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Post by Toph on Jun 29, 2015 19:15:20 GMT
Forget the model of car, US police cars have never used that deco. It's distinctly japanese.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 29, 2015 20:43:21 GMT
Forget the model of car, US police cars have never used that deco. It's distinctly japanese. Ahhhh, yes, I think I've heard that mentioned before. Interesting. (Prowl looks fraking awesome though no matter what, of course.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 9:52:56 GMT
Some Autobots like to have a contrasting accent colour on their shoulders.
-- Graham
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Post by Benn on Jun 30, 2015 10:06:11 GMT
And it's just occurred to me that this is another poll without 'Sausages' as an option.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 30, 2015 10:13:12 GMT
sausage is not a colour
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Post by Llama God on Jun 30, 2015 10:34:29 GMT
Yes it is. There's a whole spectrum of sausage, from "uncooked" to "over-bbqed".
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Post by Benn on Jun 30, 2015 11:35:51 GMT
Or you could cover the black plastic with a sticker of some sausages.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 30, 2015 11:45:12 GMT
"From now on that's who you'll be - Sausagestreaker!"
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 30, 2015 11:58:16 GMT
Whether sausage are appropriate or not they should always feature in polls as decreed by Hub Law.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 12:46:15 GMT
If you can find one that's a suitable size, you could put a sausage into Sunstreaker's Diaclone compartment.
-- Graham
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 30, 2015 12:50:38 GMT
I think the only sausage that would fit in there would be a lego one.
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Post by Benn on Jun 30, 2015 15:48:16 GMT
That still counts.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 30, 2015 16:54:58 GMT
Whether sausage are appropriate or not they should always feature in polls as decreed by Hub Law. -Ralph To The Doctor we listen! For is he not our spiritual leader?! OUR NEXUS?!?!?!!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 26, 2018 16:27:21 GMT
It popped into my head earlier today, in the cartoon Mirage can turn himself invisible. No mention is made to invisiblity on his techspecs. It states he can cast mirages of himself. Where did the invisibility come from?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 26, 2018 16:30:28 GMT
How do we know Mirage even exists as a physical being?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 26, 2018 16:36:14 GMT
Yeah we do. I have the toy.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 26, 2018 17:02:42 GMT
His TF Universe entry says "Mirage carries a rear-mounted electro-disruptor which is able to interfere with the circuitry of an opponent by casting discrete packets of electrical charges at him. Hence, he never is situated where he seems to be when it is in use, and can even use the disruptor to give himself the illusion of a different physical appearance, which he can sustain for up to six minutes."
I suppose not being where you seem to be is effectively the same thing as being invisible. In 'The Enemy Within', Mirage got electrocuted and this enhanced his abilities so that he could save Brawn by making him appear to be where he wasn't.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 26, 2018 19:04:20 GMT
How do we know Mirage even exists as a physical being? How do we know any of us exist as physical beings? -Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 26, 2018 19:09:07 GMT
Phil does not exist. GET HIS TOYS!
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2018 20:09:48 GMT
Good question, Shockers, and one I've written about at length in an as yet unpublished Sunbow Sundays entry. Mirage is an interesting character as far as the cartoon goes because, like Shockwave, his character was altered from the original to suit the needs of the show.
The short answer is that the light cage/invisibility bit in the cartoon is a visually simple way to demonstrate his tech spec abilities, which if you think about it could be confusing without a visual cue to indicate what's happening.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 26, 2018 20:40:14 GMT
I DENY THIS REALITY!
Mirage has always been invisible! It's his one character trait!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 26, 2018 20:51:48 GMT
Sammy.... Sammy... *soundless night time walking in dream... or was it*
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 26, 2018 21:24:03 GMT
The clue is in his name. Nothing in his tech spec or longer TFU entry says he can turn invisible, he creates mirages to make it look like he's somewhere he isn't, or something he isn't.
What's interesting is that he does this through electrical disruption - nothing to do with interfering with light. Hence his toy having an electro-disruptor. Meanwhile in the cartoon this was changed to a photon-disruptor, suggesting an attempt to explain his cartoon invisibility happens through bending light.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 26, 2018 21:29:44 GMT
It would have to be a pretty precise electro (or photon!) scrambler acting on a TFs optics and/or brain to cast specific illusions like that!
I wonder if humans are immune?
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 26, 2018 21:30:03 GMT
Or just get er.. scrambled in a different way. Messy.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 26, 2018 22:12:28 GMT
I think Pins has nailed it there. The Cartoon people went for invidibility 'cos it's easy to explain and easy to depict.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 27, 2018 6:35:05 GMT
"My electro-disrupter is fully charged up. It not only interferes with Decepticon circuitry, it also makes me appear to be where I'm not. That's why I'm called Mirage." (TF US #1)
"What? Is this some kind of trick?" "You guessed it, Laserbeak! Mirage isn't always where he seems to be! That's why I'm called Mirage!" (TF US #4)
Throwing his reserve power into an electro-disrupter, Mirage scrambles the Decepticon's sensors and quite simply vanishes from sight! (Man of Iron)
"It also affected my power to create holographic images of myself. My power was increased a thousand-fold. I found I was able to project images of whatever I pictured in my mind." (The Enemy Within)
So when Simon Furman started writing, he referred to Mirage's power in terms of holograms, which blurred the lines between his powers and Hound's.
Also, in 'Crisis of Command' (not by Furman), when Ravage shoots Mirage with a missile and it goes straight through him, he thinks, "A hologram!"
Martin
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Post by Llama God on Jul 27, 2018 6:41:31 GMT
His whole tech specs were just a cunning mirage. Believe nothing! Including this post!
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Post by blueshift on Jul 27, 2018 7:03:43 GMT
Have we ever had a story where Mirage thinks he is sneaking around and invisible on Earth but doesn't realise his electro-disruptor only works on robots?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 27, 2018 7:08:19 GMT
Have we ever had a story where Mirage thinks he is sneaking around and invisible on Earth but doesn't realise his electro-disruptor only works on robots? Why else would he drive around looking like a Formula-1 race car with no driver, and think he's blending in? Martin
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