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Post by Bogatan on Oct 23, 2015 19:03:57 GMT
The more I look at that picture the more I think they are more or less red. Those red lights wouldnt have caused them to look that uniformly red, not when theres what seems to be a much larger white light above them.
Ramhorn and sea clamp are both in the dark red to brown range and there robes cover what would be the toys blue bits. The red lights just enhancing their natural colours.
Theres no excuse for cicadacon though. Well aside form their tiny cameo not justifying the costs of a completely diffeeent colour scheme from the other two.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 23, 2015 19:11:13 GMT
They're not supposed to be red though. They're lit by the red lights off the table. Explain he red parts under the table that can't be lit by the uplighters! |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 23, 2015 19:13:28 GMT
Theres no excuse for cicadacon though. Well aside form their tiny cameo not justifying the costs of a completely diffeeent colour scheme from the other two. Green isn't more expensive than red! |
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 23, 2015 19:48:02 GMT
They're not supposed to be red though. They're lit by the red lights off the table. Explain he red parts under the table that can't be lit by the uplighters! the only one with exposed bits under the table is Sea Clamp whose brown colour isnt that far removed from the red and his Takara version is pretty much exactly that red so wouldnt need the red light to hit him there, though it probably would. Ramhorn asa dark brown character lit by a red light looks about right to me. Cicadacons arm can be seen under the table, but the light on the table would probably just about hit it where it is. I suppose you could make a case (other than money saving) that Cicadacons lower arms and head are white so a red light would make them pretty red. The robe covers the rest of the torso and legs, the torso which is being hit by the red and white light is a mix of colours, the parts covering his legs are only being hit by the white light and so show something closer to its true grey/white/blue colour. Theres no excuse for the blue upper arms looking red (except cost) |
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 23, 2015 19:53:11 GMT
Theres no excuse for cicadacon though. Well aside form their tiny cameo not justifying the costs of a completely different colour scheme from the other two. Green isn't more expensive than red! Yes it is. Greens no cheap floozy. But yeah I would assume for the length of time on screen they couldnt justfy the time colouring them individually, which is fine for Ramhorn and seaclamp, but less so for cicadacon. |
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Post by Toph on Oct 23, 2015 20:13:11 GMT
Explain he red parts under the table that can't be lit by the uplighters! the only one with exposed bits under the table is Sea Clamp whose brown colour isnt that far removed from the red and his Takara version is pretty much exactly that red so wouldnt need the red light to hit him there, though it probably would. Ramhorn asa dark brown character lit by a red light looks about right to me. Cicadacons arm can be seen under the table, but the light on the table would probably just about hit it where it is. I suppose you could make a case (other than money saving) that Cicadacons lower arms and head are white so a red light would make them pretty red. The robe covers the rest of the torso and legs, the torso which is being hit by the red and white light is a mix of colours, the parts covering his legs are only being hit by the white light and so show something closer to its true grey/white/blue colour. Theres no excuse for the blue upper arms looking red (except cost) Add to this that they're on screen for a minute, and it's far easier and cheaper to color the animation models red, than it is to give them even partial decoes, and then recolor them with the lights. And the silver parts seem to be clothing that's not part of their superstructure, that is more reflective of the lightsource above. However, all the red parts are lit from below, from the table judging by the shadows. The station just got hit with a major disaster. Lights are off, alarms are blairing, it this were the Enterprise they'd be at Red Alert. I'm pretty sure the intent is that they're red because they're lit by red lights. just that the animation models are colored red as cost savings. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 23, 2015 20:36:17 GMT
To me the major light source is the overhead light above. The limit of the red light produced by the table can be seen by the glow they're producing and that's not much. The overhead lightis illuminating their true colours and, to my eye and judgement, it's red.
We will agree to differ.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 23, 2015 20:39:55 GMT
They're all blue and pink with yellow polka dots!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 23, 2015 20:50:53 GMT
OOoh so the torso will have two heads then? The 'five figures, five new heads' just made me assume! Think so. Pete Sinclair said the combiner has a new head. He said five new heads, so I guess we've seen the figure now who isn't getting one. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 9:36:26 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 9:43:30 GMT
All broken links, Phil  When's the last reveal? I hope it is this weekend, I am expecting something bonkers for the torso. If it isn't Hot Spot as a lobster I'm gonna throw a table. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 9:46:40 GMT
curses! Bear With, looks fine here!
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 9:50:08 GMT
I've been using imgur to host pics. You can even just copy-paste them into it online! It's crazy easy!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 9:52:10 GMT
Should be sorted now.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 10:22:53 GMT
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Post by legios on Oct 24, 2015 10:24:00 GMT
I'm going to break with the pack and say I really like the Cicadacon. It is a fantastic colour scheme - it doesn't have much to do with the BW toy whose name it has taken being..Er...not a Cicada in any way shape or form. But then, the Tarantulas doesn't really have anything tarantula like about it either... (I am always amused by the whole giving vehicle modes to characters so identified with their animal forms that they actually take their names from them.). But the colour scheme on it is really nice, I actually think it is one of the better looking of these. Tarantulas' colours do that vehicle mode no favours at all, it gets away with it in humanoid but it seems to lose "definition" in vehicle mode. And the Ravage still looks very random, like a strange SirToys thing found in a pound shop or post office.
The Ramhorn almost gets away with turning the Brawl mode into an Combat Engineer vehicle, but could do with some more greebly bits other than the drill to really sell it.
Karl
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 10:32:06 GMT
It is a fantastic colour schemel And it will look nice when they use it for Windsweeper too in next year's subscription line!!  That said, these are all photoshops. How nice they will look will depend on the type and quality of plastic used. They could look swish or awful (looking at you, shoddy Hasbro Combiner War Wheeljack!) |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 10:41:38 GMT
Similar but in no way the same  |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 10:44:49 GMT
The Ramhorn almost gets away with turning the Brawl mode into an Combat Engineer vehicle, but could do with some more greebly bits other than the drill to really sell it. What it really needs is the turret facing the other way. |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 10:46:39 GMT
Similar but in no way the same Windsweeper seems to be the same just with the brightness turned down! That said, they're both photoshops, once in hand they may look vastly different (or even more similar!) |
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 24, 2015 10:52:20 GMT
This sets going to bug me I basically like it, but so far the only one I dont have an issue with is Tarantulas and those who only just recieved the TFSS version may feel less than pleased with that one too.
I dont mind Tripredacus being based on the show, but it wouldnt have hurt to acknowledge the fact that at a time when CG was crazy expensive the three character models were put together as cheaply as possible. Having acknowledged that then do something to enhance them a little. The red is over powering so why not apply some paint detailing or a wash to show off the moulding details.
FPs photoshops are never great so there is a chance they will be better. And to be fair they have done that by adding hte insect wing detailing to the wings which I really like, but they dont help the robot mode that really needs them.
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 24, 2015 10:55:32 GMT
Similar but in no way the same But they could have avoided similar a bit by using Airraid with Skydives head instead of a straight repaint of Skydive again. Likewise I cant get past using Breakdown instead of Deadend for Ravage. |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 24, 2015 11:20:06 GMT
I think Windsweeper has better colours in Robot mode, but the insect wing pattern on the plane wings for Cicadacon is nice.
I was thinking about the overall combiner appearance based on these colours - if Sea Clamp is red too it could be pretty cool. Red body/red arm & leg on one side, black/dark blue arm and leg on the other. That *might* work. Alternatively, being scramble city, you could have red torso & legs, dark arms or red upper body and dark lower body.
If I could do anything to this set it would be to make Tarantulas black and not blue to really make that colour scheme work. Nice matched - the total opposite of the rainbow insanity of the TFSS figure. I think the three Tripred figures will look great together, even if they're not in toy colours.
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Post by legios on Oct 24, 2015 13:49:07 GMT
The Ramhorn almost gets away with turning the Brawl mode into an Combat Engineer vehicle, but could do with some more greebly bits other than the drill to really sell it. What it really needs is the turret facing the other way. Or a dozer blade on the front or something (yes, I know - remoulds cost money, no-one transforms their Transformers and Combiners are never separated once assembled so it'd have been a wasted effort anyways :-) ) Karl |
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Post by Toph on Oct 24, 2015 21:22:52 GMT
I don't like it as cicadacon because it reads something else entirely to me.
I'm not sure what though.
I like it on it's own better than windsweeper though.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 28, 2015 13:58:07 GMT
And the last figure is a re-use of... ...Silverbolt. Which is great, because that mold hasn't had enough re-uses alreahwho am I kidding? *sigh* |
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 28, 2015 14:13:45 GMT
It better be scattershot, at least the alt mode then doesnt look like the complete opposite of everything a lobster might possibly choose to be if it was a machine.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 28, 2015 14:14:58 GMT
I'm just really disappointed that it's not the Hot Spot-lobster that we saw a few posts back...
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 28, 2015 14:17:24 GMT
I just had a crazy thought. Are fp trying to make a lame technobot stand in team? We just need an orange repaint of groove and a red and white dragstrip.
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Post by Benn on Oct 28, 2015 16:28:02 GMT
And the last figure is a re-use of... ...Silverbolt. Which is great, because that mold hasn't had enough re-uses alreahwho am I kidding? *sigh* And that is the sound of my head hitting the desk. |
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