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Post by Pinwig on Jul 27, 2018 9:23:56 GMT
So when Simon Furman started writing, he referred to Mirage's power in terms of holograms, which blurred the lines between his powers and Hound's. Interesting. The only place Mirage is specifically stated to be able to create holograms is in the cartoon - it's actually in his amended cartoon bible biography: "ABILITIES: Photon-disruptor can make him invisible, or alter his physical placement or appearance. Can also project holographic images. Expert marksman with armor-piercing rocket-dart hunting rifle."
I'm also of the opinion that's only there because there was a lot of misunderstanding in the very early days at Marvel Productions about what Mirage's abilities actually were.
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Post by Toph on Jul 27, 2018 11:42:03 GMT
As a kid, I always wondered why the guy named Hound could make holograms, instead of the guy named Mirage.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 27, 2018 16:53:08 GMT
I...no...what...
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 27, 2018 19:17:06 GMT
Well, I believe, Hound's techspecs only mentioned him being able to make holograms of maps, not other things as well. Certainly his short techspecs only said maps.
The whole hologramy thing confuses the issue...
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 27, 2018 19:33:04 GMT
WHAT. ... Phew. Saved by the Universe version: www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=HoundHound can cast 'simple illusions'. I'd no idea the main focus of his ability was to scan areas and produce maps. That is fupping brilliant. And also how he created the rocket base in MTMTE part 3.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 27, 2018 21:42:12 GMT
I am amazed Phil has not appeared to claim that Hound and Mirage had their tech specs mixed up. He's slipping.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 28, 2018 20:15:11 GMT
A mirage is generally seen near the ground. The ground is often green. Mirage should be green. Therefore Hound and Mirage were swapped. Proof.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 28, 2018 20:16:42 GMT
OMG, Fortmax2002 is actually...
BIG PHIL!!!!!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 28, 2018 20:42:39 GMT
The clue was in my genius of swapping Optimus Primal heads.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2018 20:56:25 GMT
You didn't swap the Primal heads, I did and nobody noticed apart from you!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2018 20:58:07 GMT
A mirage is generally seen near the ground. The ground is often green. Mirage should be green. Therefore Hound and Mirage were swapped. Proof. More of the surface is sea than anything else. The sea is blue, Mirage is therefore the correct colour
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 28, 2018 21:02:20 GMT
The sea can be other colours.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 28, 2018 22:09:39 GMT
Night-time waters are black....
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 29, 2018 20:12:10 GMT
Water is not blue. Pour yourself a glass and see.
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Post by drmick on Jul 29, 2018 22:35:30 GMT
The sky isn't blue either. I learned that from Curtis in Home and Away in one of his first appearances. This was before they ret-conned him into being a bit on the simple side. Viv and Emma, eh? Remember them?
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2018 9:11:03 GMT
Water is not blue. Pour yourself a glass and see. You are correct. Phil's water knowledge is poor. -Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2018 9:14:13 GMT
You could say it was vapour thin.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2018 9:16:34 GMT
I ask a sciencologist: what is the *actual* colour of water?
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2018 10:01:14 GMT
In large enough quantities it has a blue tinge.
In Mirage quantities it doesn't. Therefore Mirage = Hound.
TRUTH.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2018 10:08:16 GMT
Having to be a primary school science teacher these days, what colour things are is the one thing that still blows my mind. Why is this blue? well it's because it absorbs all other colours and only reflects blue light back at you. So it looks blue to you.
Right, so what colour is it then? Blue, because it reflects blue light. So if I'm not shining any light on it at all, is it still blue? because then it can't reflect any blue at you. I dunno. Turn the light off. Click Okay, what colour is it now. I dunno, it's dark. I can't see.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2018 10:18:08 GMT
Fun isn't it? Another one for them... is space black?
Some things have a colour because they absorb other wavelengths of light (leaves, grass etc), others because they preferentially scatter certain wavelengths of light over others (water, the sky, etc) and others because of neat little sub-atomic structures pulling optical trickery (butterfly wings, some invertebrate shells, etc) and others because they emit light themselves (stars, lava, glow worms, etc).
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2018 10:18:29 GMT
I feel Phil may start a colour thread soon.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2018 10:59:16 GMT
It is amazing, and no matter how many times I beef up on the subject before teaching it, I still doubt myself and question what I'm saying.
It's like when you start looking at objects using other spectrums like infrared or x-ray, all of a sudden your head explodes when you realise you're only seeing things with your own eyes in a very limited way.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2018 10:59:35 GMT
I feel Phil may start a colour thread soon. We need a science question of the day thread.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2018 13:02:40 GMT
SUB ATOMIC STRUCTURES???
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 30, 2018 13:29:35 GMT
Hmm. Sub- may be taking it too far actually... we'll stick with molecular.
How these molecules are layered in the outer skins or wings of many invertebrates creates interference in light waves hitting them making the light move in and out of phase (and so appear or disappear) depending on what angle you view them at. Like with a rainbow on the underside of a CD.
I saw a paper last week looking at the same effect in a flower. The interference there is set up by small bulges filled with liquid that run along the edges of the cells on the surface of the petals.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2018 18:15:06 GMT
So that is why Sunstreaker's shoulders are red!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Jul 30, 2018 18:43:36 GMT
You know why they're really red, right?
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2018 18:48:39 GMT
Obvious. Sunburn.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 30, 2018 18:53:21 GMT
So that is why Sunstreaker's shoulders are red! -Ralph You know why they're really red, right? I think you'll find it gets condemned as a Phil's mad theory upthread.....
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