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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 19:07:37 GMT
That Gizmodo article seems to be a complete list of the Hascon exclusives. Yeah and most of those exclusives are pre-releases or shared exclusives, which is a bit rubbish given that they're, you know, Hasbro.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 28, 2017 19:16:39 GMT
So, nice figure, an essential purchase because with the new bonnet that works really well as Arcee, but no need to panic about getting one from overly expensive preorders. Good show!
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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 19:17:38 GMT
So, nice figure, an essential purchase because with the new bonnet that works really well as Arcee, but no need to panic about getting one from overly expensive preorders. Good show! I do feel oddly disappointed that it's not a straight Chromedome repaint though!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:17:45 GMT
So is Ultra Magnus the head for Arcee and not Daniel? The toy itself looks nice and is on my wishlist. I like the original Arcee character though never saw the prior Generations deluxe figure in a shop alas. No, she has Daniel as a head, but also comes with the Ultra Magnus die-cast Titanmaster that was originally going to come out with the missing boxset Ah right. Good on both points then! Ralph must have it. -Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 28, 2017 19:19:22 GMT
What! this is much better. Blurr's svelte hips make sense now.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:20:03 GMT
RE: TR as a line. As it was never stated it would consist of 'sets' of certain characters it literally can't be said to be missing anything. It wasn't advertised as a partwork series. Besides, there is potential for further toys of that type to appear further down the line. After all, it looks like we are seeing more CW-type toys in the PUTTUP line. We also see things like the Insecticon remakes of the original three characters being split over three lines and so on. Well yes, but at the same time: -Clearly the line is being curtailed with only one new mold in wave 6 (unless that was Hasbro's clever plan from the start) -There were two more boxsets planned (unless Hasbro were just tricking fans) -There's like, 90% of the rest of the Once again I ask: show me a sourced statement or press release that stated four boxsets were due for release in TR. -Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 19:20:10 GMT
What! this is much better. Blurr's svelte hips make sense now. I'm joking. Only sort of though. One of the original 80s plan for Arcee was a straight Chromedome repaint
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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 19:27:09 GMT
Once again I ask: show me a sourced statement or press release that stated four boxsets were due for release in TR. -Ralph The below, plus the fact that Hasbro made the figures for the other two boxsets and did the art (clones, Arcee, Ultra Magnus plus the Arcee/Magnus card art). Maybe they did it for the fun of it or to trick people??? The Hasbro plan was obviously four boxsets until really late in the day when for whatever reason (assumedly no interest from retailers) the second two didn't happen. I'm not sure why this is so controversial! Yes: These graphics are taken from the boxes: Chaos on Velocitron (Speed) Siege on Cybertron (Strength)
On each box the relevant symbol is coloured red. Why slap the graphic on he box if you're not intending to do two more sets for the last two symbols?
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:33:09 GMT
I HAVE THE POWER OF TEN TIGERS!
POW! POW! POW!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:34:03 GMT
Once again I ask: show me a sourced statement or press release that stated four boxsets were due for release in TR. -Ralph The below, plus the fact that Hasbro made the figures for the other two boxsets and did the art (clones, Arcee, Ultra Magnus plus the Arcee/Magnus card art). Maybe they did it for the fun of it or to trick people??? The Hasbro plan was obviously four boxsets until really late in the day when for whatever reason (assumedly no interest from retailers) the second two didn't happen. I'm not sure why this is so controversial! Yes: These graphics are taken from the boxes: Chaos on Velocitron (Speed) Siege on Cybertron (Strength)
On each box the relevant symbol is coloured red. Why slap the graphic on he box if you're not intending to do two more sets for the last two symbols? There is no controversy. Merely informed speculation being confused with solid fact. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:35:04 GMT
OUT OF THE SKY HIS ROCKET SOMETHING SOMETHING!
FLASH!
DEFENDERS! DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH!
*lightning flash*
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 19:40:35 GMT
MASTER OF MAGIC, SPELLS AND ILLUSION! ENEMIES CRUMBLE IN FEAR AND CONFUSION!
MANDRAKE!
DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH! DEFENDERS!
*lightning bolt*
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 19:46:26 GMT
That Gizmodo article seems to be a complete list of the Hascon exclusives. That makes sense in as much as we now know the two Tribute releases were exclusives elsewhere, and we've had no other leaks of art or the like beyond Arcee and Magnus, but one Deluxe and a diddy head is a bit underwhelming. there's still the Scorponok head on the Trypticon cereal list to be accounted for. Beyond that there's two heads which we think, but aren't 100% sure, are for Laser Op and Tribute Orion Pax. One of them MIGHT be in another 2 pack with Scorponok.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 19:48:08 GMT
there's still the Scorponok head on the Trypticon cereal list to be accounted for. Beyond that there's two heads which we think, but aren't 100% sure, are for Laser Op and Tribute Orion Pax. One of them MIGHT be in another 2 pack with Scorponok. That's a good point. If that's how they are releasing what was in the two missing boxsets, do we think we know what the missing deluxe is? (also a surprise to see the tank mold as Gutcruncher in that pic rather than G2 Megatron!!) Edit: Maybe that deluxe WAS Orion Pax. Have we seen his card art yet?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 19:51:28 GMT
No card art with Pax, which along with him not having Titans Return on his box, brings it into question if his Titanmaster is on the Trypticon list.
Both the remaining Titanmasters are Autobots but we know there are faction mistakes elsewhere.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 28, 2017 20:52:07 GMT
Much as I support the argument that there were two other boxed sets planned, I'm not sure that Arcee is from them. The Hascon exclusives would have been planned for a while; I think Arcee would always have been intended for that.
The clone two pack is a big question, but I'm wondering now if the other two boxed sets haven't been cancelled at all, and they're coming next year as part of PotP.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 28, 2017 20:57:00 GMT
Much as I support the argument that there were two other boxed sets planned, I'm not sure that Arcee is from them. The Hascon exclusives would have been planned for a while; I think Arcee would always have been intended for that. The card art for Arcee and Magnus is cropped from the same big image. Arcee isn't an exclusive, they are saying she is available there /first/
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Post by Toph on Jul 28, 2017 21:27:24 GMT
RE: TR as a line. As it was never stated it would consist of 'sets' of certain characters it literally can't be said to be missing anything. It wasn't advertised as a partwork series. Besides, there is potential for further toys of that type to appear further down the line. After all, it looks like we are seeing more CW-type toys in the PUTTUP line. We also see things like the Insecticon remakes of the original three characters being split over three lines and so on. -Ralph While I do agree with you, you do need the Headmaster gimmick to make Headmaster toys work properly. The Horrorcons were a perfect fit for the Voyager size, Scorponok for Leader. It seems odd that they've done them and have done certain other toys instead. You know, given that Sixshot seems to be a one off mold not really intended for repaint or reuse in the regular retail, I kinda feel a little insulted now that they chose him and not Scorponok.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 21:52:34 GMT
Much as I support the argument that there were two other boxed sets planned, I'm not sure that Arcee is from them. The Hascon exclusives would have been planned for a while; I think Arcee would always have been intended for that. The card art for Arcee and Magnus is cropped from the same big image. We're not 100% sure it's the same big image. Two missing boxsets afterall
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 21:54:20 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2017 22:20:22 GMT
2 blasters! Hooray!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 22:52:01 GMT
The new head on her Titanmaster isn't a bad go at Danial in his Exo Suit.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 28, 2017 22:58:27 GMT
I notice the packaging for this has the boxed set intelligence symbol attached to Ultra Magnus. Well actually I suppose it's for both of them.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 23:20:30 GMT
Where have you seen the packaging?
We knew Magnus was the intelligence head from the functions on the Trypticon cereal
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2017 23:21:32 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Jul 29, 2017 6:20:47 GMT
The card art for Arcee and Magnus is cropped from the same big image. We're not 100% sure it's the same big image. Two missing boxsets afterall Oh yes, for some reason I thought it was Gutcrunchers leg in the background. Do we know whose leg it is?
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Post by Llama God on Jul 30, 2017 3:59:19 GMT
I have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion about box sets, so will instead say only this:
It's a Rebirth-accurate Arcee! Fucking YES!
I've been waiting for this toy for like thirty years now. Back in the day, I knew that the US had more toys than were released over here, but I never knew for sure which ones actually existed. I was disappointed when I discovered there never was an Arcee headmaster.
Until now. Hurrah!
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2017 11:19:41 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2017 14:22:07 GMT
I'm still completely at a loss as to what is unaccounted for.
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Post by blueshift on Jul 30, 2017 14:31:16 GMT
I'm still completely at a loss as to what is unaccounted for. Scorponok - Which I assume they were hoping would win that fan vote, would have fit the Trypticon slot. Hopefully we'll get one SOMETIME! Apeface/Snapdragon - coming PotP apparently Hosehead - Other two Autobot Headmaster Jrs were releases as the Titanmaster heads. Is there a version being released with Godbomber in Japan? Grotusque - Last Monsterbot. Weird to be getting 2/3, but then again weird that the other two are different size classes Slapdash/Joyride - assume they're coming in PotP, that would be a better fit anyway Am I missing anyone?
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