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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 9, 2019 13:04:51 GMT
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Post by Toph on Apr 12, 2019 19:59:21 GMT
So i got Big Powered today, and sadly the quality is suspect at best.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 12, 2019 20:11:08 GMT
I am underwhelmed still by them.
That torso join on Dai Atlas is weak.
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Post by Toph on Apr 12, 2019 20:48:05 GMT
Aye. That is definitely the worst part.
The other two have their issues, too. It feels like most of the new parts (Dai's new waist connector included) are made of cheaper plastic than the holdover parts.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 12, 2019 21:55:44 GMT
Oh no!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 12, 2019 21:58:12 GMT
None of them are as good as the toys they were adapted from (Sky Shadow, Misfire & Twin Twist)
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 12, 2019 22:06:23 GMT
No! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
This can't be true!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Apr 12, 2019 22:47:17 GMT
Less of all this negativity! I haven't even managed to get mine out of the plastic yet! Let me down gently!
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Post by Toph on Apr 13, 2019 3:12:34 GMT
Positives:
They all have some really, really nice paint work.
I mean, they don't half-ass it at all.
I really like Dai Atlas's wings. TF throws anything on an arm and calls it a "shield." Atlas's wings really are a pretty good shield.
It's not a terrible set. The poor quality is heartbreaking, but it still feels more like a labor of love, than a cash grab.
I would have happily paid a bit more for better quality.
And I would have preferred Dai Atlas to remain in two pieces like overlord, rather than the connecting joint he has.
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Post by Llama God on Apr 13, 2019 7:07:46 GMT
Think I can only agree with Toph, really. And it definitely feels like a labor of love - they have indeed gone all out on this in terms of the decos, and they are lovely. I'm still happy with mine.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 14, 2019 14:44:06 GMT
Had a shot of Andu's. They are awful, especially the new plastic parts. They feel like KO's. I am staggered these were seen as acceptable quality to release.
They photograph well. Best experienced that way!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Apr 14, 2019 16:04:43 GMT
Oh dear. This is putting me completely off ordering that new Star Convoy.  |
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Post by Toph on Apr 16, 2019 1:11:04 GMT
Having had them for a while, and the disappointment of the poor quality, my opinion has improved a bit.
Buyer beware at full price. But if you could snag them at a discount, I'd say they're definitely worth it.
Also, I realized that tank guy can swing his turret under his waist exactly like Armada Megatron.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 6, 2019 12:01:57 GMT
A interesting morning spent sorting through my medium (Deluxe, Voyager & Leader class) Legends figures from the TR era and trying to work out which to keep at hand and which to file in the loft. I have all the TR western versions and it doesn't make sense to be using valuable space down here to hold two versions of the same toy close to hand. Plus there's a zero space cost to putting these in the loft, their boxes are up there already in the Titans boxes so they can be returned to their original packaging. Everything Legend was in alt mode in the box, yes? These are keep to hand toys Blurr
Targetmaster Hot Rodimus (Hot Rod)
Targetmaster Chear (Kup)
Scourge
Windblade
Broadside Superior decos to their TR versions, and in the case of HotRod & Kup new parts. My TR Broadside has cream crackered stickers. Super Ginrai
Godbomber
Leo Prime
G2 Megatron Unique to the Legends line Fortress Maximus
Dinosaurer (Trypticon) Don't have western versions. Dlx Black Convoy
Deadlock
Convobat
Magna Convoy
Headmaster Set
Voyager Black Convoy Exclusives, So to the loft go the following: Hardhead
Skull (Skullcruncher)
Galvatron
Broadcast (Blaster)
Weirdwolf
Chromedome
Highbrow
Wipe (Mindwipe)
Soundwave
Brainstorm
Astrotrain
Targetmaster Triggerharpy
Sixshot
Targetmaster Doublecross
Targetmaster Misfire
Targetmaster Slugslinger
Perceptor (w/ Ramhorn)
Octone (Octane) (w/ Ghost Starscream)
Clonebot Set
Blitzwing
Overlord
Clonetron Set
Targetmaster Twin Twist
Targetmaster Topspin These last two have been stripped of their Targetmasters. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 6, 2019 19:22:59 GMT
WHAT.
You can't take their Targetmasters away!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 6, 2019 19:32:14 GMT
Can and have!
Windblade, Topspin, Twintwist & Doublecross should never have had those Targetmasters in the first place. As soon as I got Doublecross, I gave his TM Haywire to Blurr!
Similarly the extra Titanmaster vehicles and extra heads have been in box for ages
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 6, 2019 19:51:25 GMT
Phil makes the sensible and correct choices. The TMs need to be returned to their rightful G1 owners.
They only came with the wrong ones because Takara were slow out if the gate with the idea. I wonder now if Hasbro did TR full in the knowledge the Battlemaster line would eventually follow, or if it was a reaction to the popularity of the Tak diddymen.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 7, 2019 6:26:57 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 7, 2019 16:55:29 GMT
Can and have! Windblade, Topspin, Twintwist & Doublecross should never have had those Targetmasters in the first place. As soon as I got Doublecross, I gave his TM Haywire to Blurr! Similarly the extra Titanmaster vehicles and extra heads have been in box for ages Phil has lost his mind!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Jun 7, 2019 19:01:48 GMT
I also do not approve of this.
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Post by Toph on Jun 7, 2019 19:07:49 GMT
They were intended to be separated.
Haywire came with Doublecross so they wouldn't have to reissue Blurr, thus angering all the fans who already bought blurr.
What was wrong, was that they included three targetmasters who's autobot partners don't exist, when they should have given us Fracus and Nightstick.
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Post by Benn on Jun 7, 2019 20:10:05 GMT
Similarly the extra Titanmaster vehicles and extra heads have been in box for ages This is the part I take issue with! |
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Post by Toph on Jun 7, 2019 20:33:18 GMT
Most of those heads are exactly the same as the hasbro released titanmasters.
The vehicles however often sport unique decoes, though.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 7, 2019 21:36:17 GMT
The deco is different on all the heads, and, with the possible exception of Repugnus, much better on the Japanese versions of the same characters. I'll see if I can find/do some comparison photos Let's get the list from TF Wiki LG24 Shockwave & Cancer - redeco of Crashbash/Squeezeplay
LG28 Rewind & Nightbeat - redeco of Nightbeat
LG29 Wheelie & Goshooter - NEW CHARACTER redeco of Loudmouth/Siren
LG37 Jaguar (Ravage) & Bullhorn - redeco of Terribull
LG38 Condor (Laserbeak) & Apeface - redeco of Apeface
LG44 Sharktron (Sharkticon) & Sweeps - NEW CHARACTER redeco of Scourge's Fracas with altered face
LG47 Kickback & Clouder (Double-Dealer) - NEW CHARACTER redeco of Ramhorn
LG48 Gong (Brawn) & Repug (Repugnus) - minor redeco of Repugnus, with different eyes.
LG54 Bumble (Bumblebee) & Excel Suit Spike - NEW CHARACTER, NEW MOULD
LG57 Octone (Octane) (w/ Ghost Starscream) - NEW CHARACTER, redeco of Nightbeat with NEW FACE
LG64 Seaspray & Lione - redeco of Sawback. Brawn & Grimlock were in the Headmasters 6 pack Repugnus is the only one to have both his head and accessory, which came with Broadside, released in the same colours in Japan. It would be fair to say I only bought some of those to get the heads. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 8, 2019 11:14:59 GMT
As ever, apologies for the quality of the photos In all bar one case, western on left, Japanese on right First the same character repaints: Nightbeats   Japanese Nightbeat is a perfect colour match to the T30 dlx when you get the Shapeways adaptor  Crashbash/Cancer   Terribull/Bullhorn   Apefaces   Sawback/Lione   Repugnus    Then the New Character repaints Loudmouth/GoShooter   Ramhorn/Doubledealer  Ooops! Swapped them round  Nightbeat/Starscream   Fracas/Sweep Western Fracas on the left, Japanese Fracas in the middle, Sweep on the right   Finally the original moulds Spike   Master Warriors - GoShooter, from above, with Minerva and Cab   |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 8, 2019 14:42:10 GMT
I...I...might need Japanese heads now.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 8, 2019 14:53:35 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 8, 2019 15:03:04 GMT
Yes, didn't have that to hand. Skytread is all but identical, but Grimlock and Brawn are very different. Burns knows of this already and has been frisked for my set more than once
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 8, 2019 15:08:07 GMT
Japanese heads for Ralph. Phil does not need them.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 8, 2019 15:25:20 GMT
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