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Post by Pinwig on Jan 4, 2022 19:29:04 GMT
30 Years Ago This Fortnight: Issue #332End of the Road - Part 2: The sudden arrival of a newly rebuilt Optimus Prime stuns the Decepticons while Grimlock begins a fightback against his pursuers. Bludgeon is unable to process what is happening until Prime's ship transforms into the Last Autobot and explains how he has combined the essence of Optimus with HiQ to form 'the chosen one'. Bludgeon commands his forces to attack, but the Last Autobot resurrects the fallen Autobots and with the arrival of Grimlock's team, the Decepticons are defeated. As Bludgeon limps away, Optimus reveals Cybertron has re-created itself in the wake of Unicron's destruction with the Last Autobot's help and that finally, the Transformers can go home. The Greatest Gift of All: Reprint of #250. Elsewhere, Colin and Steve manage to overcome Megabrain but Colin accidentally sets off a nuclear bomb; on the letters' page, Blaster tries to hold it together but finally breaks down in tears when asked about what has happened to the Nebulan companions of all the Transformers who have been destroyed in recent issues; and Transformation reveals the most devastating news of all - the new monthly format announced just two issues ago will not be happening after all and that this, as many feared, is the final issue of the comic. 
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 4, 2022 19:40:38 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 4, 2022 19:51:07 GMT
30 Years Ago This Fortnight: Issue #332End of the Road |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 4, 2022 20:24:15 GMT
Phil is blank posting in despair!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 4, 2022 22:12:54 GMT
No I very carefully chose exactly what I quoted
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2022 6:21:28 GMT
This is the fourth TF comic to contain a story called 'End of the Road'.
When does 'This Fortnight' technically begin and end? Is there an ISO standard for it?
Martin
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Post by The Huff on Jan 5, 2022 12:12:45 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 5, 2022 14:40:23 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2022 18:31:13 GMT
END OF THE ROAD.
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 5, 2022 19:06:01 GMT
When does 'This Fortnight' technically begin and end? Is there an ISO standard for it? No, but there probably is an argument about it. Technically the fortnight ends with the off-sale date, which is Saturday January 18th 1992. But it being the on-sale date is Saturday January 4th 1992, it's a fortnight with 15 days in it. Or if you want to be sensible about it, which I'm sure no one does, the fortnight ends on the 17th as that would usually be the last day that issue would be on sale before the next took over a day later. However in this case, we know there wasn't one and in any case, we also know the new issues frequently appeared on Fridays. So in that case, the next fortnight started a day before the last one ended. Yes, probably an argument about that. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2022 19:12:33 GMT
END OF THE ROAD.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2022 19:14:47 GMT
END OF THE ROAD!
Martin
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Post by Someone on Aug 4, 2022 17:11:35 GMT
30 Years Ago This Week: Issue #204 Time Wars - Part 6: The carnage continues as more bodies fall before Galvatron and Megatron's combined might. Scorponok wades into the fray and is accidentally shot by Ultra Magnus, who is then battered by Scorponok's troops. Galvatron's confusion worsens as he remembers seeing events through Megatron's eyes differently and is tipped over the edge when he realises he is fighting Rodimus and not Optimus Prime. Just at that point, Optimus appears from limbo having used the Matrix to escape. He squares up to Galvatron.  Replying to the bold text: How can a TFUK reader reconcile in-universe Optimus having the Matrix here with the later error/retcon that it was still in his old body and still keeping Matrix Quest? |
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Post by Cullen on Jan 5, 2023 19:31:35 GMT
Wow 30 years since the end of TFUK. I could just crumble to dust.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 5, 2023 19:44:01 GMT
30 Years Ago This Week: Issue #204 Replying to the bold text: How can a TFUK reader reconcile in-universe Optimus having the Matrix here with the later error/retcon that it was still in his old body and still keeping Matrix Quest? Missed this, but there is some wiggle room, as Optimus doesn't state he has the Matrix within him. They talk of the link between Optimus and Rodimus through the Matrix, so you could argue his matrix affinity allowed him to connect with Rodimus and then emerge from Limbo. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 5, 2023 19:52:58 GMT
I'm still of the mind that the Matrix was just a computer programme and the magic bauble was just hijinks.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 5, 2023 19:56:46 GMT
I'm still of the mind that the Matrix was just a computer programme and the magic bauble was just hijinks. -Ralph I'd argue the Matrix is a program, but the bauble serves a purpose. In fact you could argue that the bauble contains all the Matrix versions, it will contain the source code - the original matrix, as well as the versions which sat in the mind of Prima, Prime Nova, Sentinel Prime, Optimus and so on. It's like a glowing USB drive with the same file and all it's revisions. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2023 20:01:49 GMT
The Creation Matrix was partly portrayed as a computer program, so elements of it could have been saved onto the floppy disk that HiQ used to create Powermaster Optimus Prime. Even after Buster Witwicky gave the Matrix back to Prime, he still had visions from the Matrix in relation to Special Teams. And I think Powermaster Prime showed some residual psychic links to the Matrix in the US comics around the time of the Matrix Quest.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2023 20:04:16 GMT
you could argue that the bauble contains all the Matrix versions The bauble in Prime's body (or was it in his head at that point?) didn't contain squat after he transferred the program to Buster's brain. Martin |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 5, 2023 20:09:16 GMT
You say that.
I read it more like it's two Factor Authentication - you can have the bauble, but you need to have a user who is keyed into it. The bauble was no longer in Decepticon possesion as they only had Prime's head at that point so the previous archived Matrix versions were not available to them. Also Prime didn't transfer it all, there was still enough to allow Shockwave to give life to the Constructicons.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 5, 2023 20:15:03 GMT
My memory was hazy as to whether or not Shockwave implied he had Matrixed the Constructicons' brain modules before or after Prime gave Buster the Matrix.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 5, 2023 20:30:59 GMT
US Issue 8 has Shockwave state he has tapped Optimus' mind and used it for the Six constructicons.
US Issue 9 has an editorial note to say it was done in Issue 6, but there's nothing on the page to suggest that was the case. You could argue the device connected to Prime was doing so but there's nothing in the text.
US Issue 10 - has Optimus stating he no longer has it so can't give Jetfire life, so you could interpret that as an all or nothing approach to the Matrix.
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Post by Someone on Mar 19, 2023 9:12:12 GMT
I thought there should have been a story with Optimus in the then-present day obtaining the Matrix container to house the Matrix and theoretically prevent its unauthorised usage, smoothing over the alignment with the cartoon's presentation and later popular media overriding depiction of it. Subsequent flashbacks of already having the container obviously ruined that.
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Post by Someone on Mar 27, 2023 17:50:33 GMT
What's the ideal reading order:
"Time Wars", then "Club Con", "Flames of Boltax", "Cold War", "Dark Star"?
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"Club Con", "Flames of Boltax","Time Wars", then "Cold War", and "Dark Star"?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 27, 2023 19:22:16 GMT
Club Con, Flames of Boltax, Time Wars, Cold War and Dark Star - there are characters in Time Wars who are offlined by a cosmically powered Starscream.
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Post by Someone on Apr 3, 2023 12:56:05 GMT
Club Con, Flames of Boltax, Time Wars, Cold War and Dark Star - there are characters in Time Wars who are offlined by a cosmically powered Starscream. Thank you, Chris McFeely. Prime returns to Earth in "Cold Comfort and Joy" unarguably Christmas 1988 with "Time Wars" specifically set 1st January 1989. "Flames of Boltax!" states that the Underbase will arrive within a week. It makes a lot of continuity occur within days. As published, Prime has already resumed leadership in "Club Con" before the following "Cold Comfort and Joy". I'd prefer all of one storyline before the other. Either way, "Time Wars" must conclude before "Underbase". |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 1, 2024 18:22:31 GMT
A check for purposes that will become apparent: do we consider 20th September the date Transformers UK issue 1 went on sale? |
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 1, 2024 20:07:06 GMT
I would say so. 20th Sept 1984 was a Thursday. That sounds right to me for the fortnightly issues and the fact those covers had two dates would suggest on and off sale dates. Once it went weekly it was obviously just the off sale date and I'm sure at that point I used to get mine on a Friday before the Saturday it was due on sale.
I just realised Missing Link Prime could do that cover pose. So... we need a Missing Link Soundwave.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 1, 2024 20:18:30 GMT
Good shout! I must put ML Convoy into that pose!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 28, 2024 0:29:45 GMT
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