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Post by Toph on Aug 1, 2015 21:36:43 GMT
Function x is an oddly mixed bag.
Chromedome was fan-friggin-tastic. And perfect size.
Smartrobin was alright, and a perfect size. Weird face sucked. But had a bit more overall origibality than the tw version, which was also too big.
Their Weirdwolf and Mindwipe are pretty great. Weirdwold being better in function than design, though.
Though Highbrow, Apeface, and Hardhead are way wrong for this deluxe scale.
Toyworld has rocked the dudes more deserving of their larger size. Hardhead, Fort Max, and Skullgrin are perfect.
I would be thrilled to see Highbrow, Hosehead, and the Horrorcons from them.
Or as Hasbro voyagers.
My preference between the three, comes in terms of who's best suited to which class scale each group works in.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 1, 2015 21:38:06 GMT
That Copter looks like they're going for a Crossblades/Blue Bachus retool!
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 1, 2015 21:59:37 GMT
Toyworld has rocked the dudes more deserving of their larger size. Hardhead, Fort Max, and Skullgrin are perfect. I would be thrilled to see Highbrow, Hosehead, and the Horrorcons from them. Or as Hasbro voyagers. Veering off topic, but by coincidence I was dusting my Toyworld Headmasters earlier. I think Hardhead is fantastic, right on the money and extremely posable, but he's notably an early model for them because he's got very loose over time. Hardbone has definitely softened with age. His plastic feels more fragile than the newer ones too. Their Brainstorm I prefer to the Hasbro one because it's more solid, but the head is definitely off. Skullcruncher is the best made in terms of plastic quality, he's far ahead of Hardhead, but his massive, massive feet make him nigh on impossible to get any kind of pose out of. Apart from that he's awesome. I do have the Fort Max, but I must confess he's still in his box. It seemed a bit much to have three against one on the 3P Headmaster shelf. Toyworld need to do me a Weirdwolf. |
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 1, 2015 22:14:17 GMT
I can only think hes a leader becasue the inevitable Soundwave remould needs to be leader sized to go along with Megatron and the jets.
How big is Ultra Magnus head compared to Brainstorms? I'd have assumed bigger, but then the headmasters and new headmasters were compatible so a larger Prime head could still fit Brainstorm.
meh.
This is good I guess. I sort of dont feel they all need to be voyager sized, but of course they do to have functional headmasters.
And thats why I dont like the all voyager headmasters. Much as I dont like it we got a deluxe rodimus, as indifferent as I am to it deluxe Blur it's there (ditto Scourge) and deluxe Kup with the replacement head is fantastic. Being targtmasters would be new, but Cyclonus has already done that and now is a voyager.
Maybe if they max out the deluxe size class they work, Rodimus being a bit smaller than the likes of Springer is about right, but I want a Cloud Rodimus quality toy that was designed as Rodimus to begin with.
Is it possible the deluxes are still going to be combiner limbs?
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 5, 2015 13:34:31 GMT
Transmissions is still slowly passing out bits of info from their unknown contact on this line. Whether you take it as gospel or not is another matter, but recent reveals have been: - New Headmaster Galvatron which doesn't look like a Leader Megs remould, may have G1 style canon alt mode. Robot design is G1 fused with IDW Spotlight version, later stated to be Voyager size.
- Headmaster figures will be renamed 'Titanmasters', implying they are masters of the Titan bodies they head.
- New Headmaster Sentinel Prime, later stated to be Voyager size.
- New Alpha Trion figure, which has a ship and robot mode but also seems to have 'beast-like' kibble but isn't a Sky Linx remould.
- Of the movie figures Blurr and Scourge have been named.
- Of the Headmasters Brainstorm, Chromedome, Hardhead, Highbrow, Horri-Bull, Nightbeat, Siren and Skullcruncher have been named.
- Confirmation of Legends Ravage which has the ipad type mode, but also a plane mode (!?) and Rumble (who is red) turns into ipad and tank.
- The main Headmaster figures will have 'helmets' as part of the body, and the Headmaster robots turn into faces that slot into the helmets on the bodies.
- The Headmaster heads for Blaster and Soundwave have their colours reversed, so they effectively look like mini Shattered Glass versions of themselves.
There's been discussion several times about how the size class definitions seem to be unclear, and that maybe the size class currently called Voyager will be relabelled as Deluxe for Titan Wars. |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 5, 2015 13:38:55 GMT
I can get on board with this!!
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Post by Toph on Sept 5, 2015 15:53:07 GMT
So according to that, they're less headmasters, and more Brainmasters.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 5, 2015 16:07:14 GMT
So according to that, they're less headmasters, and more Brainmasters. If they are all interchangeable I assume this means they will all look good on each others bodies rather than the old 'this is clearly someone elses's head' thing of the old Headmasters. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 5, 2015 16:18:24 GMT
It's certainly all very interesting.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 5, 2015 20:30:50 GMT
Transmissions is still slowly passing out bits of info from their unknown contact on this line. There's been discussion several times about how the size class definitions seem to be unclear, and that maybe the size class currently called Voyager will be relabelled as Deluxe for Titan Wars. If Voyagers are the new Deluxes that will drive folk mental ah ha. -Ralph |
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Post by Toph on Sept 5, 2015 20:42:19 GMT
Voyagers are the new deluxes
Right is the new left
Up is down
Orphan is the new Black
Cats and dogs, living together!
It's a world gone mad!!!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 5, 2015 20:57:40 GMT
That bit doesn't make sense. A new name is one thing, but reusing the old ones sounds like this info has got confused somewhere. Be interesting to see if any of this turns out to be true. The characters that have been named seem like a really eclectic bunch.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2015 17:20:12 GMT
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Post by Stomski on Sept 6, 2015 17:27:38 GMT
Voyagers are the new deluxes Right is the new left Up is down Orphan is the new Black Cats and dogs, living together! It's a world gone mad!!! I think you mean 'Mass hysteria!'. |
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Post by Llama God on Sept 6, 2015 17:58:11 GMT
I was away for the weekend, and only able to read some of this thread on my phone. But what I read made me squeal like a... like a very excited thing. February and the reveal of the Titanmasters line can't come fast enough! (Well. December and the inevitable leaks...)
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 6, 2015 19:06:18 GMT
You know there's so much of this coming out now that it's almost starting to feel like spoilers. We'll know all of this line before we even see it. IF this is all true. However on the last Transmissions they did say that they think the well is almost dry now. They're not expecting to learn a lot more.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 8, 2015 16:47:57 GMT
In Titan Wars everyone will turn out to be Bumblebee.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Sept 10, 2015 22:22:16 GMT
Okay, so based on all the rumors we've heard about Titan Wars toys, combined with what already exists, I've formulated a theory.
What we have-
•Ultra Magnus: a fairly giant toy (oversized for the character, though honestly not dramatically so), that does away with the traditional Optimus core/cab, but throws in an absolutely absurdly and inappropriately tiny Dumbledorus Albumus. A character portrayed as only a head shorter or so than Rodimus.
However, when you look at the two side by side in vehicle mode, compair the car to the tiny sculpted features in the truck cab, the tiny ladders and doors. The car is in scale, for a tiny human driver. The minicon would be a full size TF while the truck turns into a gigantic mecha.
•UM's designer has pointed out the scale of these features, and said that he really loves it and wants to do more TFs in this 1/XXX scale (xxx being whatever number it is)
•The current line is based around TFs that become giants by merging together, and who's combined forms are in print, typically oversized to what they really should be scale wise.
•The current line ALSO features "normal" sized characters who are now in absurdly giagantic toys for the main theme of the line: Jetfire, Ultra Magnus, TWO Megatrons, Thundercracker, and Starscream. Normally, these aren't a big deal, but in context they're all almost equal to giant combiners.
•The current line ALSO features other "normal" TFs in just about the smallest size range, presenting them as rediculously undersized compaired to the giant leaders, and the other "normal" TFs in the deluxe range. Rodimus, Huffer, Pipes, Wreck-gar, Powerglide, and others.
In contrast with the combiner giants, and Metroplex, they are pretty good. But when put with the uncombined deluxes and voyagers, and especially the leaders, they're comical.
The rumors-
•The line is heavily gimmicked towards Headmasters
•The Headmasters themselves function more like Brainmasters from a gimmick/functionality standpoint
•Instead of being like actual headmasters, the heads of the TF transform into tiny versions of themselves: IE Optimus's head comes off and turns into a tiny optimus styled robot. Blaster's head comes off and turns into a tiny Blaster styled robot.
•Headmasters are now renamed Titanmasters.
•We're getting new names for the various size ranges.
All of these factors form a bigger picture, leading me to this theory about Titan Wars:
Traditional TFs in the new line will be represented by minicons, and legends. Minidict Amberbatch, Prime's head, and legend Rodimus are so-called "normal" sized TFs. The bodies they combine with are actual Titans that are styled after their "normal" bodies.
Instead of Optimus's head coming off and turning into a human sized Optimus Robot as the term Headmaster implies, "full sized" Optimus turns into the head of an optimus styled Titan.
•The current toyline is already and purposefully setting the stage for this change in scale, possibly even with Megatron, Starscream and the other traditional powerhungry baddies becoming straight up titans.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 10, 2015 22:35:37 GMT
That's... an interesting theory. The only reason I'd discount it is because I really don't think they'll have given the idea *that* much fore-thought. But it's possible. Especially with what you say about the Titan Transtectors. However, with regard to Minibus Dickus: Don't forget, in MTMTE there are *two* Minimus Ambi - there's a smaller one inside the... normal-sized Ambus. With the smallest one being the "real" one. It's unclear as to which one we're seeing more frequently in the comic nowadays, but I've been assuming that the Ambus that comes with the toy is the smallest, the irreducible him, and that we're just missing the intermediate form. So it does work. Sort of.
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Post by Toph on Sept 10, 2015 22:47:58 GMT
I don't think they thought that deeply into mimblebomb amplepuss, but I do think they really have been starting to plot this out this far in advance, and here's why:
Mold reuse.
They may not have had as strong a plan for Titan Wars when they started to go full swing into CW, but I do think they had a good basic idea that could be built on, or scrapped.
But either way, that's not the main part of the theory.
The main part is that normal sized TFs in the upcoming line are represented by heads, legends, and minicons like mimblebomb ampersand, with the toys they combine with representing giant titans.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 11, 2015 8:38:43 GMT
Well, hopefully we'll find out one way or the other at New York Comic Con, in a month's time..!
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 11, 2015 16:21:35 GMT
It's an interesting theory, CJ, re the size change.
I know I haven't read the comic, still (shut up Doc' you old nag!), but the whole Mobius Armpit thing, as a concept, does nothing for me. I like Ultra Magnus to be Ultra Magnus.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 11, 2015 22:24:59 GMT
I think this is a sound idea. It's what we were theorising when dissecting they line art a while ago. It's the only real way the Titan name can work. I'd be surprised to see more actual titans than just the fort max we've already seen. Surely Hasbro would only do one that big per year tops.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2015 23:46:06 GMT
It's an interesting theory, CJ, re the size change. I know I haven't read the comic, still (shut up Doc' you old nag!), but the whole Mobius Armpit thing, as a concept, does nothing for me. I like Ultra Magnus to be Ultra Magnus. He still can be. The Minimus toy can be completely ignored and the Magnus toy works fine as it is and still feels 'Magnus-like'. At least it did to me when I had a shot at one. I'm not a huge fan of the Minimus concept myself but I thought the toy was ok. -Ralph |
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 12, 2015 13:29:10 GMT
It's an interesting theory, CJ, re the size change. I know I haven't read the comic, still (shut up Doc' you old nag!), but the whole Mobius Armpit thing, as a concept, does nothing for me. I like Ultra Magnus to be Ultra Magnus. He still can be. The Minimus toy can be completely ignored and the Magnus toy works fine as it is and still feels 'Magnus-like'. At least it did to me when I had a shot at one. I'm not a huge fan of the Minimus concept myself but I thought the toy was ok. -Ralph That is very helpful information, Doctor, thank you. Aaaaand... HE'S BACK ON THE LIST! |
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Post by Llama God on Sept 12, 2015 18:58:48 GMT
As he should be. Having finally opened mine, he's a really fun toy, with a nifty transformation.
But if you don't like Muddypuss Armpits, you should get the Takara one - who wouldn't want a teeny Alpha Trion?
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Post by Toph on Sept 12, 2015 19:21:43 GMT
UM- "Daaaawwwww, lookit the cute widdle Alpha Twion!!!!"
AT- "I am not cute! I am an ancient and wise transformer!"
UM- "Imma keep him in my chest!"
AT- "wait whut"
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 19, 2015 17:16:30 GMT
No new rumours in the recent Transmissions episode, however I've got my own tangential theory that struck me earlier today. We've recently heard that Botcon next year is unusually early at the start of April. We're theorising here that Titan Wars will launch after 2016 CW Wave 2 is done - which would put it in the window that has hit US retail in May this year, with early releases leaking out in April. So - Botcon early to make it a special launch party for Titan Wars?
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Post by blueshift on Sept 19, 2015 19:57:00 GMT
The main part is that normal sized TFs in the upcoming line are represented by heads, legends, and minicons like mimblebomb ampersand, with the toys they combine with representing giant titans. I think you have something there, but then the main figures won't be stuff like cars etc, as you can't really have a giant Transformer-sized Ford Pontiac ...OR CAN YOU? (Flashback to Action Masters) |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 19, 2015 20:26:52 GMT
That might be why we're hearing the vehicle modes are Cybertron styled rather than earth. You could get away with exciting space vehicles with no directly comparable size.
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