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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 18, 2016 18:56:12 GMT
It's including anything vaguely 'G1' as far as I know. Marvel, DW and IDW.
Glad it is getting a full run nationwide.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 18, 2016 19:01:16 GMT
I'm not sure how far forward it's going, but surely Wreckers (though I suppose that's not that recent any more) or early MTMTE or RID would have been a sensible addition. I assumed it wouldn't be including the IDW stuff? One of the four test volumes features IDW's Stormbringer. -Ralph |
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Post by blueshift on Nov 18, 2016 19:02:12 GMT
I assumed it wouldn't be including the IDW stuff? One of the four test volumes features IDW's Stormbringer. -Ralph Of course it did, why did I think that was Dreamwave?? God, that was so long ago! |
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 18, 2016 20:15:23 GMT
Stormbringer was part of the trial.
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Post by primenova on Nov 19, 2016 18:24:13 GMT
Got my 2 issues this morning & going to get that free gift seeing i've got my backing cards & WHSmith receipt
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Post by blueshift on Nov 19, 2016 18:53:53 GMT
One of the four test volumes features IDW's Stormbringer. Stormbringer was part of the trial. The second book was Stormbringer. I feel like you guys are trying to tell me something but I can't quite work it out?  |
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Post by Kingoji on Nov 19, 2016 18:55:42 GMT
Sorry, I think proboards screwed me there, your post was the last I saw until mine was added, then there was another page.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 19, 2016 18:59:31 GMT
Sorry, I think proboards screwed me there, your post was the last I saw until mine was added, then there was another page. Its, ok, I think everyone needs to line up and shame me for thinking Stormbringer was Dreamwave!!! |
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Post by primenova on Nov 19, 2016 19:18:31 GMT
Thunderwing never showed up in DW but I think you are getting them mixed up with Nightbeat, due to him being in the last month of DW & also in this volume. Just think Thunderwing - then you only have Marvel IDW to look at stories.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2016 20:52:53 GMT
Sorry, I think proboards screwed me there, your post was the last I saw until mine was added, then there was another page. Its, ok, I think everyone needs to line up and shame me for thinking Stormbringer was Dreamwave!!! As you wish. *gets in line* -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 19, 2016 21:03:34 GMT
would you like a Hotdog while you queue?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 19, 2016 21:35:55 GMT
My copies arrived today as well.
Enjoyed JP's approach to the colouring, and his choices behind it.
Looking forward to the full release in the new year.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2016 21:42:34 GMT
would you like a Hotdog while you queue? None of that kind of nonsense. -Ralph |
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 19, 2016 21:47:24 GMT
I think mine are with my neighbour but Im too lazy to go and get them.
Or its the 2000AD DVD from Amazon.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 19, 2016 21:56:15 GMT
Future Shock?
A good acquisition.
Andy
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 19, 2016 22:00:58 GMT
Yeah it was in the black friday sales so I thought why not.
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Post by primenova on Nov 20, 2016 7:57:16 GMT
Those people slagging of John Paul Bove colouring need to read the feature he does. re Springer. Using only yellow & blue - using the dots to make different shades but using only the techniques from the 80's. Place dots far apart does light green, blue dots together makes dark green.
But that doesn't explain why Nel was lazy & coloured everything purple
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 20, 2016 8:52:43 GMT
Those people slagging of John Paul Bove colouring need to read the feature he does. re Springer. Using only yellow & blue - using the dots to make different shades but using only the techniques from the 80's. Place dots far apart does light green, blue dots together makes dark green. But that doesn't explain why Nel was lazy & coloured everything purple Nel wasn't lazy and didn't colour everyone purple and you will see JO employing many of the same techniques. |
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Post by blueshift on Nov 20, 2016 10:58:00 GMT
Those people slagging of John Paul Bove colouring need to read the feature he does. re Springer. Using only yellow & blue - using the dots to make different shades but using only the techniques from the 80's. Place dots far apart does light green, blue dots together makes dark green. But that doesn't explain why Nel was lazy & coloured everything purple Nel wasn't lazy and didn't colour everyone purple and you will see JO employing many of the same techniques. Colouring is a lot harder than people give it credit for. But let's be fair. There's no excuse for Scorponok's red nose. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 20, 2016 11:19:47 GMT
Nel wasn't lazy and didn't colour everyone purple and you will see JO employing many of the same techniques. Colouring is a lot harder than people give it credit for. But let's be fair. There's no excuse for Scorponok's red nose. We have never seen any of his colour guides, so we have no idea as to which errors are his and which are down to the separators and printers. Andy |
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Post by inflatabledalek on Nov 21, 2016 15:20:07 GMT
If he was genuinely using the same technique the contemporary British comics were using then he flat out failed to use them properly as the colouring doesn't look like the UK stuff at all. Fall and Rise in the same book looks considerably better.
It does look a lot like the normal American colouring, though not as seen in these books as they're using the recoloured versions. It's all a bit odd.
It's not a destructive game ruiner (and the stuff here does look better in colour because that's what the artists intended. Wildman's sparse backgrounds in particular have a new lease of life), but as an attempt to recreate an era it falls flat.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 21, 2016 15:30:32 GMT
JP actually explains in his commentary in the back of the book he is using two distinct approaches and that the stuff that ties into the US books, he has coloured to look like the US books.
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Post by inflatabledalek on Nov 21, 2016 15:55:05 GMT
Aye just read that now. Though if there's an obvious difference between how the tied to the US stuff Race With... and the tied to the UK stuff Survivors is handled my none technical eye can't spot it.
It's relatively minor stuff of course (though part of the point of a trial isn't just to judge sales but to get feedback on what people think does and doesn't work), considering the big appeal for me was a "Proper" Marvel reprint that had everything in the right order the misplacing of Cold Comfort... (complete with an opening "Previously On..." that makes it sound as if all that follows is set after Time Wars!) is more annoying despite being even more minor.
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 21, 2016 16:04:31 GMT
The presence of Cold Comfort was confusing. Is there any good reason for it being there? I ask because I realised I dont think I have ever read it so decided to save it till I do a full reread one day. So I really dont know if it makes sense or not.
Even if theres a good reason I hope for the full run it ends up in its correct place.
The colouring honestly makes no sense. From a technical point its interesting to compare, but I'd rather all colouring as it would have been done by Marvel UK.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 21, 2016 17:55:06 GMT
I feel personally that colouring the UK strips in the US style is a mis-step. I understand the reasoning but still a head scratcher!
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 21, 2016 18:26:28 GMT
From a technical perspective it is cleverly done but I think it's a mistake to transpose the US terms technique onto the UK material (no matter the narrative connection - which Survivors lacks) given it was only a product of printing methods of the time (which the UK comic was not limited to).
Also a lot of the backgrounds are not just filled in but left eh.. blank? There's a part of me that would have have preferred hem just to be left as b&w.
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Post by primenova on Nov 21, 2016 20:09:46 GMT
#198 acts to bring Inferno & co into the group for Timewars & that last panel so doesn't make much sense here, maybe in because we would have it for xmas 2016 - those who got the books anyway. But I do hope they then redo the other with showing all UK covers like they did in these ones. I am going to check #75 because i'm going to try & praise Nel for colouring & also check what other titles he was working on at the same time. But remember Marvel US editors all took it that Transformers was cancelled after Optimus was killed off, they didn't know it was still running from #25-80 (we've seen that mentioned a few times over the years). Headmasters came out mid 1987 - but was there a feature in Marvel Age like there was for the Movie comic? www.comicbookdb.com/creator_chron.php?ID=384Nel started working for Marvel US back in 1977 & only 2 comics a month listed. Then he had a long run on Spiderman titles doing 2 a month. Then while doing Transformers #32+ he was doing most of the New universe comics. Then dec 89 he was working on 11 comics that came out that month. Which he kept at til 92 when got back down to 4 comics a month. |
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Post by primenova on Nov 22, 2016 19:55:35 GMT
Here's a question can anyone give a real reason for it. Soundwave being purple. We have been told it is because they can't colour him blue - while in the same panel Soundwave's gun is blue & Optimus Prime is blue
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 22, 2016 20:52:03 GMT
He is purple because he is purple.
Except in reprints where his colour is stupidly 'corrected'.
-Ralph
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 22, 2016 21:41:29 GMT
blue is black in those comics
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