Dec 1985

& Zoids www.comicpriceguide.co.uk/uk_comic.php?tc=spidermanz

Dates: 1 3rd Mar 1986-51 16th Feb 1987

Complete www.comicpriceguide.co.uk/uk_comic.php?tc=spidcompl

Dates: 1 Dec 1990-24 Sep 1992

Astonishing v1 www.comicpriceguide.co.uk/uk_comic.php?tc=spidast1

Dates: 1 13th Nov 1995-150 Apr 2007

With successive volume to date

[The Doctor]

Mmmm. So both X-Men and Spidey have been on newsstands continuously for 22 years then though Spidey has had more issues.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Discussion on FB turned to Essenetial contents. Fortunately I have that data to hand:

E UK	UXM	XM	Old UXM	XMU	Wolverine	X-Treme/Astonishing	Other
1	300						Classic 12
2	301-303
3			109	3
4			141				MCP 117 X-Factor 92
5			142				MCP 118 X-Force 25
6	304						MCP 119-120
7		25	256				MCP 121
8			257		75		MCP 122
9			258	7
10		26					Avengers 368 WCA 101
11	307						Avengers 369
12	308, 310-311
13	309	30					Cyclops-Phoenix 1
14		31-32					Cyclops-Phoenix 2
15	312-313						Cyclops-Phoenix 3
16	314	33					Cyclops-Phoenix 4
17	315	34-35
18	316						X-Factor 106 X-Force 38
19		36			85		X-Force 38
20	317	37			85
21							Cable 16 Excalibur 32
22	318-319	38
23	320	40					X-Factor 109
24	321	42					Cable 20
25							X-Men Alpha #1 Astonishing X-Men #1
26							Amazing X-Men #1 Gambit and the X-Ternals #1 X-Man #1
27							Astonishing X-Men #2 Gambit and the X-Ternals #2 Generation Next #1
28							Amazing X-Men #2 Gambit and the X-Ternals #3 X-Man #2
29							Astonishing X-Men #3 Generation Next #2 X-Man #3
30							Amazing X-Men #3 Generation Next #3-#4
31							Astonishing X-Men #4 Gambit and the X-Ternals #4 X-Man #4
32							Amazing X-Men #4 X-Men Omega #1
33	322						X-Men Prime #1 X-Force #44
34		42-44
35	323-324		287
36	325	45
37	326	46-47
38	328						Sabretooth Special #1
39	327	48-49
40	329-330						X-Man #10 Avengers Annual #10
41		50					X-Man #11 Avengers Annual #10
42				10			Avengers Annual #10
43	331	51-52					Avengers Annual #10
44	332				99-100
45				11	101
46	333-334	53
47		54					Onslaught: X-Men #1
48	335				104		Avengers #401
49							Fantastic Four #415 Excalibur #100 X-Factor #125
50		55	1				Cable #34
51							Incredible Hulk #444 X-Factor #125-#126 X-Man #19
52	336						Avengers #402 Cable #35
53		56					Onslaught: Marvel #1
54	337-338	57
55	339	58-59
56	340	60					X-Factor #130
57	341-342	61
58	343-345
59							Onslaught: Epilogue #1 Classic X-Men #12 Psylocke And Archangel: Crimson Dawn #1
60							Psylocke-Archangel: Crimson Dawn 1-4
61		62-63					Generation X #27
62	346	64-65
63		66-67					X-Men 1
64					115		Generation X #29-#30
65			158		116		Generation X #31
66		68			117-118
67		69-70					Amazing Adult Fantasy #14
68	347-349
69	350-351						Marvel Comics Presents #89
70	352	71-72
71	353-355
72	356-357	73
73		74-75
74		76-78
75	358		GS1				Classic X-Men1
76	359-360	79
77	360-361	80
78	362	81-82
79	363-364	83
80	365	84-85
81	366	49					X-Men: The Magneto War
82	367	86-87
83							Magneto Rex #1-3
84	368-369	88
85	370	89-90
86	371	91	143
87	372						X-Men Annual 99
88	373	92-93
89	374	94	9
90							Astonishing X-Men #1-3
91	375	95					X-Man 59
92	376-377	96
93	378	97-98
94	379-380	99
95		100		27
96	381	101-102
97	382-383
98	384	103-104
99	385-386	105
100		106	4, 104
101	387						Maximum Security Dangerous Planet #1
102		107		29			X-Men Children of the Atom 1
103	388						X-Men Children of the Atom 2 Cable 87
104		108					X-Men Children of the Atom 3 Bishop the last X-Man 1
105							Cable #88 X-Men: Children of the Atom 4 X-Men: The Search for Cyclops #1
106	389						X-Men: Children of the Atom #5 X-Men: The Search for Cyclops #2
107		109					The Search For Cyclops #3 Children Of The Atom #6
108	390	110					X-Men: The Search for Cyclops #4
109	391-392	111
110	393	112-113
111				34		1-2
112		114				3-4
113		115-116				5
114		Annual 01				6
115		117-118				7
116		119-120				8
117		121-122				9
118		123-125
119		126		47		10
120						11-13
121						14-16
122						17-19
123		127-129
124		130-132
125						20-22
126		133-134				23
127		135-137
128		138-140
129		141		32,36		24
130						25-27
131						28-30
132						31-33
133		142				34-35
134		143-144				36
135		145-146				37
136		147-148				38
137		149-150				38
138		151				38-39
139		152				40-41
140		153				42-43
141		154				44-45
142	442	155-156
143	443					xTreme 46 Astonishing 1
144						2-4
145	444					5-6
146	445-447
147	448-450
148	451			(2004) 3,6		7
149						8-10
150		166		(1991) 39		11-12
151		167-169
152	452-453	170
153	454-456
154	457-459
155		171-173
156		174					Phoenix Endsong 1-2
157							Phoenix Endsong 3-5
158	460-461	175
159		176
160	462						House of M 1-2
161	463						House of M 3-4
162	464						House of M 5-6
163	465						House of M 7-8
164		177-179					House Of M: The Day After
165	466-468
166		180-182
167		183-185
168		186-187
169	469-471
170	472-474
171	Annual 2006						Deadly Genesis 1-2
172							Deadly Genesis 3-5
173							Deadly Genesis 6, Black Panther 14-15
174							Black Panther 16-17, Civil War X-Men 1
175							Black Panther 18, Civil War X-Men 2, Marvel Team Up 100
176							Black Panther 21, Civil War X-Men 3-4
177						13-14	Black Panther 22
178						15-16	Black Panther 23
179						17-18	Black Panther 24
180						19-20	Black Panther 25
181						21-23
182						24, GS1
183	492						New X-Men 44, X-Factor #25, X-Men: Messiah Complex #1
184	493	205					X-Factor 26
185	494	206					New X-Men 45
186		207					New X-Men 46, X-Factor 27

[browny87]

phil man youre a demon at tracking

[Philip Ayres]

Anyone spot this week's Panini mistake?

That wasn't All New Avengers 17 & 18 in Avengers Universe, it was Uncanny 17 & 18!

www.comixology.co.uk/All-New-All-Different-Avengers-2015/comics-series/58085

www.comixology.co.uk/Uncanny-Avengers-2015/comics-series/54234

[Philip Ayres]

An afternoon in the long boxes and perusing comicvine.gamespot.com/series/ now means my X-Men table, above, has been extended up to date, and I have the later 50%ish of a similar one for Avengers.

I also now know which issues which titles have skipped in recent times!

[Philip Ayres]

Nov 2, 2017 22:28:18 GMT The Doctor said:

Mmmm. So both X-Men and Spidey have been on newsstands continuously for 22 years then though Spidey has had more issues.

-Ralph

Spidey's been biweekly for at least some of that

X-Men had

186 issues in volume 1

58 issues in volume 2

27 issues in volume 3

16 issues so far in volume 4

287 issues so far.

I'm missing the last 75 from volume 1 and 1-17 & 23-26 of v2.